seems like alot of souviener's are getting found by custum's?!

lurchdaddy87

Active Member
Had my last order taken twice in the past 3 weekz from the tude. Shits ridiculous, any sites with lesser problems??? Gettin kinda pissed as prime time is passin!
 

bwest

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You know those little cheap dollar store pin ball games that are like 1 inch by inch and you roll the little bb's into the holes.....yeah, shit like that is cheap and could be gotten away with for a time period, and then you move on. Some of these companies have been using the same "stealth" procedures for years, and it's not about stealth at all. It's about a 50 cent wallet that you pay 10 bucks for thinking it's going to get you your beans, that they buy by the thousands and pay pennies for compared to what the consumer pays.

It is most definitely a numbers game, it's called business.

"A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one"
It has nothing to do with the stealth or the wallet. I'm not paying the extra money for a wallet. I'm paying extra for the guarantee. Wallet goes in the trash. So, you are right, it is a numbers game. But not for them, for me. If you notice there is a post where the person had his order taken, then they reshipped, and it was got again. Hopefully third time is a charm for them. That is why we pay ten dollars for a ten cent wallet. Because we don't care about the wallet, we want our seeds. Don't care if they hide them or not. If seized, they reship. So, I guess, the wallet actually does get you your beans.
 

spandy

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I guess I didn't realize a guarantee came with it as well. I thought it was just promoted as a stealthier way of shipping the beans and that alone seemed foolish to pay for.

My bad.
 

bluntmassa1

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Had my last order taken twice in the past 3 weekz from the tude. Shits ridiculous, any sites with lesser problems??? Gettin kinda pissed as prime time is passin!
I never had a problem or even heard of someone get their seed taken from the mns auction they got some pretty good stealth going on and they guarantee but you have to sign and its only MNS or CBD crew seeds. But only other place I used recently was Attitude and I got it it was on the 4/20 promo.
 

lurchdaddy87

Active Member
I used the guarantee shipping method and twice so far got poped, on the same order! Now every time i email (through several email accounts) them it won't go through, keep getting a mailer daemon. . What's with that?
 

gudkarma

New Member
you wanna solve the problem.

everyone stop buying seeds.
stop completely.

force these greedy bean peddling companies (taking a 50/50 split per pack) to change their service to the benefit of the customer.

while im dying for a pack of purple mayhem from gooey breeder fuck giving the 'tude a single penny more.

i know the deal e$ko made with those fags at the seed depot.
i know the deal he made with mr. fagnetic at cannazon.
i know the (shit) deal he made with sannie
.
i know the actual price per fem & reg seed e$ko charges these middlemen.

i know everything.

& its all the same.

50/50 split.
breeders get paid quarterly.
obvious mark up on shipping services.
and (often) making you buy shwag to get those beans.
 

ace720

Active Member
Got my seeds from the tude last night. I'm in the Midwest and they came through Chicago All I got say is crushproof tin , got to love to.
 

ShazMo09

Active Member
I reckon alot of the time you only hear about the negative situations. Only sometimes people come on to post about them getting through but basically ALL the time people come to post about them not getting through!
 

BeastGrow

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i had great service from attitude. didn't do guarantee or stealth shipping. paid 32 bucks for 4 seeds... arrived 8 days after ordering. went through chicago customs.
 

Jogro

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jogro I know for a fact I seen a whole simi trailer load of nike shoe get dumped into a land fill because someone didn`t pay the import tax. the reason they hold the items is for whom ever to have a chance to dispute the agents claim it shouldn`t be here for what ever reason. if it were evidence it would have to be a law broken and charges being filed. read the customs website.
Well, ICE *is* tasked with narcotics enforcement, and cannabis ceeds are considered a controlled substance under Federal law. Importation of same has to be illegal.

In addition, customs also seizes counterfeit items; that's part of their job.

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not trying to be a dick here jogro, but you sound a bit naive about how the u.s. government works.. if there's a dollar to be made, you can bet your sweet ass they'll have their greedy lil hands in it.. and what better way to make money than by stealing drugs and reselling them..
Oh, they have a much better method than that!

Again, I'm not saying there aren't individual bad gov't employees who steal drugs; of course there are. But there is simply no need for "the government" to actually get involved in stealing then selling drugs, when it can LEGALLY seize and KEEP all cash and property from those who do sell the drugs, including funds from bank accounts.

Stealing drugs lands people in jail (even law enforcement, if caught). Stealing the profits from drug sales?. . .that brings in pure cash, plus gets people medals and promotions! Even customs is involved in this "racket". They have their very own asset forfeiture branch:

http://www.ice.gov/asset-forfeiture/

Not incidentally, there is no such thing as "the" government. There is Federal gov't, State gov't, local gov't, etc. Not only do these different levels of gov't often not get alone, in many cases, even different agencies within the same level of gov't dislike don't cooperate.

and you've never heard of iran contra? where do you think the drugs that we were trading for arms came from? i'll bet you any amount of money that they weren't bought, that's for sure..
For obvious reasons, lots of crazy claims get made about the CIA and covert USA activity. What happened in Central America 30 years ago is really getting off topic, but I've never seen any credible evidence or even claims that "we" traded drugs for arms. It didn't happen.

