loquacious
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Like I have stated before in other threads, Ron Paul is the new Ralph Nader only not as smart or charming! By the by, Ralph led a lot polls several different times.
Ron Paul Has A Legit Shot.
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Dan Kone
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Yep. I've looked into it. Was considering doing a solar grow in the winter, then concentrating on OD in the summer and selling my power back. It was about 5 years ago so I can't recall my exact sources, but yes. PGE + southern edison rammed an initiative that made it impossible to wholesale power back using their lines. They can legally only zero out your electricity bill for the year (not including fees ofc), and on Jan 1 any extra energy they've gotten from you becomes their property and you've got to start paying again.
It's a joke of a regulation very obviously pushed through by their lobbyists.
Dan Kone
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Paul is a progressive. There is no rule saying you can't be both a progressive and a conservative. After all the founder of the progressive movement was a republican. Contrary to popular belief, progressive doesn't mean liberal. It means being open to think different, not accept the status quo, and be open to new ideas as you get new information. Paul's platform is certainly progressive.
Excellent. I always encourage people to be involved in democracy even when I disagree with their views.I'm on it..
Dan Kone
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That's fucking legit. Well done man. +repBuilt and installed most of it myself over the last 5 years. Started small with a 1000 watt setup that ran me about $5000. Over the years i probably got $70,000 into it. The panels are the cheaper of the parts needed for a grid tie system with backup. I got batteries and they all need to be replaced every 5-10 years or so depending on how many cycles they get on them, i have 8 big deep cycle Absorbed Glass Matt batteries, they cost $1100 a piece. The batteries have to have a charge controller hooked up to each pair, so i have 4 of those, they cost $550 a pop. i have 3 big 6,000 watt inverters that cost 3 grand a piece. Now you got inverters to turn your PV array into 120v power but you gotta have more inverters to be able to turn the PV array power into 24 volt power for the charge controllers power too, so there goes 2 more inverters ( you don't need as big of ones because power use at night isn't as much, so it doesn't take that much out of the batteries) just to keep the charge controllers happy.Then there are the diagnostic stuff that alerts me to things like under-voltage, over-voltage, battery problems, PV array problems, Stuck trackers, ammeter, wattmeter, lots of big fuses anf fuse holders under plxi and lots of big fat wires, plus trenching and installing the pipe to the array etc etc. Oh yeah, the panels behind the house ( I live on a farm) are all on 2 axis sun trackers that keep the panels at the optimum angle to the sun all day, all year. The panels at $300 a pop for me to make are the cheapest parts, but its all built to go for 30 years, cept the batteries.
Mine is about twice that size and spread out amongst 10 trackers, then there are 10 panels on my south facing roof.
I get a check from the utility company every month, my meter runs backwards 99% of the time.
deprave
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You really haven't been following the news so stop acting like you have been....Ron Paul is the only one that stands a chance actually...it will be a tight race at best..
The social conservatives that elected bush choose Ron Paul over all candidates overwhelmingly over all the other Republican Candidates. These account for 33% of the vote in 2000.
The Young people will come out in droves, they are coming out in droves, to vote for Ron Paul...at Newt/Mitt Campaign its the sound of crickets....even they admit...all they ever see is Ron Paul supporters everywhere.
The Independents and Liberals who aren't happy with Obama will vote for Ron Paul the anti-war candidate.
All candidates are exactly the same of the Republican's, Ron Paul is the only different one, the other candidates have admitted in public that Ron Paul Inspires them the most.
Ron Paul has won nearly every single straw poll (he is like 17 for 20)...The Cain supporters and the corporate tea party are choosing Ron Paul, even palin keeps saying nice things.
If anything....The rest of the republican candidates are bigger morons than ever and more evil then ever.....they are sooooo shitty this year that it guarantees Ron Paul the spot, I said this last year, and it has rang true...now with weeks to go and Ron Paul is pretty much the only one left standing.
loquacious
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I didn't say primaries, I was just pointing out the similarities and the fact that polls are worthless.
Dan Kone
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Polls taking right now don't accurately show who's going to win on election day. Their purpose is to show voter trends.
whatever he stands for he wont win. he dosent have the inside connections to win.
Dan Kone
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Potentially, he has the tea party. They've got more power than you'd think. Establishment republicans and democrats alike are terrified of them. As they should be. Those people are f-king nuts.
