Smoking While Preggers

misshestermoffitt

New Member
Miss Hester I don't believe you're the OP. I saw no where where the OP said 4-5 hits, she asked if smoking while pregnant was bad... I was simply stating that smoking a lot is harmful and I think most everyone agrees, I also said that smoking minute amounts, as in your "4-5 hits a day" is perfectly fine and should have no abnormal effect on the baby. And face it, not every mother is going to be an angel and only take 4-5 hits... they will most likely be joints or nice big bong rips so might as well state the facts. I look at the big picture sweetheart, that's why I grow most of my own fruits and vegetables... but we're getting off topic there so save it for another time. Oh, and please... tell me where I ragged about weed, I don't think I've said anything negative about weed in good God maybe 9-10 years. I've only stated the smoke generated by smoking weed is unhealthy in large amounts for a fetus... you call that ragging on weed? :lol::roll:

Here you state that you've only said that smoking a lot will be harmful. In the other statement you say that smoking anything will be harmful.

Can you at least try to figure out your own argument before presenting it to the rest of us? :twisted:


Not to mention, my first child was PREMATURE DUE TO THE EXCESSIVE VOMITING. He has to be in the neo-natal unit for 2 1/2 weeks. I really wasn't going to take that risk the second time. Should I have stayed clean and sacrificed her? My son didn't breathe for the FIRST 10 MINUTES OF HIS LIFE. Should I have caused my daughter to experience that too?

She was full term and perfectly healthy, he was way too early and had lots of problems at birth including a brain hemmorrage, yellow jaundice and no sucking reflex (you know how a baby sucks on a bottle, he couldn't do that). He also had apnea and would stop breathing.

Let me propose this, if you had a choice, stay clean and have a really premature baby with lots of problems or smoke a little bit and have a healthy baby, what would your choice be.

I think you are just pissed because my kids are living proof that your argument is weak. :hump:
 

Florida Girl

Well-Known Member
Not to mention, my first child was PREMATURE DUE TO THE EXCESSIVE VOMITING. He has to be in the neo-natal unit for 2 1/2 weeks. I really wasn't going to take that risk the second time. Should I have stayed clean and sacrificed her? My son didn't breathe for the FIRST 10 MINUTES OF HIS LIFE. Should I have caused my daughter to experience that too?
I went back and read your first post where you discussed the terrible time you had with your first pregnancy. You mentioned you gave up cigarettes when you learned you were pregnant. I'm curious if the withdrawal from the nicotine helped contribute to your sickness. Tobacco is wickedly addicting so it wouldn't surprise me.

Either way... I'm surprised your doctor didn't have you admitted into the hospital as hyperemesis gravidarum (extreme vomitting) can lead to severe dehydration which is bad for both mom and fetus. Of course you had your children over 20 years ago.... perhaps they are just more proactive in treating this today.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
I didn't smoke more than 10 cigarettes a day, so it was easy to quit them both times. Plus the smell was one of a million vomit triggers. If someone was smoking 10 feet from me, I'd barf.

I really don't think quitting cigs would cause that kind of sickness.

My doctor was an old country doctor, who delivered me when I was born. I just don't think he cared how much vomiting I did, they gave me pills, they gave me shots, that was all they could do. They wouldn't do anything else. That's why the second time around, we did the pills, we did the shots, they gave up, I didn't. I did what I needed to do.

I don't think any of these men can even imagine how painful it is to puke when there is a nearly full term baby inside you. That baby squashes your bladder, so as you puke, you piss yourself as well. Fun, fun, especially when in public. Hell there toward the end of the second one, I didn't leave the house except for Dr visits.

This will sound really gross, but my throat would get so sore from the vomiting. I used to put milk in the freezer so it would get really cold, then I drink it, because when I puked it back up it would still be really cold and it would sooth my throat. Now that is a desperate act.
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
Here you state that you've only said that smoking a lot will be harmful. In the other statement you say that smoking anything will be harmful.

