Scientists Unveil Missing Link In Evolution

Microdizzey

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There will be a press conference for this "Global Event", they will discuss their find to the world. After the press conference the History channel will be having a 2 hour documentary about the missing link.

Google is helping hype this moment up:



"MISSING LINK" FOUND: New Fossil Links Humans, Lemurs?





May 19, 2009—Meet "Ida," the small "missing link" found in Germany that's created a big media splash and will likely continue to make waves among those who study human origins.
In a new book, documentary, and promotional Web site, paleontologist Jorn Hurum, who led the team that analyzed the 47-million-year-old fossil seen above, suggests Ida is a critical missing-link species in primate evolution (interactive guide to human evolution from National Geographic magazine).
(Among the team members was University of Michigan paleontologist Philip Gingerich, a member of the Committee for Research and Exploration of the National Geographic Society, which owns National Geographic News.)
The fossil, he says, bridges the evolutionary split between higher primates such as monkeys, apes, and humans and their more distant relatives such as lemurs.
"This is the first link to all humans," Hurum, of the Natural History Museum in Oslo, Norway, said in a statement. Ida represents "the closest thing we can get to a direct ancestor."
Ida, properly known as Darwinius masillae, has a unique anatomy. The lemur-like skeleton features primate-like characteristics, including grasping hands, opposable thumbs, clawless digits with nails, and relatively short limbs.
"This specimen looks like a really early fossil monkey that belongs to the group that includes us," said Brian Richmond, a biological anthropologist at George Washington University in Washington, D.C., who was not involved in the study.
But there's a big gap in the fossil record from this time period, Richmond noted. Researchers are unsure when and where the primate group that includes monkeys, apes, and humans split from the other group of primates that includes lemurs.
"[Ida] is one of the important branching points on the evolutionary tree," Richmond said, "but it's not the only branching point."
At least one aspect of Ida is unquestionably unique: her incredible preservation, unheard of in specimens from the Eocene era, when early primates underwent a period of rapid evolution. (Explore a prehistoric time line.)
"From this time period there are very few fossils, and they tend to be an isolated tooth here or maybe a tailbone there," Richmond explained. "So you can't say a whole lot of what that [type of fossil] represents in terms of evolutionary history or biology."
In Ida's case, scientists were able to examine fossil evidence of fur and soft tissue and even picked through the remains of her last meal: fruits, seeds, and leaves.
What's more, the newly described "missing link" was found in Germany's Messel Pit. Ida's European origins are intriguing, Richmond said, because they could suggest—contrary to common assumptions—that the continent was an important area for primate evolution.
This "missing link" officially disproves the Bible, as well as other religious scriptures. If it is, indeed, what they claim.
 

hom36rown

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Umm, that does not look like a half monkey, half human to me, so it proves nothing. Until you can show me a half monkey half human, evolution is a hoax lol.
 

hom36rown

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Is this the special thing that would change science as we know it, that the History channel was talking about not too long ago? I assume it is.
 

TheBrutalTruth

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There will be a press conference for this "Global Event", they will discuss their find to the world. After the press conference the History channel will be having a 2 hour documentary about the missing link.

Google is helping hype this moment up:



This "missing link" officially disproves the Bible, as well as other religious scriptures. If it is, indeed, what they claim.
I think it looks more Reptilian than Mammalian.
 

medicineman

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Definently looks more republican than democrat. The missing link, HA, the only thing missing is intelligence in their assumptions.
 

slipperyP

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I call bullshit....No one in my family was related to a monkey. There were a certian # of animals to begin with and there only being eliminated and never created. All of the evolutionary sciences are based on untestable and unrepeatable assumptions.
 

hom36rown

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Yeah, your hypothesis is much better :roll: Evolution seeks to explain the diversity of life on the planet, no other scientific theory does so. And saying we were all here at once, mnkeys and sloths and koalas lived with raptors and t-rex and stegosaurus is just asinine. How exactlydo you come to this conclusion slipperyP? How come we have never found any of today species fossilized next to dinosuars, HMMMMMMM?
 

Microdizzey

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Is this the special thing that would change science as we know it, that the History channel was talking about not too long ago? I assume it is.
Yup, it's that "This changes everything" thing. :lol:

I don't believe we evolved from micro-organisms or monkeys or whatever (though I would not dismiss it either). Just pointing this out to everyone. It puts up red flags for me because I'm a believer in God. This missing link cannot disprove the existence of God, but it can disprove religious scriptures. Which, I might add, is exactly what a one world religion needs to take place. But that is just speculation of course. :blsmoke:

Anyway, the press conference is in 5 days. Should be fairly interesting.
 

Hobe

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Thanks for the post, I've been looking forward to History Chan's special, and a being a nerd before it to learn as much as I can. And before this turns into a holy war, it doesn't disprove or prove anything, the bible is an interpretation of a stroy. "And then God said, let there be light" is often thought to be the big bang, Adam and Eve the first biological life. We are all are made from stars!!!
 

