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Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

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earthling420

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if my dirt went anaerobic, could I still dry it and cook properly?
Any organic growers growing shrooms? im gonna look into doing that soon been reading on it. Was just curious.
I also cant wait to build my own led light :)
Ch ch ch changes! Big things happening lol
 
DonTesla

DonTesla

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Mohican said:
I have also seen people use grow tents to control the RH. Closets and small closed areas will increase in humidity from the plant. My indoor space is very air-tight and stays right at 65% RH. I can dry forever in there and they never get harsh.

I had to use the hot dry sun last year to get some of the denser buds to dry!




Cheers,
Mo
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Mo, do you wanna rent me a chair to sleep on... I will securely watch those buds for you at night.. Lol
I will move to Cali and get a place so The Dons have a better winter set up..
How much to rent and or buy a 1200sq ft place around there.. We need to fix our winter blues buddy
 
DonTesla

DonTesla

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earthling420 said:
if my dirt went anaerobic, could I still dry it and cook properly?
Any organic growers growing shrooms? im gonna look into doing that soon been reading on it. Was just curious.
I also cant wait to build my own led light :)
Ch ch ch changes! Big things happening lol
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Get a Presto 23 qt pressure cooker off amazon and don't get spores til you have your setup, set up.. They go limp over time aka 60 days and no Viagra gonna help no matter how much ya pop..lol
I know someone who just wasted some spores going about it backwards..
 
Scotch089

Scotch089

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So I called my buddy that works at the hydro store and asked what I could do about gnats and after running off some at home remedies or products I could have in my arsenal (but dont) he recommended a product called Azomax to put in with my waterings to eliminate the larvae, he said it is just need oil diluted to a lower molecular weight so it doesn't build up in the soil which is great. But I am wondering if I should just buy neem oil and dilute it myself. Could this be more cost effecfive or give me a longer lasting supply like agsil vs protekt? Had anyone diluted their neem to use as a drench?
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Scotch089 said:
So I called my buddy that works at the hydro store and asked what I could do about gnats and after running off some at home remedies or products I could have in my arsenal (but dont) he recommended a product called Azomax to put in with my waterings to eliminate the larvae, he said it is just need oil diluted to a lower molecular weight so it doesn't build up in the soil which is great. But I am wondering if I should just buy neem oil and dilute it myself. Could this be more cost effecfive or give me a longer lasting supply like agsil vs protekt? Had anyone diluted their neem to use as a drench?
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Azamax is a concentrated neem essentially. Personally I'd have to have a terrible issue going on to drench my soil with it. I have used it in the past, but only as a foliar for mites and thrips.

What have you tried so far that isn't working?
 
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st0wandgrow

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Scotch089 said:
Shit that's the opposite of what he told me.. I have trieddddd NOTHING lol. Just want to kick em
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No offense to your buddy, but hydro store peeps aren't the best source for info. At least around here they aren't.

When I was battling fungus gnats I found that using some IPM's like neem seed meal and crab shell meal in my soil worked well. Also if you inoculate your soil with BTI bits that works well too. If you have an infestation right now buy some BTI bits and top dress some, and then lay out a few of those yellow stick traps to snag the adults.
 
Pattahabi

Pattahabi

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st0wandgrow said:
Azamax is a concentrated neem essentially. Personally I'd have to have a terrible issue going on to drench my soil with it. I have used it in the past, but only as a foliar for mites and thrips.

What have you tried so far that isn't working?
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Just to clarify, azamax is not really concentrated neem. It's an extraction of azadirachtin from the neem tree. Besides Azadirachtin there are several others (365 total) of which about 8% provide either insecticide or fungicide compounds (nimbin and salanin being the strongest pesticide from the tree). I always shake my head thinking if they haven't even identified all the compounds in neem, how the hell are they extracting one of those compounds and making it 'better than neem'?

I agree with Stow, drenching with azamax or neem would be a last ditch effort. I had root aphids once and tried it. I think the drench did more damage than the aphids.

P-
 
Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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Scotch089 said:
So I called my buddy that works at the hydro store and asked what I could do about gnats and after running off some at home remedies or products I could have in my arsenal (but dont) he recommended a product called Azomax to put in with my waterings to eliminate the larvae, he said it is just need oil diluted to a lower molecular weight so it doesn't build up in the soil which is great. But I am wondering if I should just buy neem oil and dilute it myself. Could this be more cost effecfive or give me a longer lasting supply like agsil vs protekt? Had anyone diluted their neem to use as a drench?
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Bti, neam/karanja meal and or top dress with enough sand to stop the annoying little buggers from laying their foul eggs.
 
Scotch089

Scotch089

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Thanks dudes. Excuse my naive mind but someone remind me what BTI is? Heard it thrown around before it'll be one of those "OOOO!" Moments. I want to avoid layering sand for top dressing and mixing it with the soil later on, my "infestation" isn't bad by Any means I'm just trying to stay ahead of the weather for when it warms up. I have 4-5 spotted at a time. Just don't want to have a headache roll around summer. I can top dress with neem meal obviously? My soils already cooked and ready I don't really want to amend the whole batch (would it need time to break down and If I did amend the whole batch with it would it deter the fuckers or only as topdress?) I should have bought some crab she'll meal when I bought my amendments. are these similar to anything else being how long they take to be available? I do still have 83 days till I'm able to grow my favorite plant.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Scotch089 said:
Thanks dudes. Excuse my naive mind but someone remind me what BTI is? Heard it thrown around before it'll be one of those "OOOO!" Moments. I want to avoid layering sand for top dressing and mixing it with the soil later on, my "infestation" isn't bad by Any means I'm just trying to stay ahead of the weather for when it warms up. I have 4-5 spotted at a time. Just don't want to have a headache roll around summer. I can top dress with neem meal obviously? My soils already cooked and ready I don't really want to amend the whole batch (would it need time to break down and If I did amend the whole batch with it would it deter the fuckers or only as topdress?) I should have bought some crab she'll meal when I bought my amendments. are these similar to anything else being how long they take to be available? I do still have 83 days till I'm able to grow my favorite plant.
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Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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I found a normal straw mulch will stop adults from laying eggs in your soil. So many ways to break the life cycle. A buddy of mine likes plastic mulch over his mulch, works a charm too. Looks a bit crazy when you lift the plastic though. Raw mycelium twisting over itself in that top layer. I don't like the look of it too fungal to look safe to me. Anything that dries quickly should work as a top dress. Just from my experience, don't try perlite... the stuff floats so when you water it can make some problems. Messy ones.
 
Mohican

Mohican

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I was trying to keep an experimental worm bin in a plastic trash can with no drainage. Not a good idea. No surviving worms and the soil stinks. I poured it out over the compost pile to let it get baked by the sun and broken down by the good bugs in the pile. Smelled like manure!

I keep watering it and letting it bake. I hope it can be saved.
 
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earthling420

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DonTesla said:
Get a Presto 23 qt pressure cooker off amazon and don't get spores til you have your setup, set up.. They go limp over time aka 60 days and no Viagra gonna help no matter how much ya pop..lol
I know someone who just wasted some spores going about it backwards..
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Thanks man. I'll do that.
Can you tell a difference between fresh shrooms and street sourced shrooms?
Ever encountered anything like my dirt going anaerobic?
Cheers
 
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