Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

RedCarpetMatches

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I'm still using HID's, but am currently researching LED's. I have too much invested into my HID's to convert at the moment, but am gathering as much information as possible from as many different sources so I can make a wise purchase when the time comes to ditch these stupid HID's.

Exactly which LED's do you use, and why?
There're MANY knowledgeable and helpful folks on the LED threads! I'm to the point of wanting to build my own. You have many choices brother. If I were you, I'd ride my HIDs out. By that time something better and cheaper will be out...like buying smartphones. If you have a 1000w MH magnetic ballast, look into this if you're interested in vert growing and the best HID http://advancedtechlighting.com/cdmea860.htm
 

boblawblah421

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There're MANY knowledgeable and helpful folks on the LED threads! I'm to the point of wanting to build my own. You have many choices brother. If I were you, I'd ride my HIDs out. By that time something better and cheaper will be out...like buying smartphones. If you have a 1000w MH magnetic ballast, look into this if you're interested in vert growing and the best HID http://advancedtechlighting.com/cdmea860.htm
I've gone vertical before, and was in the middle of designing an organic flood and drain, vertical system when I stumbled upon this thread.

I decided to take the most colossal leap in the quality direction, as opposed to quantity.

After I have made good use of the 300 gallon raised bed I built, filled with 300 gallons of beautifully aged, diverse, recycled, composted organic matter, I'll rework that vertical system I was designing. Hopefully by then someone will have put out a dope ass LED fixture setup specifically for vertical gardening. Not exactly sure how I'm gonna manage 300 or more gallons of soil as one mass vertically, but I promise I'll figure it out.

Until then, these HID's are just too fucking hot, and I'm really starting to believe that they put off too intense, of a limited spectrum. Really, they are ridiculously inefficient in every way imaginable. This is even coming from an experienced Hydro Innovations "Ice Box" user, which by the way, is the most efficient way to cool HID's unless you just have access to as much frigid air as you like, in my experience that is, and I've cooled HID's in way too many different ways to count.

I'm quite the DIY'er myself, but some things I just don't have time for. With as many goals as I have for myself, and as much time as I spend achieving these goals, and being as self-sustainable as possible, I don't mind paying a premium price for a premium product on a rare occasion. Less than a month ago did I finally upgrade from my iPhone 3GS, so when I say rare, I mean it. Sometimes you gotta just go pay someone else to grill you up a fire ass filet mignon and leave the fucking fishing poles at the crib. I've toyed with the idea of building my own LED fixtures and solar panels, but I just have too much on my plate for those two DIY projects.

I'vew thumbed throught the LED forums here, and elsewhere. I definitely need to read more. The proof is in the god damn pudding though I'll tell ya what. Green Santa's results reached out and smacked me in the face, so I'd love to ad his point of view to my collection of opinions.

I hate HTG, but am extremely interested in their brand new LED's. AgroMax intensity series is what they are called. Can't find anybody using them, but they look fucking sick.
 

hyroot

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Anyway, who here uses SRP (soft rock phosphate)???
I do. I've been using instead of rock dust. I couldn't find any rock dust locally at the time. Every shop had ran out. The farm supply I go to gets ransacked every weekend. I picked up some soft rock phosphate powder 0-3-0 I just have been using a 1 cup per cu foot. I could probably use more. I didn't want to over do it. I've used it on only 2 batches.
 

hyroot

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IMO LED/efficient lighting wise:
1. This is the Cadillac of LED http://www.apachetechinc.com/
2. Bang for your buck http://www.bonsaihero.com/ledgrow.html
3. I bought two of these babies http://a51led.com/store/ should of had this at #2
4. Check out hyroots Induction thread
5. My 860w CMH runs as hot as a 600w HPS. My veggies/biggins are 16" away bare bulb with no fan underneath...in the winter. Not much wasted light on that bad boy.

I do concur

all other led panels are much lower quality. A51, Apache and Hans are the best and they all use top bin led's. Also I am loving my induction grow so far. I really dig the add on led pontoons too
 

RedCarpetMatches

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I do concur

all other led panels are much lower quality. A51, Apache and Hans are the best and they all use top bin led's. Also I am loving my induction grow so far. I really dig the add on led pontoons too
Please tell me you got the pontoons included...I'm hoping on spending less than 75$ for the far red in a 5x5.
 

Steelheader3430

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You know you wanna vert ;) I'm amazed at how cool they run...winter or not. CMH is as important as organics to me.
I finally got to order the amendments for my soil. I should be mixing next weekend. Just need more rock dust, some Mycos, tea and maybe some fungus from my local organic gurus. I don't remember what kind of fungus this guy was growing but 3 days after innoculating a tray of compost it looked like an iced sheet cake. Then seeds, then some welded wire for a trellis.
 

kushking42

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they are local dispensary staples. dark heart, queen bee, and a couple other regular vendors at the harborside.

hunting for a light dep winner for spring.
 

unkle mouse

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spoke to soon,,,thanks


Thank you all, btw, I dont have lower temps at night, my temps are pretty steady around 22 Celsius at lights off and 25 Celsius at lights on. I grow with LEDs. I think a combination of genetic, not over doing it with the nitrogen and growing with LEDs seem to make many of my plants turn purple.

The strains from the starts are 2 close ups of Shark by CBD crew, 2 pics of SpaceGrin (Dr.Grinspoon X Spacebomb) 1 close up of ZionEaze (Revolution X Cheese), 2 pics of BlueSage (Jordan of the Island), 2 CBD Sharks again and the final 3 are another one of my crosses (SpaceBomb X Medicine), I called this cross SpacePussy.
 

unkle mouse

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uh huh... yall got me hooked.. already been collecting ingredient's, still do not have a complete recipe yet,, but dammit all,,, I twyin,, I twyin
 

Nizza

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hi everyone
i finally got some big 15 gallon containers.
i'm in a rush to get a harvest so i got happy frog and am using dyna gro nutes
i'd like to at the end of the run, if possible, recycle the soil into living soil
i didnt know if the dyna would screw up the possibility of this or what, but i'm really into the idea of re-using soil and getting compost teas and ewc's going. i have a lot more to read on here, and want to make the change over after next harvest
any tips? pointers?
besides the stuff i'll read on the first 10-30 pages
 

foreverflyhi

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hi everyone
i finally got some big 15 gallon containers.
i'm in a rush to get a harvest so i got happy frog and am using dyna gro nutes
i'd like to at the end of the run, if possible, recycle the soil into living soil
i didnt know if the dyna would screw up the possibility of this or what, but i'm really into the idea of re-using soil and getting compost teas and ewc's going. i have a lot more to read on here, and want to make the change over after next harvest
any tips? pointers?
besides the stuff i'll read on the first 10-30 pages

Well, some no tillers use dyna gro sillica.. But regaurdless the whole nutrient line is petroliom based and thats what most of us no till rols folk try to stay away from. I say if u absolutely must keep the soil, then by all means work with it and add a shit load of ewc and compsost. I say start over
 
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