If he can get the backing of the congressional tea party caucus, that would be enough for him to have this election in the bag.
Dan Kone
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My advice to you and people like you would be not to do that. There are specific messages candidates like to put out/hold back in every area code. If you start talking to people about aspects of Ron Paul you like even if you make a good case, that can do harm to the candidate. You could hurt his campaign by doing that.
In places like Iowa they poll issues by zip code and ONLY mention specific issues in specific places. Unless you have access to that information you shouldn't do it.
But don't worry, there IS something positive you can do from your house that would be extremely helpful and you can do it right now.
Letter writing campaign. I know a couple congressmen, and I know for a fact that these letters do get read and taken very seriously. Generally the only people who take the time to write a politician a letter are people who vote.
The key is to make sure it looks like a real letter and not junk mail. Hand write as much as possible. If it's a hand written envelope with a return address, it'll get opened. If you've got good enough hand writing, hand write the letter. Otherwise type and hand sign it.
Write letters asking people to endorse Ron Paul. He needs endorsements more than anything else right now IMO. Romney has got Christy's endorsement. Newt is about to get Trump's. Ron Paul doesn't have any names that ring out like those.
Write a letter to elected officials in your state, Iowa, New Hampshire, and anyone else you feel like. If it were me, I'd organize a group and all write letters to the mayor of every town in Iowa and their congressmen too. Also to your local congressmen since you vote in his district.
This sounds dumb, but it really is effective. In fact, it's effective because it sounds dumb. Because it sounds dumb, not very many people do it. With few people doing it, your voice carries more weight. I doubt Mitt Romney supporters are doing this.
best i dea i have heard, if you can get access to a plotter you can have it write all the letters for you with a ball point pen, looks like you spent hours crafting each letter perfectly, leaves a nice impression on the paper and you can even configure it to exactly plot your own handwriting with differing pressures and everything. Send 100,000 of those babies out to every county and see how effective it is. Of course if you can write really well and use plain ole appeal to peoples emotions and common sense you could create a killer letter that convinces most to vote for RP!
Dan Kone
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Good idea. If you have access to a plotter, that would work.
Even if you end up just typing it out, hand signing the letter, and hand addressing the envelopes, that could have an impact. If a politician gets 20 letters written to him asking him to endorse Ron Paul, that politician will at the least consider it/discuss it/think about it. Put enough politicians in that position and it's going to be effective on some of them.
RyanTheRhino
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Caller is a active voting Iowa citizen. Says the only people gathering are Ron Paul supporters. "Apparently the Media has fake polls"....... I love it lol
[video=youtube;g4B6cT-K8go]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4B6cT-K8go&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
[video=youtube;g4B6cT-K8go]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4B6cT-K8go&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
RyanTheRhino
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[video=youtube;ei-sbJU29AE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ei-sbJU29AE[/video]
sync0s
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Iowa won't know what hit 'em...
(Yes, I left out the usual condescension towards the younger voters that follows things like these. You can read it yourself on the link)
http://www.youthforpaul.com/
(Yes, I left out the usual condescension towards the younger voters that follows things like these. You can read it yourself on the link)
http://www.youthforpaul.com/
Dan Kone
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Paul is now polling in the double digits nation wide for the first time.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx
http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx
beardo
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Maybe people watched the debate and picked up on the fact that they have a choice between Ron Paul and War with Iran and Syria and a loss of freedom and rights along with increacing debt and lower standard of living.
Dan Kone
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Nah. Republicans hate Paul's views on foreign policy and the military. He'd serve himself well to not talk about that as much.
IMO it's more about Republicans hating the alternatives. Either way, if either Romney or Newt makes a mistake, Pauls numbers will shoot up and he'll be the front runner.
beardo
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I hate how partisan all these idiots are
I hated when they kept asking Paul- "so on the issue of Iran you would be rinning to the left of Obama" Like everythings left or right or like each party has to take a unified stance on an issue because that's the party line
These people sicken me- It's not a football game where your trying to make sure your team wins and the other team loses- these people are sopposed to represent us- all of us
Shouldn't it be about right and wrong- not left or right or dem vs repub
Shouldn't it be about whats best for the people who make up our country?
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