I think you are just pissed because my kids are living proof that your argument is weak. :hump:
First off, I stated that smoking anything while pregnant is stupid... and it is, you cannot challenge that. Also, I am Buddhist... I do not get "pissed" nor upset, nor anything that causes any mental suffering. Your kids, you have 2 of them... that prove absolutely nothing as I have a friend who's mom smoked cigs during her pregnancy, nothing major is wrong with him... but we know that horrible shit happens to those that smoke cigs while pregnant, so why didn't anything happen to him?

I think you're just pissed because you cannot refute the truth, smoking while pregnant is unhealthy. :hump: So, wanna smoke a joint now? I got some Afghan Kush that'll put you on Cloud X :lol:
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
I'll take a bong of that please, never was a joint smoker, plus I just quit cigs (again) 2 months ago and I'm trying to not smoke anything cigarette like.

I'm jealous of your Kush, all I have is commercial crap, blah.
 

Stoney McFried

Well-Known Member
Hey, I'm not anti drug.Don't tell me what I'm trying to sound like.Ritalin and adderell are amphetamines, legally prescribed to kids.
Kids should not be given EITHER. You want to sound like some anti-drug person but you advocate the same type of medicating the drug companies want. The only dif is what KIND of drug you prefer. I'm sure if it was legal and they could make billions drug companies would prescribe weed to kids. Hell, why not some crank or wine coolers? Yeah that's it....let's teach our kids at an early age that the best way to deal with life's problems is to get high.
 

Stoney McFried

Well-Known Member
Iwas in back labor for 25 hours with my first one. They wouldnt give me shit.I was happy to receive the epidural for the second.Just sayin'.
OK Garry, so your wife didn't have the natural child birth, what drugs was she using?

I told you watch "the business of being born" it's all in there. It is a documentary. It's available on Netfix. They go on and on about how bad an epidural is for the fetus.
 

Stoney McFried

Well-Known Member
You know, fdd, I love you.You're awesome.You are so clearly NOT a knuckle dragger.And I'm not being sarcastic, or kissing your ass.Everything you have said here, I agree with.Your wife is damn lucky.
we're never going to win with beliefs like these. ten steps backwards.

all the sudden pot is a harmful drug. blasphemy.
 

gogrow'sgirl

Active Member
couldn't be much worse than any of these ....






Pregnancy and Medicines


Prescription Medicines

The FDA chooses a medicine's letter category based on what is known about the medicine when used in pregnant women and animals.
Definition of Medicine Catogories Pregnancy Category Definition Examples of Drugs A In human studies, pregnant women used the medicine and their babies did not have any problems related to using the medicine.


  • Folic acid
  • Levothyroxine (thyroid hormone medicine)
B In humans, there are no good studies. But in animal studies, pregnant animals received the medicine, and the babies did not show any problems related to the medicine.

Or

In animal studies, pregnant animals received the medicine, and some babies had problems. But in human studies, pregnant women used the medicine and their babies did not have any problems related to using the medicine.


  • Some antibiotics like amoxicillin.
  • Zofran® (ondansetron) for nausea
  • Glucophage® (metformin) for diabetes
  • Some insulins used to treat diabetes such as regular and NPH insulin.
C In humans, there are no good studies. In animals, pregnant animals treated with the medicine had some babies with problems. However, sometimes the medicine may still help the human mothers and babies more than it might harm.

Or

No animal studies have been done, and there are no good studies in pregnant women.


  • Diflucan® (fluconazole) for yeast infections
  • Ventolin® (albuterol) for asthma
  • Zoloft® (sertraline) and Prozac® (fluoxetine) for depression
D Studies in humans and other reports show that when pregnant women use the medicine, some babies are born with problems related to the medicine. However, in some serious situations, the medicine may still help the mother and the baby more than it might harm.


  • Paxil® (paroxetine) for depression
  • Lithium for bipolar disorder
  • Dilantin® (phenytoin) for epileptic seizures
  • Some cancer chemotherapy
X Studies or reports in humans or animals show that mothers using the medicine during pregnancy may have babies with problems related to the medicine. There are no situations where the medicine can help the mother or baby enough to make the risk of problems worth it. These medicines should never be used by pregnant women.


