Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[farm hippie]

It is full of all kinds of life and needs to be this consistency because wood itself will rob nitrogen as it decomposes.

I am also collecting a bunch of leaf mold from Forrest floor. Also fresh chicken manure, some deer manure, fine limestone gravel from the creek bed. Pearlite, crushed oyster shells that I use as a suppliment for cal with the chickens, bone meal, and one of the few ingredients I don't have available greensand. Oh and a bunch of moss.

 

[farm hippie]

It is full of all kinds of life and needs to be this consistency because wood itself will rob nitrogen as it decomposes.

I am also collecting a bunch of leaf mold from Forrest floor. Also fresh chicken manure, some deer manure, fine limestone gravel from the creek bed. Pearlite, crushed oyster shells that I use as a suppliment for cal with the chickens, bone meal, and one of the few ingredients I don't have available greensand. Oh and a bunch of moss.

I have plenty of earthworms and sow bugs in the mix as well.
Going to use 100gallon container. For this grow and treat it like an indoor patch of the land. Going to let it all cook for a few weeks first then going to sow directly into the soil. Any suggestions?

 

[goodjoint]

I have plenty of earthworms and sow bugs in the mix as well.
Going to use 100gallon container. For this grow and treat it like an indoor patch of the land. Going to let it all cook for a few weeks first then going to sow directly into the soil. Any suggestions?

sounds cool... can sow bugs bring any negative effects to the indoor grow? I like the idea of having them in the mix.

 

[farm hippie]

sounds cool... can sow bugs bring any negative effects to the indoor grow? I like the idea of having them in the mix.

I'm not 100% sure. But I do know they feed on decaying matter so their poop should be full of beneficials. An old farmer once explained to me a good rule of thumb with herbivors and insects. If it eats it, it poops it, if it poops it, it will always fertilize what it ate.

 

[farm hippie]

I'm not 100% sure. But I do know they feed on decaying matter so their poop should be full of beneficials. An old farmer once explained to me a good rule of thumb with herbivors and insects. If it eats it, it poops it, if it poops it, it will always fertilize what it ate.

One cow can live on one acre but will fertilize two. My attitude is incorporate as much nature as possible. Two creatures that are hard NOT to find in a healthy natural growth or cultivated growth outdoors are earthworms and sow bugs

 

[farm hippie]

One cow can live on one acre but will fertilize two. My attitude is incorporate as much nature as possible. Two creatures that are hard NOT to find in a healthy natural growth or cultivated growth outdoors are earthworms and sow bugs

Did a little research. They are harmless to plants and people and they do eat decaying organic matter. They are crusteceans and can not keep moisture so that's why they live in damp places like under mulch. So in a no till setting it would stand to reason that they are part of your on site composting/ conversion crew

 

[smokey the cat]

Did a little research. They are harmless to plants and people and they do eat decaying organic matter. They are crusteceans and can not keep moisture so that's why they live in damp places like under mulch. So in a no till setting it would stand to reason that they are part of your on site composting/ conversion crew

I know I expected my compost to harbour heaps of critters that'd attack the plant, and found it amazing when it didn't. Makes total sense - any insect found in mature compost isnt the type of animal that is going to be interested in living plants.

 

[farm hippie]

I know I expected my compost to harbour heaps of critters that'd attack the plant, and found it amazing when it didn't. Makes total sense - any insect found in mature compost isnt the type of animal that is going to be interested in living plants.

Yeah. When I started farming one thing that amazed me over and over and still does is how much nature knows what she's doing. And how little she needs our help.
Same applies to growing once you give her a chance she will pay your trust back.

 

[tillygrower]

Does anyone grow any veggies in their grow room?
I was thinking of planting a few tomato plants around the edges.

 

[farm hippie]

Does anyone grow any veggies in their grow room?
I was thinking of planting a few tomato plants around the edges.

I have but only in seperate pots. Indoor organicly grown veggies rock. As long as they don't have to compete for light with your girls

 

[farm hippie]

I have but only in seperate pots. Indoor organicly grown veggies rock. As long as they don't have to compete for light with your girls

Remember both weed and tomatoe plants can get quite large.

 

[SouthernSoil*]

Hey guys, im in day 3 of the 600w hps on 12/12, temps are around 82-87 so its not too bad, company sent me a brand new fan controller free of charge, so the power outages story is sorted finally along with the 12v battery&timer for backup lighting i should be hermie free... & Ive only been watering with lacto b and water since veg, havent made any AACT's or SST's and not sure if i should now or wait another 3 weeks. Also could would Lucerne which is like afalfa but higher in N be fine for mulch ? or once it breaks down will it be too strong or will i only see slight break down if its used as mulch ?