Microdizzey

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Thanks for the post, I've been looking forward to History Chan's special, and a being a nerd before it to learn as much as I can. And before this turns into a holy war, it doesn't disprove or prove anything, the bible is an interpretation of a stroy. "And then God said, let there be light" is often thought to be the big bang, Adam and Eve the first biological life. We are all are made from stars!!!
I hope they keep religion out of it. It'll only start trouble and angry mobs.

One thing I don't get about evolution, though. Humans take materials from the ground, from the Earth, and turn it into what we possess now. We take the ground and turn it into complex structures, tools, devices, clothing, food, medicine, etc. Our modern technology would be nearly impossible to understand 100 years ago (try explaining an ipod to George Washington!). It's no question we are super intelligent beings. But I've yet to see a monkey choose on it's own to wear fabric, or choose on it's own to use a sharp tool to hunt, or choose on it's own to build a hammock to sleep on. If we evolve, shouldn't other creatures be evolving as well? Shouldn't other animals be gaining more intelligence as they evolve? Well, we can see that animals are getting smarter, but still no where near the complex mind of a human.

There's such a massive difference in our intelligence compared to every other living organism. I don't get why we are the only creatures brilliant enough to produce anything our minds conceive with the help of our hands and eyes. But then again, I haven't studied this subject much. All I can do is speculate until I fully understand it.
 

Charger

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Thanks for the post, I've been looking forward to History Chan's special, and a being a nerd before it to learn as much as I can. And before this turns into a holy war, it doesn't disprove or prove anything, the bible is an interpretation of a stroy. "And then God said, let there be light" is often thought to be the big bang, Adam and Eve the first biological life. We are all are made from stars!!!
"We are all are made from stars!!!" Not that I disagree, but could you elaborate?
 

slipperyP

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Yeah, your hypothesis is much better :roll: Evolution seeks to explain the diversity of life on the planet, no other scientific theory does so. And saying we were all here at once, mnkeys and sloths and koalas lived with raptors and t-rex and stegosaurus is just asinine. How exactlydo you come to this conclusion slipperyP? How come we have never found any of today species fossilized next to dinosuars, HMMMMMMM?

They do...there are fossilized scorpions that are identical to the ones found today, they have found human footprints with a dinosaur print overlapping. There are stingrays and all kinds of animals.

Some animals have gained diversity amongst there own kind...That is the only testable scientific proof of starting life.

Dinosaurs were big due to the size of the plants at the time they were around...That is proven by the coal and oil deposits...Palm trees on the north pole under the ice, etc...Plants Were Big..Prob from a more temperate climate.

The alligators were huge...They didn't evolve they just shrank in size because the animals they were eating shank.
 

slipperyP

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And another thing about the fossilized record...It's all jacked up. Just because something is buried in the soil deeper then something else dosen't nessasarily make it older. They use marker species like ancient fish and such to date the rocks millions and millions of years old, then when they find an animal in that layer they say "We KNOW that this animal is X amount of years old because we found this fish in it.

Just because i don't know how to accurately date really old things that are exposed to the elements of earth dosen't make the methods accepted by science to reach some really outrageous claims that are mostly backed up by faith in there word.

In the grand canyon two layers of dirt recognized around the world as being a billion years apart are right on top of each other...I figure no sidiments fell there for say a billion years.

They say you don't see evolution of new species today because it happens so slow...but in the past it happened very quickly...Like a chicken laid an egg and a lizard ran out. You cant have it both ways...something happend in the past to give us the gigantic layer of fossils that we have. Most animals will be devoured back to the earth through enzymes and such...conditions have to be perfect for fossils to form. It was a flood.

The only thing the fossilzed record proves is those animals died. There are multi-strata fossilized trees...these are supposed to be millions of years old. They start in one layer of time if you want to speak geologically...amazingly they stand and fossilize thru millions of layers of sand...lol....what a joke....What dead tree stands for a million years and petrifiys.
 

olosto

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SlipperyP, you left out the fact that according to the bible, there should be no fossil record. In fact by the bibles statements the world is only like 6,000 years old..
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

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It's actually 100 million years, and the reasoning I have found is that they eroded away.

Some things are weird no doubt, but will eventually be decoded to make sense. Now if we could only get there...


Edit: That was not to you Olo lol
 

Chase the Bass

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The scientists don't say that this is THE missing link. They say it's not a great-great-great-great grandmother but a great-great-great-great aunt.
 

Chase the Bass

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"We are all are made from stars!!!" Not that I disagree, but could you elaborate?
I think he is referring to the creation of planets and solar systems. The elements that we are made out of originally came from the stars. It's actually one of my favorite things to think about when I'm baked lol.
 
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