Pure psychedelic sativa 12/12 from seed 150W HPS grow

nice...bend snap tie twist

I have a slightly bigger HPS and MH but use CFL side lighting for my jalapenos and tomatoes and it works fantastic! Your grow is really good and I can't wait to see what you pull off! I love how ingenious people become to garden who would of never picked up a bag of dirt before. lol Make it legal worldwide I say so everyone can reap the benefits!

Kite High said:

nice...bend snap tie twist

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bend till it snaps and then twist it with a tie?

EasyPound said:

I have a slightly bigger HPS and MH but use CFL side lighting for my jalapenos and tomatoes and it works fantastic! Your grow is really good and I can't wait to see what you pull off! I love how ingenious people become to garden who would of never picked up a bag of dirt before. lol Make it legal worldwide I say so everyone can reap the benefits!

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I totally agree with you. Everyone could reap the benefits. But IMO that's exactly why they do not legalize it. It's not because it's a very bad thing to smoke, it's because that it does not profit anyone cause everybody can grow it by themselves not like tobacco or alcohol... Even here in NL, you are allowed to grow up to 5 plants per household but without artificial light and ferts. Now try to do that indoors lol..

Anyway, it's so much fun, I would grow even if I wouldn't smoke..

Yesterday when I came home I saw destroyer alr wilted, somehow she drank a lot, anyway after watering, this morning she was back to normal. However I saw some rusty spots on bottom leaves.. I guess mag def.. In this small container and after 1 month i'd say i should have expected this.
Also not sure if thats normal, but destroyer looks like she's already forming a cola.. Here's one closeup, not very clear, but you can see it's a bud site. I wonder if this can be true, cause the plant is still so small.. and zamal still does not have a single preflower.


EDIT: I went to Cannabiogen website and saw this in description of destroyer: Flowering period is from 8 to 12 weeks depending of growing conditions. So since it's 4 weeks into flower that makes sense then.. Zamal prob will take ~2-3 weeks longer

ah can't believe it... a week passed already and still no package... I wonder if there is such thing as "container coating" and "hps lamp check" on customs...
My plants stopped showing decent growth around this Sunday, my guess they got root bounded... now every day ticks in my head...
And I do not know whether I should plant them in untreated containers or should wait.. cause if tomorrow it will not arrive, then the next day is monday.. so another 4 days of waiting.. or maybe I can increase nutes or something to keep them in those 1gal containers..
Anyone got any suggestion?

some update..

Leaves are still small, both plants have side branches with 4 nodes alr. Dest is shooting stigmas through every new growth. Zamal still did not show any signs of them.
Dest showing some rusty spots on lower leaves. Two days ago watered with camg additive, looks like it's not progressing anymore. In total plants do not look that happy anymore.. I highly suspect those pots. Well will give another day, if coating will not arrive will transplant anyway. Here are some pics. 1-3 Zamal from different angles, 4-7 Dest with two forming colas.
Zamal


Dest

looks like they getting a bit too hot and maybe high rh?

Kite High said:

looks like they getting a bit too hot and maybe high rh?

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hmm, my rh rarely goes over 40% unless i hang some laundry then it bets to 43-46, but only for few hours. usually its 36.. but u might be right with the temp.. last few days temp raised outside, so that affected my room as well, at night is alright, ~65F, but at a daytime it gets to 85-89.. ill try to raise the lamps and put the ballast out of the room..
thanks Kite for your eagle eye, was worrying about transplanting that even did not consider any other factors lol

When the lose that perkiness it's usually high temps, high rh, or overwatering

good to know, raised my lamp, got the ballast out of the room. Now even if a fan is blowing at them, temps of ~89F are inside of the pot, at the top probably was way more.. Well hopefully they'll show some appreciation. Thank man

I really doubt about rh. Overwatering is also not very likely the case, since the pots are very airy and quite light, I water them every two days. When I left a plant for 3 days after work I found Dest wilting, after watering next day it was cheerful again. But yes 4 days ago temps raised from 70-80 to 80-90, at the top prob even more.. Does not look like that fan blows all the heat away..

Well will see whether girls will react to lower temp. I'm pretty sure they will

If your rootzone gets too hot it's going to make the plants look overwatered no matter what because the solubility of O2 in water drops like a stone as temps rise.

MrEDuck said:

If your rootzone gets too hot it's going to make the plants look overwatered no matter what because the solubility of O2 in water drops like a stone as temps rise.

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thanks man, good tip, at the bottom of the pot temps are around 74. at the top of the pot its 80, in another few inches it raises up to 85 I guess.. now I opened grow room doors and a roof window, will check maximum and minimum temp after I'll get back from work..

