Should the US shed blood for Ukraine

Should the USA along with NATO defend Ukraine with troops.

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 40.4%
  • No

    Votes: 59 59.6%

  • Total voters
    99

Lucky Luke

Well-Known Member
If the E.U. and NATO break all protocol and adopt Ukraine wouldn't that be an interesting Chess Move?

Talk about "Lightening Attack" It would be a political shock-wave if "the powers of public and private" which are converging on Putin Worldwide, goes ahead full steam and admits Ukraine as both E.U. Member and NATO member in just 7 more days.
The worst nightmare Putin could want is something smarter, faster and more long lasting than his egotistical ass.
Its not looking unlikely either.
 

Friendly_Grower

Well-Known Member
Perhaps Putin is a real Dumb Ass.
Now that could be a Slur or it could be a real proposition.
Consider it a proposition.

If the human Vladimir Putin is reaching beyond the peak of his existence; that his better days are his younger days, could he like Hitler be trying to exceed his ability because his power is greater than he?
 

djumbir

Well-Known Member
Perhaps Putin is a real Dumb Ass.
Now that could be a Slur or it could be a real proposition.
Consider it a proposition.

If the human Vladimir Putin is reaching beyond the peak of his existence; that his better days are his younger days, could he like Hitler be trying to exceed his ability because his power is greater than he?
Not quite, but he does know that there is less and less time to reinforce Russia's position in the region, sooner he makes the moves the better. Putin is not an idiot, he's well aware that hard times are coming for Russia and that it's power will only decrease. Besides, there is negative population growth in the country which only makes things worse. The country is doomed, fall is inevitable.
 
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djumbir

Well-Known Member
I just found out that RT and Sputnik have been banned on YouTube in Europe. Incredible. They've been a valuable source to me, no matter how wrong their coverage is. This media blackout reminds me of very bad times I've had in the 90'. Is this the free world? We're not allowed even to see what the media broadcasts on the other side? West is becoming ever so grim with all the media censorship and cancel culture. It is becoming worse than the totalitarian regimes of the east. Is one-mindedness really going to help us get the whole picture? Dark days are coming.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
I just found out that RT and Sputnik have been banned on YouTube in Europe. Incredible. They've been a valuable source to me, no matter how wrong their coverage is. This media blackout reminds me of very bad times I've had in the 90'. Is this the free world? We're not allowed even to see what the media broadcasts on the other side? West is becoming ever so grim with all the media censorship and cancel culture. It is becoming worse than the totalitarian regimes of the east. Is one-mindedness really going to help us get the whole picture? Dark days are coming.
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Friendly_Grower

Well-Known Member
I just found out that RT and Sputnik have been banned on YouTube in Europe. Incredible. They've been a valuable source to me, no matter how wrong their coverage is. This media blackout reminds me of very bad times I've had in the 90'. Is this the free world? We're not allowed even to see what the media broadcasts on the other side? West is becoming ever so grim with all the media censorship and cancel culture. It is becoming worse than the totalitarian regimes of the east. Is one-mindedness really going to help us get the whole picture? Dark days are coming.
It's a Small World after all for Putin these days.
Even neutral Sweden is now not neutral on Putin.

It looks to me there are all kinds of War.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
I just found out that RT and Sputnik have been banned on YouTube in Europe. Incredible. They've been a valuable source to me, no matter how wrong their coverage is. This media blackout reminds me of very bad times I've had in the 90'. Is this the free world? We're not allowed even to see what the media broadcasts on the other side? West is becoming ever so grim with all the media censorship and cancel culture. It is becoming worse than the totalitarian regimes of the east. Is one-mindedness really going to help us get the whole picture? Dark days are coming.
well, see, the other side makes broadcasts just to delude the simple minded, and try to sow dissension amongst the enemies of their state...they are an active propaganda tool, and are obviously such...leaving them running is pretty much the same as leaving a live bomb on the sidewalk, so you can observe how it explodes...
 

djumbir

Well-Known Member
well, see, the other side makes broadcasts just to delude the simple minded, and try to sow dissension amongst the enemies of their state...they are an active propaganda tool, and are obviously such...leaving them running is pretty much the same as leaving a live bomb on the sidewalk, so you can observe how it explodes...
I agree with you, but that's up to us to decide. Give me all the info and let me chew on it. And I tend not to trust anyone, I'm quite wary of media in general. So when one side wants to stop me from seeing another, that heats up my conspiracy theories
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
I agree with you, but that's up to us to decide. Give me all the info and let me chew on it. And I tend not to trust anyone, I'm quite wary of media in general. So when one side wants to stop me from seeing another, that heats up my conspiracy theories
So go somewhere else to watch them. Bitching about Putin's state paid propaganda not being pushed on youtube as some kind of 'censorship' and not just common fucking sense is just ridiculous.

Unfortunately nobody is stopping Putin from ordering his trolls to produce the lies he wants pushed, but that doesn't mean others have to be forced to carry it.

And 'the media' troll is bullshit if you actually believe it and are not a paid propaganda troll yourself.
 

Bagginski

Well-Known Member
Apparently, around the same time Pooti pre-recorded all his ‘speeches’ re: invading Ukraine, they put this in the hopper, to release when Pooti “won” - the fuck-you reveal of their intentions to upend the world, while all their lies about Nazis, Ukrainian ‘brothers’, “peacekeeping”, et al, still ring in the ears. Hope the GOP chokes to death on it: what follows is an English translation of the Russian original, as released - and almost immediately deleted - by one of Pooti’s pet rags….


Pooti pets: please keep your tears and wankings to yourselves, ‘k?
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Apparently, around the same time Pooti pre-recorded all his ‘speeches’ re: invading Ukraine, they put this in the hopper, to release when Pooti “won” - the fuck-you reveal of their intentions to upend the world, while all their lies about Nazis, Ukrainian ‘brothers’, “peacekeeping”, et al, still ring in the ears. Hope the GOP chokes to death on it: what follows is an English translation of the Russian original, as released - and almost immediately deleted - by one of Pooti’s pet rags….


Pooti pets: please keep your tears and wankings to yourselves, ‘k?
 

Budzbuddha

Well-Known Member
Poland has allowed Ukrainian pilots to pick up about 70 Mig-29 fighter jets to use in battle.

Wondering why there isn’t a band of international pilots ( Ringers ) that could be at helm of soviet era jets to blast the russian convoy into submission. Arm them up with appropriate ordnance and stop them.

Small weapon fire and guerrilla tactics have been quite effective so far with anti tank weaponry ( stinger / javelin and TOW ) Also learned that patriot missile systems are to be deployed to Slovakia.
 

Friendly_Grower

Well-Known Member
The Ruble is worth a fraction of a USA Penny now.
AND this is just a few days into the sanctions.
Russian Stock Market is still closed.

Listen closely and you will hear Putin pooping his pants because he didn't factor this level of sanctions.

Can you imagine Putin realizing that even if he takes Ukraine he loses.
 
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