We did smuggle arms to the Contras. Now, not only were many of the smugglers involved in drug trafficking, the Contras were also involved in the drug trade to raise money. So I think there is good evidence that the CIA has been "guilty" of developing working relationships with groups and individuals it had to know were actively involved in the illegal drug trade, and effectively looking the other way about it. That's bad, but its quite a different thing than directly being involved with buying or selling actual drugs, let alone directly importing them into the USA.

Some of the ones involved in Iran-Contra wanted to divert counternarcotics funds (what they called "drug money") for use in purchasing weapons for the Contras; again somewhat of a different thing than actually selling drugs.

For real not to mention the CIA selling coke when crack was first coming out their are a lot of kingpins who claim they got it from the CIA
Again, lots of people make "out there" claims about the CIA. Can you name one of these kingpins making such an accusation that you believe is credible?

Personally, I consider allegations that the CIA was directly responsible for the crack cocaine "epidemic" of the 1980s as roughly equivalent to allegations about CIA mind control and secret crashed extraterrestrial spacecraft. They're good stories for conspiracy buffs, but I don't think they really hold up to close scrutiny.
 

HGK420

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dont dismiss it so quickly there jorgo, like you say their are many different levels of government and in each level there are different individuals with different ideas in mind. its not hard to think that a small group with strong influence could manipulate the system for their benefit (I.e. the prison system)

Its as simple as the few in the minority of actually wealth/control wanting to keep it a very very small minority. (probably not a single american citizen, at least probably only a handful if their is any) people who have millions in the bank aren't rich. doctors aren't rich. movie stars aren't rich. anyone who wants to be "rich" doesn't even get it

The ancient phoenecians understood it the best. create a trap and when everyone has fallen in the trap (I.e. Glamor, addiction, thuggishness, rock and roll rebel, country boy soldier, you name it their are hundreds of thousands of "traps" at this point) they all belong to you. being the king of the nation only works until the mass gets bored. but controlling a world that thinks they are in control of itself well thats magical control. and true power. the phoenecians didn't have a home state, no way for an enemy to come make war. they were owed by almost all of the known and unknown world in one way or another so technically the whole world was their empire.

99.99% of people who think they have any sort of power at all are completely delusional and probably only control some other shitheads or a bunch of paper or some numbers in a computer. BUT that .01% actually are out to CONTROL the world now they don't want the money from the drug sales THEY WANT PEOPLE ADDICTED TO DRUGS they don't want a certain side of a little war in south america or the middle east THEY WANT THE WORLD TO FIGHT FOREVER. just because the US is able to bully a lions share of the pie at the moment we are far from in control. USA is nothing more then a psy weapon against the rest of the world. look how quick greed and ignorance spread around the globe once america made it the cool thing to do. IF EVERYONE WANTS THE ONE GIVING IS IN CONTROL OF IT ALL and the ones who WANT, won't turn on the one giving them what they want~

Crack was just another piece of the puzzle. addiction has been around for a long time. why do you think they found Cocaine in the mummies, this is just a guess but my guess is they were getting coke from someone who was actually in control. ya sure pharo heres some coke for all that nubian gold. then take the gold somewhere else and WIN. they did this with copper during the bronze age with michigan and europe. its been done over and over and over again. get people addicted then feed them their addicted needs as you please. true control

whether it be oil, drugs, class, sex, cars, toughness, pride, killing, whatever we are addicted to we are addicted to something that someone else feeds thats the control that they were putting in place with crack and heroin. not more money. money is just another drug they put out their for us all to get addicted to.
 

ace720

Active Member
Some of you guys are crazy. LOL
just put another order in OG RASKAL WIFI and got 5 free ALIEN SS :)
lets see if this come through
 

raiderman

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I been using bcseedking mail in orders,fast and 15 or more orders made previous got them all...hate to see this issue come up.
 

ace720

Active Member
I been using bcseedking mail in orders,fast and 15 or more orders made previous got them all...hate to see this issue come up.
Hey I just checked out that BC place and they got some interesting stuff over there, looks good
you order to US ?
 

raiderman

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deep south U.S...I have journals here of using their strains purps ,godbud,purple kush,nother lights,big bud.all seeds always germ and 60% or better girls .get 5 free beans of same strain with order ,fems and regs..wanting to do their nyc diesel and hashplant...jus ordered 25 blueberry regs ,so 30 beans 85.00 + 5.00 shipping cash,,hope no problems coming in.
 

Afroman25

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I'll never do business with Attitude again. My first order with them was really small so I didn't pay for stealth shipping. My order never arrived it stills shows processed through ISC Chicago this was over a month ago. I never received my souvenirs or a letter saying they were confiscated. I email attitude and they tell me I didn't pay for stealth shipping so basically I'm screwed. I've placed 3 orders with Herbie's since then that have arrived within 8 days and no extra charge for stealth shipping and they have better freebies. Some have have success with attitude, but there a better seed companies who don't charge for stealth shipping
 
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