  • Accutane® (isotretinoin) for cystic acne
  • Thalomid® (thalidomide) for a type of skin disease
I have to say you have a good point here... I'm currently pregnant and suffereing from nausea. My Dr. perscribed me to promethazine.

Promethazine Trade Name Phenerzine Manufacturer Risk Category C
  • Studies on animals show adverse effect and toxicity on fetus.
  • No adequate and well controlled studies done on pregnant women.
  • Drugs should be given only if the potential benefit outweighs the potential risk to the fetus.


Place (not click) your mouse cursor over the bold words in the text below to receive description Indication

  • Anti-histamine, anti-emetic, phenothiazine
Fetal Risk

  • Crosses human placenta.
  • No adequate human data but suggested possible association with cardiovascular defects in 1st trimester exposure.
  • reported to cause neonatal respiratory depression and neonatal platelet dysfunction when used in labor.
Promethazine often causes sedation and tiredness. In children less than two it can depress respiration and lead to death and, therefore, should not be used in children less than two years old. Dizziness may also occur. Ironically, promethazine sometimes stimulates patients, particularly children. Such stimulation may be manifest by restlessness, inability to sleep, heart palpitations or even seizures. Neurologic reactions called extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS) may occur. EPS are categorized as dystonic reactions (alterations in muscle tone), sharp, involuntary muscle movements (often limited to one muscle or muscle group), akathisia (subjective restlessness), and parkinsonism. Parkinsonian symptoms are more common in older persons whereas children more often develop the involuntary muscle movements reactions. Dystonic reactions are most commonly seen during the first week of treatment. Akathisia and parkinsonian symptoms usually develop days to weeks after starting therapy.
A complex called neuroleptic malignant syndrome (NMS) can occur in patients receiving phenothiazines. NMS consists of high body temperature, severe EPS, changes in consciousness and mental status, and increased heart rate with low or high blood pressure. NMS occurs more frequently in young men and in persons who are dehydrated.
Anticholinergic side effects of promethazine include blurred vision, dry mouth, dilated pupils, nausea, urinary retention (inability to urinate), impotence, and constipation.
Rarely, blood cell disorders can occur; low white cell counts can lead to severe infections.
Phenothiazines such as promethazine can cause skin hyperpigmentation (darkening) but usually only after prolonged use. The effect is usually restricted to areas of the body exposed to sunlight. Thus, people who need long-term promethazine should either keep out of the sun or use effective sunscreens.
Phenothiazines can cause blurred vision, difficulty with nighttime vision, or changes in color vision.
Liver damage has been reported rarely with the administration of phenothiazines. Jaundice is possible. Jaundice may also occur in newborns of mothers who received phenothiazines during pregnancy.
Phenothiazines such as promethazine block dopamine receptors. This effect can lead to increases in blood levels of prolactin, a hormone involved in lactation (formation of breast milk). As a result, phenothiazines can cause the breast to produce fluid ("milk") even when the woman is not pregnant. Additionally, phenothiazines can cause missed menstrual periods, breast enlargement or tenderness, loss of sexual drive, impotence, inability to ejaculate, and priapism. Weight gain also may occur.

... there's to may side affect for both mom and baby. I smoked with my first child and he's conpletely fine. In fact I've been told he's highly intellegent for being under 2.
 

gogrow'sgirl

Active Member
Goblow, we are talking about babies in the womb. That's my opinion.
Exactly... taking a hit or two to settle the nausea so the mom can eat and feed the unborn baby constitutes as a plyable reason.

Weather a mom to be chooses medication or canabis is her bias... either way the uteras is going to filter is out and restrict oxygen.
 

Wordz

Well-Known Member
Exactly... taking a hit or two to settle the nausea so the mom can eat and feed the unborn baby constitutes as a plyable reason.

