POLL: Income Tax

Would you pay an income tax if there was no law forcing you to?

  • YES

    Votes: 5 14.7%

  • NO

    Votes: 29 85.3%
  • Total voters
    34
londonfog

londonfog

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Mr Neutron said:
I didn't vote in 2010, so I am still correct in saying that I do not use any of the services on that list. You call me a dummy but it is you who thinks that things like Medicare, SS, police, firemen, roads, schools, etc, etc, etc... are paid for with income tax dollars.
Keep trying, this is fun.
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Payroll taxes are the state and federal taxes that me, as an employer, are required to withhold and/or to pay on behalf of my employees. I am required to withhold state and federal income taxes as well as social security and Medicare taxes from my employees wages....police,fireman,roads,public schools etc,etc,etc all use federal subsidies which are federal tax dollars...No need for me to try ..you make it very easy...and yes it is fun....hey don't forget the internet was create by the help of federal tax dollars...you still using it...lol
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Mr Neutron said:
Sorry but this thread is about "Income Taxes". It has nothing to do with roads, bridges, police, firemen, schools, etc. A lot of things are paid for with taxes, there is no denying that. But some here, who cannot defend their position reasonably and rationally, prefer to exaggerate my position and put words in my mouth. Coupled with the inability to discuss such matters without resorting to name calling, I submit that I am right, yet again.
It really is hard to stay humble when I am right all the time.
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This thread is about Income Taxes in which I showed how we all benefit from them...sorry if the truth hurts, but don't start a thread if you can't handle the conversation from the opposite view point..
 
Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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londonfog said:
Payroll taxes are the state and federal taxes that me, as an employer, are required to withhold and/or to pay on behalf of my employees. I am required to withhold state and federal income taxes as well as social security and Medicare taxes from my employees wages....police,fireman,roads,public schools etc,etc,etc all use federal subsidies which are federal tax dollars...No need for me to try ..you make it very easy...and yes it is fun....hey don't forget the internet was create by the help of federal tax dollars...you still using it...lol
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Look, you obviously have no idea what is going on and you are trying to pin something on me because of you frustration in your inability to debate the issue intelligently. Not all states have an income tax, some people are not employees but are self-employed and pay the FULL share of their SS instead of relying on their employer to pay half. You read into things that are not there. You think income taxes=all revenues. You think because of what I believe that I am right-wing. If you are going to act like a spoiled child, then go to your room and don't come out until you are ready to act like an adult.
 
Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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londonfog said:
This thread is about Income Taxes in which I showed how we all benefit from them...sorry if the truth hurts, but don't start a thread if you can't handle the conversation from the opposite view point..
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So, we didn't have elections before 1914?
 
londonfog

londonfog

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sure we did just paid for it differently...remeber not everyone could vote back in those days...why you want to go back to those times ???
 
Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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FEC budget around $64M for about 200M eligible voters comes out to around $.32 per eligible voter. Even if I voted in every election ever held, what's that... less than $50. I think I've paid enough in the past to cover that and then some.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Mr Neutron said:
FEC budget around $64M for about 200M eligible voters comes out to around $.32 per eligible voter. Even if I voted in every election ever held, what's that... less than $50. I think I've paid enough in the past to cover that and then some.
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ok....my debate is we all have to pay income taxes to assure that our country can run and continue to give us benefits like voting in an election...If no one had to pay income tax then nobody but a few would...Most of the things that we all use would go away and make this place like a 3rd world country...I don't want that I like flying on planes,drinking water out my tap. going to the library with my kids, riding my bike on pave roads etc etc etc....your argument should be how can we fix government to spend our tax money wisely and not waste it..saying out right to not pay your way is out right foolishness
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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I don't pay tax for my own reasons. Largely being i'm not gonna pay to have civilians killed and meddle with stuff that has nothing to do with us, costing us an absolute fortune, money we don't have, all while fucking over nearly every child in the country. I don't recognise their authority, my tax money will be going to the woodland preservation society, i believe that the WPS are the legitimate interlocutor of the aspirations of the British people.

Let's just keeping making the rich and corrupt and treasonous that little bit fatter though :)
 
Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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londonfog said:
ok....my debate is we all have to pay income taxes to assure that our country can run and continue to give us benefits like voting in an election...If no one had to pay income tax then nobody but a few would...Most of the things that we all use would go away and make this place like a 3rd world country...I don't want that I like flying on planes,drinking water out my tap. going to the library with my kids, riding my bike on pave roads etc etc etc....your argument should be how can we fix government to spend our tax money wisely and not waste it..saying out right to not pay your way is out right foolishness
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If you want those things that are NOT the governments responsibility, the YOU pay for them, don't make everybody pay for what YOU want. The government has revenue other than income taxes and if they can't run the government on those revenues, then it's time to put people in office who can.
And what is this about 3rd world country? You really like to throw the crap, don't you? You don't know that. Scare tactics, the same that Geithner and the MSM is using now.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Mr Neutron said:
If you want those things that are NOT the governments responsibility, the YOU pay for them, don't make everybody pay for what YOU want. The government has revenue other than income taxes and if they can't run the government on those revenues, then it's time to put people in office who can.
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Man you can't be this dumb...We all use these services at one point or another...EVEN YOU !!!!
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Mr Neutron said:
You read into that what you want. I know how you think and you're wrong.
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well you said it not me...You have to realize the full scope of the things you say..I personally would not like to go back to 1914 constitionally at all..for the reason of what was not in the constitution at that time...
 
Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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londonfog said:
Man you can't be this dumb...We all use these services at one point or another...EVEN YOU !!!!
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At one time, yes. I paid income taxes at one time, too. I do not use any of the services now, so why should I be on the hook for them? Just because you and your other misguided freedom haters can get your government security blanket? No thanks!
 
londonfog

londonfog

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tip toker have you seen the list with 102 things your taxes pay for before you say you never use them ???

edit..DUDE WTF do you live in the UK ???
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Mr Neutron said:
At one time, yes. I paid income taxes at one time, too. I do not use any of the services now, so why should I be on the hook for them? Just because you and your other misguided freedom haters can get your government security blanket? No thanks!
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tell you what become a Mexican citizen then you have no worries..
 
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