Rusty dots starting at leaf tip

Kind Sir

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Is this a phos def, it kind of looked like a picture I saw of one? I wouldn't think so but Idk, I got a lot of runoff last water.. I didn't get much run off prior so maby a buildup? Bad move on my part.
 

Kind Sir

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There's some symptoms on other fan leaves as well, as you can see in the picture. I just want to get this under control so I can try to concentrate on my Bodhi seeds. (They'll be here in a few days Grease)

@Dr. Who Hope I'm not bugging you, I've seen you around for awhile.
 

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greasemonkeymann

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So it's not dots at all, I updated a new picture. I wasn't getting runoff to be honest, so I got a lot the last watering. @greasemonkeymann
got enough aeration man?
is it a new mix?
enough drainage at the bottom?
always water to runoff man, water all your plants lightly, then start back again on the first plant, make sure they NEVER sit in their own drainage, and make sure the runoff isn't coffee colored.
 

Kind Sir

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got enough aeration man?
is it a new mix?
enough drainage at the bottom?
always water to runoff man, water all your plants lightly, then start back again on the first plant, make sure they NEVER sit in their own drainage, and make sure the runoff isn't coffee colored.


I got lazy on the runoff, it's not that I didn't suck it up I didn't even get any. It's in like a 7gal pot and was a small plant, so didn't think it was necessary atleast at first. I definitley thought there was enough aeration, this wasn't my main mix so.. Let's say there IS NOT enough aeration. It's in such a big pot I couldn't transplant yet, thoughts?
 

irish grower

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So far, besides a little top dress I've only done plain water. I have oyster shell flour/crab shell meal, also have bottle of calmag but didn't think that's what you do in organics?
ye i grow in organically aswell,but theres only so much nuits in the soil eventually you'll have to add something,unless ur using foxfarm or some good soil like that.mine does the same just got to add nuits when she tells me too il catch it b4 starts if i can.
 

irish grower

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buy one good grow bible and your set.you'll still ask questions here but the bible will answer a hell of a lot of the little things ye on me lad
 

greasemonkeymann

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I got lazy on the runoff, it's not that I didn't suck it up I didn't even get any. It's in like a 7gal pot and was a small plant, so didn't think it was necessary atleast at first. I definitley thought there was enough aeration, this wasn't my main mix so.. Let's say there IS NOT enough aeration. It's in such a big pot I couldn't transplant yet, thoughts?
here's my concern, the soil undoubtedly has enough nutrients in it, that size of plant isn't going to deficient of anything on it's own, the issue (so it would seem) is that the soil potentially is too anaerobic OR isn't allowed to drain off after sufficient watering.
water thoroughly, with the bottom of the container NOT sitting in water, water slowly, small amounts, with about ten minute breaks between watering, water like a pint glass of water at a time (applied slowly, not all at once), and water (giving ten min breaks between) until you see runoff.
observe the runoff, if it's brown or coffee colored, then you want to water until it clears up
ten minutes between
after that is done, use something to "fluff" up the surface of the soil to allow it to dry out without caking.
a fan lightly blowing on the container isn't a bad idea either
 

Kind Sir

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Thanks buddy. Yes, the runoff was yellow but didn't smell bad. I got about a half gallon of runoff, it won't need to be watered for a couple days now but I don't want it sitting in that soil without runoff being clear. Can I get runoff tonight, do it slowly but get a lot? I could fluff it up and run a fan on it afterwards


QUOTE="greasemonkeymann, post: 13339311, member: 227989"]here's my concern, the soil undoubtedly has enough nutrients in it, that size of plant isn't going to deficient of anything on it's own, the issue (so it would seem) is that the soil potentially is too anaerobic OR isn't allowed to drain off after sufficient watering.
water thoroughly, with the bottom of the container NOT sitting in water, water slowly, small amounts, with about ten minute breaks between watering, water like a pint glass of water at a time (applied slowly, not all at once), and water (giving ten min breaks between) until you see runoff.
observe the runoff, if it's brown or coffee colored, then you want to water until it clears up
ten minutes between
after that is done, use something to "fluff" up the surface of the soil to allow it to dry out without caking.
a fan lightly blowing on the container isn't a bad idea either[/QUOTE]
 

im4satori

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thats for sure not P def

looks like an imbalance between K:Ca:Mg

theres definitely something going on with your magnesium

I just cant say if its lock from to much calcium or potassium
or
just not enough

theres nothing to lose and no risk of harm and possibly/likely something to be gained by spraying them with Epsom salt

1/2 tsp per gallon max

spray them 2x over 4 days

I don't know shit about your medium so im not sure if it holds nutrients and buffers like soil or if its more like coco

or did I miss understand and it is soil with those amendments..
 

greasemonkeymann

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thats for sure not P def

looks like an imbalance between K:Ca:Mg

theres definitely something going on with your magnesium

I just cant say if its lock from to much calcium or potassium
or
just not enough

..
exactly, that's why I inquired about the aeration.
Sorry for the delay. Besides the amendments, it's just sphagnum peat moss/aeration/compost
a yellow runoff isn't bad really
let the plant dry out thoroughly, watch it for the next week or so
a foliar couldn't hurt either I suppose
 

irish grower

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i use peat aswell,i holds nuits n water for 4 or 5 days,try this heat 4 ltrs of water ad nuits to one and run both through it,make sure there hot but not too hot just nice,plant will suck the shit up out of the hot water so that should solve you problem,if not we'll try something else,just remember its a plant lad she wants to bud no matter what
 
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