Pretty certain I have nutrient lockout. What next?

NugHeuser

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I have been amazed at the fact that after a few years growing the same way I have larger better yielding more potent plants and use almost half the fertilizer I used to.

They need way less than most use. I also have found it better to give lower doses each watering.

Same basic math. If my plant can take 20 ml a week without stress I would prefer to give her 10 ml every 3 days at each watering.

Allows me to lower or raise the doses as needed each watering. Lessens turn around time with fuck ups too.
Yeah I'm keeping it simple with nutes from here on out.
 

NugHeuser

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They were both trained to 30” x 30” x 30” aproximately. They had many big tops. One looser and huge. One dense and nuggety.

These phenos were similar to 10 or so week finishers I have grown packs of. They took 11 and 13.5.

The quality as far as frost smell taste and potency were both great. The widow cross is super frosty. I have shown it in the frostiest buds thread.

But the deficiency definitely hurt the bud structure. The dense bud plant has much smaller buds now dried out. And the other is looser than I like to see for a 70/30 or so sativa heavy hybrid.

Here they are. Leaves were already taken off during harvest. This is with a flash in my kitchen before we cut the branches for hanging.
I'm curious, do you defoliate at all? Them nugs run pretty deep
 

MichiganMedGrower

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I'm curious, do you defoliate at all? Them nugs run pretty deep

Not at all unless a plant is finished with one and it snaps right off.

Or I fuck up and they defoliate themselves. Lol.

Seriously most of my plants are green and have even their single baby leaves at harvest still.

I don’t know where the myths and arguments come from on these forums but defoliation and lower pruning is to increase airflow. Each bud doesn’t need direct light. That’s rediculous and I prove it every plant. It’s mostly genetic and if you can keep the plant happy enough to reach its potential.

This is assuming there is adequate light to grow in the first place.
 

NugHeuser

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Not at all unless a plant is finished with one and it snaps right off.

Or I fuck up and they defoliate themselves. Lol.

Seriously most of my plants are green and have even their single baby leaves at harvest still.

I don’t know where the myths and arguments come from on these forums but defoliation and lower pruning is to increase airflow. Each bud doesn’t need direct light. That’s rediculous and I prove it every plant. It’s mostly genetic and if you can keep the plant happy enough to reach its potential.

This is assuming there is adequate light to grow in the first place.
Right on man. I'll keep that in mind. That's pretty damn good to still have them baby leaves at harvest. That's what you call flawless :clap:
 

NugHeuser

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2 were leached tonight. Both down to 500 ppms, I didnt add any nutes at the end, water was still slightly yellow so I want to see what they do with that.
Alien rift #8 and malibu pie #6.
 

NugHeuser

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MP#9 was leached 2 days ago with 2 gallons, still finished with almost 1100 ppm, still pretty yellow, if not more yellow, but the crazy thing is she's almost dry already :shock: she will probably need watered tomorrow.

Do plants with nute lock still drink heavily?
 

MichiganMedGrower

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MP#9 was leached 2 days ago with 2 gallons, still finished with almost 1100 ppm, still pretty yellow, if not more yellow, but the crazy thing is she's almost dry already :shock: she will probably need watered tomorrow.

Do plants with nute lock still drink heavily?

No. But salt buildup isn’t automatically nute lock. Specific nutes like calcium get blocked out first.
 

NugHeuser

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So I've got some weird whitish gray spots on leaves popping up randomly, some leaf discoloring and curled tips. Any idea what these might be? Temps have been down to about 81 for highs and rh about 50%.

Looks like some of the smaller spots are either light bleaching or ph instability? And I read that the curled tips can be mag deficiency and that you will also see interveinal chlorosis, which I have no idea what that is but maybe that's the spots and I'm having a mag deficiency?
 

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The ph of the runoff is between 6.26 and 6.3
I must ask, how do you get such tight pH readings? I just checked mine and got 6.32, 6.48, 6.39, 6.56, 6.29, 6.61, 6.26, 6.23, 6.49
I have 3 different meters. They all bounce the readings up and down right before my eyes.
 
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