Pure psychedelic sativa 12/12 from seed 150W HPS grow

simisimis

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and light and ventilation and proper temps and proper rh...all of it brother...you have to have all conditions at optimum
oh yeah and those :)))
i just went through my previous grows and checked how my 14days plants looked, these ones 5 days vegged, 10days 12/12 and still alr 2 times bigger than previous plants. radical change is ventilator blowing at them and hps running in a background...
 

simisimis

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well I am thinking between this:
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this is a scheme after topping.
1. On the left is if I would lst after first set of shoots and then let it grow (12 shoots in total)
2. On the right - is after I would get first set of shoots i would top the rest and let only side branches grow (8 shoots).
3. Not in the scheme: if I would just let those 4 colas grow.

well most of all I like number 2. in that case I would have 8 shorter colas. if I would have enough vertical space probably I would go for 3 option, since plant is in flowering and extra topping and LSTing is not a thing I would like plants to experience..
if this would be c99, I would manage to make number 1 with fine results, a nice bush, but if those strains would react like Super Lemon Haze, I could not do sht for them with lst...
so I am a bit at a loss.. If I would know how much it will stretch would be easier to chose from.

Two things that make me doubt about 2nd option:
a. I do not know if it is a good idea to top the plant 2nd time cause it is in flowering and I believe 1st topping will be already painful.
b. is it really going to stretch that much so I cannot go with 4 main colas?

Or this is a thing I would like not to, but if I have to I would be willing to move out to another room. But that would be a worst case scenario.

What do you think guys about those options?
Note: I have only 2.5 feet of vertical space that plant can use to stretch(excluding roots/pot).
 

simisimis

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so... plants got executed yesterday. Destroyer is showing some real passion to grow :) Zamal is also doing quite nice. I topped them yesterday 1 hour before dark period and this morning 30min after lights went on I saw that side branches have already got bigger...
upper top: zamal
lower top: dest
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Destroyer:
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Zamaldelica:
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And my new training plan :)))
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My CMH is alr waiting in UK for microkote, while microkote has been seen in Cincinnati yesterday. Hopefully next week I am going to get my items.

Peace!
 

simisimis

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Looking good sim. Looks like you'll be doing some LST in no time.
Things are looking good, are you going for the swastika look with your training plan :lol:
haha thanks guys. Yeah that's what a joke(pic) was about. In my country it's considered bad to joke about it, but oh well.. can't be living in a fear of some symbol.. it's history.

Anyway, now when I think more about it, I see that it might be most effective pattern.. although this is not concrete cause you can plan to train on all the patterns in the world, but plant will just say no to them like it happened for me with slh lol
 

simisimis

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I add a bit(2-3ml/L) of GK organics seaweed, but I do not give any nutes yet, except for this additive.. soil has some ferts in it as well... I will be waiting at least for chute leaves to die off and then will try to read the plant..
 

hopeyougotadutch

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Yea, I'm ready for any possible nitrogen deficiency for next run. Did you just add the seaweed or was it added before planting? or....
 

simisimis

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Yea, I'm ready for any possible nitrogen deficiency for next run. Did you just add the seaweed or was it added before planting? or....
hopefully I'm also ready :) I added seaweed myself since I bought it running around desperately trying to solve problems that did not exist. Well according to a paper whats written on the bottle:

Seaweed Liquid is made ​​of cold processed seaweed that is good for plants and soil. Seaweed Liquid is a natural plant booster that improves the growth of the roots and the leaves resulting in larger flowers and fruits. Additionally Seaweed Liquid reduces stress when the plant is repotted. Liquid Seaweed may well be used in combination with all types of nutrients. Liquid Seaweed is used in the garden, and potting soil or other mediums.
2-5 ml per liter, give 1x per week with the water. Start with 2 ml per liter when it comes to seedlings and young plants and finish with 5ml per liter when it comes to adult plants.
but then again, on big mikes Advanced Nutrient ripoff crap it says that they are the best... 35eu for rhino skin potassium silicate 1% of actual thing while less than $15 cots 7.8% Dyna-Gro pro-tekt. so the only phrase on a bottle saying that I can use that as an additive with regular feeding I took as true thing and will see if that will make any effect on my kiddos. When buying this I thought I am going to solve all of my trace elements problems in that soil, however there is not even msds listing of what that liquid seaweed contains so.. nute based on placebo effect I guess.

Today I found in one dynagro distributor webpage dyna-gro folliage pro, cal-mag and pro-tekt. I saw it already, but buying 8oz bottle for 6 pounds and paying 18 for delivery was not acceptable, but I saw that all three 8oz bottles together with shipping cost 36 pounds.. now that's a bit better.. might be considering on ordering that.

So I add those 2-3 ml per liter just in case it actually does affect root growth..
 

Kite High

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I add a bit(2-3ml/L) of GK organics seaweed, but I do not give any nutes yet, except for this additive.. soil has some ferts in it as well... I will be waiting at least for chute leaves to die off and then will try to read the plant..
just go lightly on the nutes...like 1/4 dose...do not depend on the seaweed to provide much...is ok additive but will not provide enough of anything on its own
 

simisimis

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just go lightly on the nutes...like 1/4 dose...do not depend on the seaweed to provide much...is ok additive but will not provide enough of anything on its own
so you say I should already start giving 1/4th of grow food and not wait till the plant will start showing deficiencies?

Yeah I was not depending on a seaweed, I was just putting in some 2ml/L according to the instructions that start with 2ml from seedling and increase gradually till harvest up to 5ml/L. Do you think I also should give like less than 1ml/L for starters?
Thanks
 

simisimis

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thanks Kite, everyday a new tip, if not posted on my thread, then on somebody else's :)
Greatly appreciate it!
 

MrEDuck

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I'm subbed to watch this, I love the long flowering sativas. LST can keep plants really compact and let you get the most out of that light.
 
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