In 2 days i need to be out of the house for 3 days, so ive been working on a auto watering system for my ladies, i already bought a submersible pump,digital timer,have a bucket,got piping & T-Pieces, any of you guys got some experience with this ? I had a look at some DIY systems but trying to tweak something into my setup, i made a prototype picture for a better explanation.

As long as my pump and bucket stay above the level of the pots & the plastic container stays flat and not tilting i should be good to go and make this ? Any help or advice will be really really really appreciated. Peace & Respect

 

[tillygrower]

I have but only in seperate pots. Indoor organicly grown veggies rock. As long as they don't have to compete for light with your girls

Great. I just didn't know if the light cycle would be a problem or anything like that. My plan was pretty much to place them at the edges and use up any residual light and see what happens.

 

[CannaBare]

Great. I just didn't know if the light cycle would be a problem or anything like that. My plan was pretty much to place them at the edges and use up any residual light and see what happens.

I grow lettuce all around my plants! not a problem

 

[st0wandgrow]

Great. I just didn't know if the light cycle would be a problem or anything like that. My plan was pretty much to place them at the edges and use up any residual light and see what happens.

The tomato will do well in the veg room under 18/6 or something close. They don't fruit very well under 12/12 though

 

[tillygrower]

The tomato will do well in the veg room under 18/6 or something close. They don't fruit very well under 12/12 though

Ok yeah, this is the kind of info I'm looking for. Another plant that will be able to grow next to the marijuana and be ok when the lights flip to 12/12
Thanks

 

[SouthernSoil*]

Guys, ive got lucerne & normal wheat straw hay, should i mix them up and lay a thick mulch or just one of them ? Got the lucerne in its bag so its pretty clean i rate, hay has been standing outside for a week now, should i be concerned about bringing in any unwanted bugs ? Thank You

 

[DonTesla]

I'm making 8cf+ of soil on Tuesday. No better time to do some side by sides. I will mix the peat and coir separate.

Tote one= 2cf peat, 1.5cf my EWC, 1.5cf rice hulls.

Tote two= 2cf coir, 1.5cf my EWC, 1.5cf rice hulls.

I will add the same amendments to each bin, with the exception of liming agents. I would typically add a couple cups oyster shell flour, and 1 cup dolomite lime to the peat. P, any input here on either the liming agents, or the brand of peat to use (I typically use Premier)? To the coco coir I will add a couple cups of gypsum. DT, DP, any input on the coco tip?

I will have 6 clones ready from the same mother. 2 will go in the straight coir mix, 2 will go in the straight peat mix, and 2 will go in to a 50/50 mix.

Any input from anyone before I throw this together on Tuesday is welcome. Maybe I'll start a new thread in this section on it....

Is there a link or thread for this SxS bro?!

 

[st0wandgrow]

Is there a link or thread for this SxS bro?!

I didn't do a thread. For some reason the topic created a dust up here in the organics section over peat vs coco so I said fuck it and didn't bother. Plants turned out excellent though. Only difference I noticed was the coco coir needed to be watered less often..... which I didn't clue in to until mid way through flower, so the yield suffered a bit with the coco buckets. I chalked that off to less oxygen in the root zone due to my over-watering

 

[DonTesla]

Hey guys, im in day 3 of the 600w hps on 12/12, temps are around 82-87 so its not too bad, company sent me a brand new fan controller free of charge, so the power outages story is sorted finally along with the 12v battery&timer for backup lighting i should be hermie free... & Ive only been watering with lacto b and water since veg, havent made any AACT's or SST's and not sure if i should now or wait another 3 weeks. Also could would Lucerne which is like afalfa but higher in N be fine for mulch ? or once it breaks down will it be too strong or will i only see slight break down if its used as mulch ?

In 2 days i need to be out of the house for 3 days, so ive been working on a auto watering system for my ladies, i already bought a submersible pump,digital timer,have a bucket,got piping & T-Pieces, any of you guys got some experience with this ? I had a look at some DIY systems but trying to tweak something into my setup, i made a prototype picture for a better explanation.

As long as my pump and bucket stay above the level of the pots & the plastic container stays flat and not tilting i should be good to go and make this ? Any help or advice will be really really really appreciated. Peace & Respect

I'm looking at doing one of these for The holidays, nice diagram, just wondering what size (strength) of pump you went with and why you don't want the water level with the plants.. Wouldn't want gravity over watering for us

Respect
-Tesla