It's usually more of a problem in water cultures but it can happen in soil and soilless systems especially in smaller containers. It can be an issue for me because my veg tub because plants are in party cups and they warm up as the plants drink.

finally today weather cooled down a bit outside.. temps dropped to 79-80 during the light hours.. Still don't know how I am going to handle this. This morning I transplanted Zamaldelica into 5gal pot. in a pic you can see how all of the branches are reaching for the pot edges. Destroyer I left for one more day just in case they are going to deliver my package on Monday, if not, I will be transplanting her as well on Monday after work. Most of Dest shoots are covered in stigmas. Here are some pics of them.
Zamal


Dest

sup beibz..

today I got so irritated by those hps stripes in photos so I went to google and searched for "iphone hps photo". Almighty google! as always, somebody did tht before.. In one forum the suggestion was - use 3d polarized glasses as a filter. And guess what - voila.. I just happened to have some 3d glasses around. Since in local movie theater you do not need to return glasses, I collected like 7 of them in case I'll buy some LG tv with passive 3d(prob not lol). Well what do you know, I just had to strech my arm backwards to reach for them. You can see the difference of pictures. Not perfect, but wayyyy better.. Especially when you have only phone which does not have adjustable shutter speed or cannot save pics in raw format.


here is some closer look of Dest and its bud sites.



As you can see all shoots have stigmas sticking out, so my question do you think it is still going to stretch like mad? I was thinking that because it's already made quite a lot of flowers, maybe stretching for this one is already over or close to being over so I would not need to LST it anymore? now LSTed Dest is like 6-7" height so even if it would increase in size 4 times I'd still would be able to keep her in that room.
With zamal it's a different story, since she still have no sign of preflowersso so will keep on my plant to keep her low.

Let me know what you guys think, thanks

I've seen sativas that will grow to 5' when flowered as 6" clones. Circling the pot after topping should keep it manageable though. If you could get like the first ring of a tomato cage and let them grow up and around that you could get a really tall plant in a small space.

yeah I hear you man, but, you are talking when a sativa strain becomes 5 foot when switched to flowering from clone. Destroyer is 4weeks and 2 days in 12/12 already and its still maintained in 7" height, its top leaflets looks like are starting to degrade from 7 blades to 5. Also plant is covered with bud sites.
So my point is, that it is not going to stretch like 5 feet because it is already maintained, prob it's so small because of small container, underwatering and heat stress it had lately and therefore was stunned... at least from what i've seen in my previous grows, that once colas start forming and leaf blades on it start to decrease in number, the stretching slows and colas continue on building slowly..

but then again, I've never grown pure sativa, so I have no idea what I'm dealing with.. I'm just wondering when the plant approximately will stop stretching and will only work on growing buds and what signs I should look for to predict that.

OMG finally. that poor little box arrived... well it used to be a box at least..


haha and here is something that will keep me in my garden tonight!


kk, no time for talking. laters!

Have a good time, crack a brew or take a hit and put your new toys to use

Sub'd. Lookin' good, man! Keep it up. I'm a little behind you at 13 days into 12/12.

EasyPound said:

Have a good time, crack a brew or take a hit and put your new toys to use

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no tokietokies, had to do tht clearheaded as I had only 1 hour before lights went off..

g00sEgg said:

Sub'd. Lookin' good, man! Keep it up. I'm a little behind you at 13 days into 12/12.

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thanks man, glad to get positive feedback from veteran smokers )

ok so now update.

First of all.. OMG CMH is wayyyy over HPS, was worth waiting Jesus such a beautiful color, the room got lit with 3000K but in a HPS way, instead of 2000K that I had before.

A bit disappointed with the timing, cause still placed Destroyer 1 our later after lights went off. Tried to work in darker place, but still Dest got a bit of extended daytime. Anyway, what's done is done, lets get back to business.

I made some cages so I could train them easier, can't believe that I did not think about it as a solution before.. Thanks MrEDuck for suggestion. While being in a hurry forgot to make a pic of transplanted Destroyer but there's always tomorrow. Hopefully... Cause the transplanting went quite aggressively, 3 gal pot was more difficult to cover with cage, cause dest alr outgrew it. Will show you tomorrow, but I'm positive about it.

Was planting in a pot where previously SLH grew. WOW. After I shook all of the soil out of SLH roots, some of the roots were 36" long. omg one meter. This is where microkote should really help a lot with root branching instead of spinning.. Will be interesting to compare root balls after harvest.

Here's a pic of Zamal in jail and Dest roots taken from one gallon pot.