Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Midwest Weedist

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Believe me - we have all done stupid things. I have had to disinfect my veg cabinet more times than I wish to mention. Each time I learn a new thing that I can use to improve my next grow.

I had some killer Scott's OG I was letting take it's time in a shady spot. It kept getting frostier and frostier. Then it seemed too frosty. It was covered in white fur!









Cheers,
Mo
That was my exact thought when I saw the first bit of it, waaay to frosty to be trichomes.
Your pictures make me a little paranoid my Scott's will do that. Which would be the worst because that's the strain that I rely on for most of my medicinal needs.
 

anzohaze

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Bleach is the best thing you can use against everything. You can dilute it to 3% and nothing can survive it. I don't like using it either but is is the most effective. H202 is also effective. You want to use a strong oxidizer. Wear safety equipment and a respirator. Use a big fan set on High to provide fresh air.

Fire is the ultimate oxidizer. That is why you burn any diseased plant material.

In the old days they would burn villages to stop outbreaks of diseases. Puts it in perspective :)

Cheers,
Mo
When I have to tear my room apart every year or so I put 50/50 bleach in a pump sprayers and spry everything let it soak for a minute then wipe it all Down
 

greasemonkeymann

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Believe me - we have all done stupid things. I have had to disinfect my veg cabinet more times than I wish to mention. Each time I learn a new thing that I can use to improve my next grow.

I had some killer Scott's OG I was letting take it's time in a shady spot. It kept getting frostier and frostier. Then it seemed too frosty. It was covered in white fur!





Cheers,
Mo
man that's a good one, that big of an outbreak huh?
ouch.
I had a small calamity happen to me too, in 48 hrs one of the plants I got from a friend went from being totally fine to literally DRIPPING mites...
not shitting you guys... the mites and their webs were literally dripping/oozing from the leaf tips and the entire cola was webbed.
100% the worst I have seen...
and fellas... I have seen my share...
it was when it got to be over 100 degrees here and dry and those mites just started fucking and procreating like adolescent rats on Viagra
---side note--- this plant was in an un-organic soil mix, it wasn't my mix, alllllllll my plants were unaffected. but that one was totally smoked.
could be coincidence, could be because that plant had a problem and I didn't see it.
either way
no pics either guys... couldn't bring myself to do it.. just wanted to rip that bitch out and toss her off the cliff
 

st0wandgrow

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Looking good...what you add to that base st0w?
The usual amendments. Kelp, alfalfa, crab shell, neem seed, oyster shell, rock fines, azomite, and gypsum. Haven't even needed a tea or anything lately.

I really like how the coir seems to stay a little more loose and doesn't compact. I'm guessing it allows more oxygen to the root zone than peat. I'm starting to mess with leaf mold too. Can't see myself using peat again if things keep rolling along smoothly.
 

Midwest Weedist

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The usual amendments. Kelp, alfalfa, crab shell, neem seed, oyster shell, rock fines, azomite, and gypsum. Haven't even needed a tea or anything lately.

I really like how the coir seems to stay a little more loose and doesn't compact. I'm guessing it allows more oxygen to the root zone than peat. I'm starting to mess with leaf mold too. Can't see myself using peat again if things keep rolling along smoothly.
Don't let it dry out, I have issues with it being severely hydrophobic when that happens. Even when using aloe vera in ridiculous ratios as a wetting agent it still doesn't want to soak it up. Other than that, I love the stuff. Even use it for gardening on occasion.
 

DonPetro

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The usual amendments. Kelp, alfalfa, crab shell, neem seed, oyster shell, rock fines, azomite, and gypsum. Haven't even needed a tea or anything lately.

I really like how the coir seems to stay a little more loose and doesn't compact. I'm guessing it allows more oxygen to the root zone than peat. I'm starting to mess with leaf mold too. Can't see myself using peat again if things keep rolling along smoothly.
We love the coco too and find it adds great structure to the soil mix. I bought a peat-based soil mix for the veggies and flowers and am not liking the compaction and how it leaves a gap all around the rim of the pot.
 

Midwest Weedist

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Soon, unless they're really thirsty I'd say within a week. Though I could be mistaken. I always harvest according to trichome head color. A whisp of amber on my indicas and mostly cloudy on my sativas, some hybrids will depend on calyx swell.
I do let my Scott's og go until they're about 30% amber, amazing sleep aid for an insomniac! Puts on more weight in some phenos too.
 

earthling420

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Soon, unless they're really thirsty I'd say within a week. Though I could be mistaken. I always harvest according to trichome head color. A whisp of amber on my indicas and mostly cloudy on my sativas, some hybrids will depend on calyx swell.
I do let my Scott's og go until they're about 30% amber, amazing sleep aid for an insomniac! Puts on more weight in some phenos too.
Nah they drinking less. I think you're right, cause they are coming up on 8 weeks. I need to check with a scope. Cant find it though. Thanks for your insight on trichome preference :) this is a hybrid it's purple diesel

Not sure why my cc died though :/
 

Midwest Weedist

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Nah they drinking less. I think you're right, cause they are coming up on 8 weeks. I need to check with a scope. Cant find it though. Thanks for your insight on trichome preference :) this is a hybrid it's purple diesel

Not sure why my cc died though :/
I got my jewlers loupe off of Amazon for like $20 w/ shipping if I remember correctly. I need to buy one of those digital "pen" style macro cameras. Itd be a lot easier to look at it on my computer blown up past 100x lol.
Anything to help! In my experience, if it's a hybrid that doesn't lean too far towards its sativa genetics in bud formation, you can get a really good idea by waiting for that time period where you can start to see the pistils receed back towards its calyces. It's usually a multi-day window where in which the trichomes will rapidly start to oxidize and turn amber, your leaves will start to hook upwards (similar to if they're cupping out of thrist), and the sugar leaves towards the top of the plants upper cola(s) will look almost golden if they're frosty enough and if you have good eyesight.

My cc dies back every so often. That's why I sow a lot and sow deep, plus I add a bit more seed every time I top dress with vermicompost.
 

hyroot

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We love the coco too and find it adds great structure to the soil mix. I bought a peat-based soil mix for the veggies and flowers and am not liking the compaction and how it leaves a gap all around the rim of the pot.

I use coco in my mix too. About 20%- 30% of the mix. I did 50/50 before but it dried out too fast. The roots grew too fast. A few10 gals , roots were growing out the bottom of the pot. That's hard to do indoor with 2 -3 month veg time.
 

Midwest Weedist

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Here's a shot of a Gluetrap lady that got the scissors yesterday at day 63. That Tony Greenhands sure can breed some winning genetics! Out of the four phenotypes I got as clones all ripened up on Day 63-64 with about 5% amber. These trichomes are large enough to tell color with the naked eye! One phenotype seems to want to go a bit longer though, still have mostly white pistils and zilch for amber trichomes, but seems to be almost all cloudy, so I'm thinking in about a week at the most she'll get cut. These ladies also SMELL, like smells so strong I can smell them drying from the hallway of my apartment a full floor below mine..

@hyroot Weren't you or a friend going to pop some of these soon?
 

hyroot

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@lemmy714 was going to. But there was a lot of hermie reports. And they dropped that strain from their menu so... he might not. Redeyed dropped almost all their strains though. Even Mt Rainier and every strain crossed with it. Their selection sucks now. They said they're keeping lockite .
 
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