seedlings with wrinkled leafs (photo)

Lifer99 said:

was your wilting coming from heat or nutrient imbalances or both? Im dealing with the same thing outside. Its been doing it the whole summer so im assuming its the heat because its in the 90s and humid as shit here every day. I dont really have alot of options besides going indoors or waiting until summer is over. I figured I would give it a shot to see if it was even possible. I have brought them back from the dead a time or two now.

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Tetrahedral said:

Soil holds a vast resovoirs of buffers that keep its pH within the right range, adding amounts of pH up or down to nutrients is not going to make any difference in the soil. Don't do it.

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Skyhound said:

Updating to awnser a few questions

Its day 11 since i put the seed with root on the pot, i always put a bit like 150 ml of water on the pot for the seed .

Since then i only used 3 products from biobizz to mix my water as advised by them , no fertilizer because they advise to start fertilizing later , around beggining of 3rd week

This were the products :

Root·Juice - Biobizz

www.biobizz.com

Acti·Vera - Biobizz

www.biobizz.com

Bio·Heaven - Biobizz

www.biobizz.com

Besides this the only thing i can think off is after day 3 i started with a fan with a constant gentle breeze on them 24 hours, could this do some damage? i now have the fan in a cycle off 15 minutes and on 15 minutes .

Humidity is on low records 29% today .


And there is a update picture from the plant , new leafs seems a bit better :

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EXCEPT ONE THIS ONE OUT OF 4 QUICK QUESTION , ONE OF THE PLANTS SEEMS TO HAVE A MUTATION FORM THAT EVEN CUTED ITSELF OR SOMETHING MADE IT , ITS ONLY ON THIS PLANT LOOK :



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what could have caused this cut ?

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Dapper_Dillinger said:

I haven't even used the ph meter that I bought before I knew better. My tap water is at 8.5 after sitting out 24 hours with a air stone I've given my plant this for the last 4/5 weeks during seedlings used drinking water but I also used 1/2tsp of molasses in a gallon one time... but I continue to read how every one uses the ph down and wonder if I'm losing out or causing damage

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WeedMan2020 said:

Mine started like that and I ignored it, then this happened:
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Came here and found a few good guys that helped me out with troubleshooting what the reason behind it could be.

The things we'd looked at were:

• Water PH
• Room Temperature
• Room Humidity
• Nitrogen Toxicity
• Lights too close
• Soil too hot (Nutrient Rich)

I'd noticed the temperature for a few days had increased drastically to around 30-35°C (85-95°F), so I started leaving the tent open while the lights are on and to increase the humidity I'd put a big bowl of water in the tent.

I'd also noticed my light was producing a lot of the heat and my plant was very short and bushy, so I raised it for a few days to see how she would react and almost instantly the plant started stretching for the light within a day or two and the heat on the canopy had decreased a lot.

Another thing I wasn't testing my PH properly and didn't realize my PH levels were around 8.0 which is not good for your plants at all, so I invested in a PH meter and started by flushing my soil and correcting the soil PH with just plain PH'd water.

I was a bit skeptical on the Nitrogen Toxicity as I was only giving her plain water, but after a bit of research I'd found out that maybe my PH was locking out the plant from uptaking nutrients from the soil or maybe it could be increasing the amount of Nitrogen it's uptaking.
So my opinion if that was possibly the problem, then the previous step I took by flushing the soil should resolve it.

Now this is what I later read about and understoodand that could've potentially been the main reason behind all this and that's the soil being too nutritious. For example, Fox Farm Soil is rich in nutrients and can feed your plant for a good few weeks without any additional nutrients being added. If you add extra nutrients early on then there's a high possibility of seeing deficiencies/toxicities on your plant.

After all these slight alterations, I'd managed to get her looking like this in just under 2 weeks:
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After that I just did a bit of trimming and got rid of all the old growth that wasn't really that beneficial and that had been affected earlier with a bit more LST, she now looks like this on day 39:
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Skyhound said:

Updating to awnser a few questions

Its day 11 since i put the seed with root on the pot, i always put a bit like 150 ml of water on the pot for the seed .

Since then i only used 3 products from biobizz to mix my water as advised by them , no fertilizer because they advise to start fertilizing later , around beggining of 3rd week

This were the products :

Root·Juice - Biobizz

www.biobizz.com

Acti·Vera - Biobizz

www.biobizz.com

Bio·Heaven - Biobizz

www.biobizz.com

Besides this the only thing i can think off is after day 3 i started with a fan with a constant gentle breeze on them 24 hours, could this do some damage? i now have the fan in a cycle off 15 minutes and on 15 minutes .

Humidity is on low records 29% today .


And there is a update picture from the plant , new leafs seems a bit better :

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EXCEPT ONE THIS ONE OUT OF 4 QUICK QUESTION , ONE OF THE PLANTS SEEMS TO HAVE A MUTATION FORM THAT EVEN CUTED ITSELF OR SOMETHING MADE IT , ITS ONLY ON THIS PLANT LOOK :



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what could have caused this cut ?

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Dapper_Dillinger said:

I haven't even used the ph meter that I bought before I knew better. My tap water is at 8.5 after sitting out 24 hours with a air stone I've given my plant this for the last 4/5 weeks during seedlings used drinking water but I also used 1/2tsp of molasses in a gallon one time... but I continue to read how every one uses the ph down and wonder if I'm losing out or causing damage

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Dabbie McDoob said:

Whirled leaf growth is always a Ph issue and likely due to calcium lockout.
Always causes wavy growth and odd nodal development.

Just by the looks of those leaves your soil is hot and has borderline N toxicity.

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Skyhound said:

what about this new symptom does it correlate with what ure saying ?

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WeedMan2020 said:

Overwatered possibly?

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Skyhound said:

Could it be ? i watered 2 days ago and only today they got droopy

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Skyhound said:

The leafs arent cryspy ! they feel soft at touch

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Dabbie McDoob said:

I suggest watering them again. Soil looks dry.
If your soil is dry up to 1" or 25mm below the surface your good to water.

Also, ensure your water is PH properly. Thus preventing your previous issue.

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Skyhound said:

Is there any sign that can distinguish between over and under watering , im thinking overwatering but its strange because they didn t drop or pointed at sky in last watering , they stayed the same , after 1 day leaf points were dropping , and after 2 days they are like this much droopy , 1 liter for that plant size in a 7 lt, pot is to much *????

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