Weather a mom to be chooses medication or canabis is her bias... either way the uteras is going to filter is out and restrict oxygen.
that guy thinks your kid should be taken away if you smoke while preggers
 

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
Well, I've actually been waiting to hear something along those lines, and have been staying away from this thread because these are my kids we're talking about here. I "did everything right" with my first son, but he has problems. I almost did everything right with my second son, and he has problems.

Some people are extremely black & white in their views. This one is clearly right up there with abortion as far as how hot some get about it.
 

Florida Girl

Well-Known Member
i see A LOT of POSITIVE "pot use while pregnant" stories. anybody got any BAD ones? i didn't think so. :)
There may be a lot of posts on this thread but there are only a handful of people actually posting. I'd hardly call it A LOT of POSITIVE stories.... more like a few who claim to have had no ill effects on their children from it.

We could EASILY come up with just as many "I smoked cigarettes while pregnant and my baby is just fine" stories too..... doesn't mean I'd advocate smoking cigarettes.

i know someone who smoked pot while pregnant and their baby was so fucked up ..........

None of my friends or family members smoked weed during pregnancy so I personally don't know anyone where I can give example (either positive or negative). HOWEVER.... I work with healthcare clients every day and do a lot of report programming against their databases. There are TONS of kids in Neonatal case management and most all of them have some sort of drug use on their medical assessment. Some alcohol, some cocaine, some marijauna, some heroin.... some a combination of some sort.

There are most certainly cases where the only drug indicated on the assessment is marijuana. Does that mean it's true and the moms didn't lie about other drug use??? Who knows? How much do they smoke? some report a lot .... some report very little.... lies??? who knows. That is what is reported and the problems for the babies range from mild to catestrophic.

The point is that just because here on a pot forum we see a couple of stories where nothing went wrong does NOT negate the fact that there are MANY cases of babies out there affected by moms who report using marijuana during pregnancy.

No, I certainly don't take that as proof positive that marijuana is a problem.... but again.... it leaves the door open for questioning it.... and my point is that it is better to error on the side of caution when it comes to a baby.

I think I'm done here on this thread..... you are all convinced mj is proof positive not harmful.... and in fact likely good for the fetus. There is nothing more I can say. I work with healthcare professionals every day that would tell you you are misinformed.... the proof isn't in this forum.... it's in the NIC-U.

Whatever ..... carry on.
:peace:
 

gogrow

confused
There may be a lot of posts on this thread but there are only a handful of people actually posting. I'd hardly call it A LOT of POSITIVE stories.... more like a few who claim to have had no ill effects on their children from it.

We could EASILY come up with just as many "I smoked cigarettes while pregnant and my baby is just fine" stories too..... doesn't mean I'd advocate smoking cigarettes.



None of my friends or family members smoked weed during pregnancy so I personally don't know anyone where I can give example (either positive or negative). HOWEVER.... I work with healthcare clients every day and do a lot of report programming against their databases. There are TONS of kids in Neonatal case management and most all of them have some sort of drug use on their medical assessment. Some alcohol, some cocaine, some marijauna, some heroin.... some a combination of some sort.

There are most certainly cases where the only drug indicated on the assessment is marijuana. Does that mean it's true and the moms didn't lie about other drug use??? Who knows? How much do they smoke? some report a lot .... some report very little.... lies??? who knows. That is what is reported and the problems for the babies range from mild to catestrophic.

The point is that just because here on a pot forum we see a couple of stories where nothing went wrong does NOT negate the fact that there are MANY cases of babies out there affected by moms who report using marijuana during pregnancy.

No, I certainly don't take that as proof positive that marijuana is a problem.... but again.... it leaves the door open for questioning it.... and my point is that it is better to error on the side of caution when it comes to a baby.

I think I'm done here on this thread..... you are all convinced mj is proof positive not harmful.... and in fact likely good for the fetus. There is nothing more I can say. I work with healthcare professionals every day that would tell you you are misinformed.... the proof isn't in this forum.... it's in the NIC-U.

Whatever ..... carry on. :peace:


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