Second attempt

hey, this is my second attempt. my first plant, i put the 75w cfl about 8" away from the plant; it got too tall and skinny and fell over. It cant support itself . I have two questions, the first is, can i bring this little guy back? the second is, b/c im gonna start over, how far should a 75w bulb be from the seedling?

iS THE CFL 75 'ACTUAL WATTS?' Or is it a 75 watt 'replacement? ..... Regardless, u want the light(s) as close as possible without burning ur plant. I'd scrap the one that fell over, it's already too weak, and start over. Be sure u have 6500k cfl's for vegging, and keep a fan lightly blowing on them as soon as they sprout, this'll get u stems fat as ur thumb! Do lots of readin too! We can always learn more, and knowledge never hurts! Visit the FAQ and study it, and if theres any other Q's along the way, someone's usually more than willing to help here. Study up, and u'll be prepared forthe task at hand young grasshopper.

id start again personally... but you could peg the little fella up...

you want the light to be as close as you can without burning the thing.... use the back of your hand.... just put it near the bit closest to the light and see if you reckon it would be to hot.... i highly doubt this was the case... i reckon there was more chance you had it too far away and the seedling was striving to reach for the light leaving this spindly fella to show for its efforts.

I can almost certainly gaurantee that's exactly what happened jester. My very first grow, i tried to use a single 75watt gro-lux from home depot and miracle-gro soil PLUS miracle grow nutes... the poor thing survived to be almost two feet tall, but had not more than 12 leaves on the entire plant, LMAO!!! Trust me, don't go without enough light!

lol

yeah aint that the truth.... seen it done a few times tho so it mustnt be that uncommon lol

unfortunately true

hmmmmm

so i guess depending on how stretchy it is he could peg it up and bring the light closer or "get a bigger one" and try and slow the upward growth down as much as possible andgive the plant time to fatten up..

but if it was bagseed id let it go and start anew.. and not make the same mistake next time

yeah, i buried it deeper, and im giving it some nutrients... im also blowing a fan on it. its getting a lot stronger.
how do they look? oh and yes, its an actual 75w cfl, so thats 4500 lumens. the last time i tried to put it close, like i said, it ran away.

Im starting another, but how do these look?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35250253@N07/3267763491/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35250253@N07/3268587020/

i'm also wondering, would it be smart to but a humidifier in a closet? its also an air purifier, so it will help with air circulation. My closet is closed though, is that gonna be ok?

yeah the plants fine

as for the humidifier its up to you really... if you think it needs it and will benefit it do it... if ya dont think it needs it dont.....

shit man, u should definately be able to salvage that plant. Just keep the fan blowin a nice little breeze on it and that stem'll get nice and fat. Keep that light as close as u can and it wont stretch, it'll get nice and bushy. Do u have a therometer/hygrometer? If not, get one before the humidifyer. In case u do have one though, what's the humity at? Temps?

i can set it to 40, 45, 50, or 55 percent humidity and its about 70 degrees in the closet without the light on. So the plant get nice and toasty! and sorry im a noob, does salvage mean to fatten the stem?

the humidifier/air purifier would cool down the room quite a bit, probably down to about 60. but its the best fan i have, that stays quiet. I sleep in the same room, so i want it nice and quiet. It automatically turns on if the humidity drops below the specified percent, so its like a VERY slow oscillating fan.

What i meant is u should be able to save the plant. Temps with the lights off arent as important as the temps with the lights on, WITH THE LIGHTS ON U WANT TEMPS AT 76 or as close to it as u can, doesn't have to be exact. As for the humidty thing, it sounds like it would work great actually. But whats the humidity without it? For veggin, u want the humidity around 40-50%, then once ur flowering u want it as low as possible so u don't get moly buds. But if ur humidity's already close to what i was sayin, then no need for the humidifyer.

no way, humidity is like 20-25% w/o the humidifier, but i put it in there and im keeping it at 50%

That'll actually end up bein a GOOD thing, since once u begin flowering u want to get the humidity back down so all u'll have to do is cut the humidifyer out then and ur set. Jw, how much water does ur humidifyer hold and how long does it last?

oh man, uh 4 or 5 days... it holds like 3/4 of a gallon. or maybe a gallon.... probably closer to 3/4 though

alright, whats going on!?! the leaves are curling, down, in towards the stem! i think i might have overwatered it, as its been a day and the soil is still damp, but is this the only contributing factor? I was giving it a small amount of water and a homemade nutrient (milk, water and saltpeter --- milk to water ratio 1:4, and a teaspoon of saltpeter in 2.5 cups of milk-water mixture. it was working great, the plant was growing faster. I also changed the bulb to a 23w flourescent, as opposed to a 75w CFL, the cfl was soft white and the 23w is a daylight(6500K). what happened? could i get any advice?

ya shoulda kept a bigger light.. why the hell would you downgrade with such a low lightsource..

the saltpeta (potassium nitrate) to put it simply you over did it lmfao. why were ya even using it lol. itd be more help during bud you want to give small plants more nitrogen ya would have done better to piss in a cup lol... sont get me wrong itsa good thing to have handy now what you want to get is some nitrogen and phosphorous and magnesium and youll be right... but to put it simply potasium is needed less during veg than nitrogen... but more in bud than nitrogen.

this is what i would say caused it to do this.. and y the hell Milk.

milk is a good source of phosphorus and calcium, two things bud needs dude... but will the leaves uncurl themselves?

dunno couldnt say.... ummm they may if its not too bad...

ya may wanna stop the potassium for a bit just my oppinion tho