Pinworm's 600w RDWC Horrorshow (WWxBB Mainlined - NL5xHaze, Purple Fire, Sour Diesel)
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SxIstew
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Just as a reminder to everyone. Please do not kill animals for a grow location. Scare them away with a deterrent. Do not lay out poison with feed or anything stupid like that. Other animals live out there and will not always harm your grows.
Pin- yeah even just have him rent you some for a couple months. pop them out end of winter. and pull them weekly to check what's up.
If you have good access without making it apparent that you are going to the same spot over and over. Don't draw unwanted attention to the area(s) in question.
As for the island. No tides. it's on a freshwater pond. lol.... It's actually untouchable for 3/4ths of the grow season. I can only make it to the island by foot in the beginning of April and the end of October.
There are no boats allowed on the water there.
I have chest high waders so if needed I can go out and check them out. but It'd be very dangerous in the summer unless we are in a drought.
I will pump water out of the pond for the plants. It's clean water and full of fish. so I guess it's healthy.
. Going to use my Excelerite for them to get the micro nutes needed. and also going to use the P3 on them as well. I will not have to nute them throughout veg with both those products being used with the pond water.I'm gonna get a PPM tester to see what that water level is actually at.
If anyone knows the answer please assist:
How can I calculate how much of each N-P-K is in it?
Pinworm
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Thanks, Stew.
Here's a calculator I used in combo with the LF formula, but I think it gives you percentages as well: Nutrient profile calculator
Look at the likes. I win RIU!
SxIstew
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I'm going to try to calculate the nutrient content of the pond water. Will that help? lol
Pinworm
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Doh! :::facepalm::: Misunderstood you. Great question though. I would venture to guess the levels would be pretty low, unless your pulling water from super close to the siltier areas. Lot's more minerals, fish poo, and stuff like that at the bottom. Honestly, I don't think theres a meter out there (at least that I can find) that can read your Nitrogen, Potassium, or Phosphorous levels. Maybe you could have tests run on the water by, say, a lab with a mass spectrometer? Collect a sample of the water your going to use next time you're out there just in case. Maybe you can find someone in your area that does that sort of thing. Sorry I couldn't be any more help.
If anyone here knows how to calculate the N-P-K properties of a water source or can point us in the right direction as far as having testing done, feel free to take us to school. (+rep)
If anyone here knows how to calculate the N-P-K properties of a water source or can point us in the right direction as far as having testing done, feel free to take us to school. (+rep)
SxIstew
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That is the plan. Dropping a 25-30 foot hose down into the water, attaching it to a solar powered water pump. Not this big, but a general Idea
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That way no electricity is needed, AND It should water my plants the whole time I can't get out there... the water flowing into the moat will be the only thing visible with binoculars from the other side of the pond. I'm doing it so that I can just go fishing and check on the water pump without going out there. If a problem comes up and water stops flowing for some reason, waders, myself, and a friend go for a "midnight fishing trip" to fix the problem.
That way no electricity is needed, AND It should water my plants the whole time I can't get out there... the water flowing into the moat will be the only thing visible with binoculars from the other side of the pond. I'm doing it so that I can just go fishing and check on the water pump without going out there. If a problem comes up and water stops flowing for some reason, waders, myself, and a friend go for a "midnight fishing trip" to fix the problem.
JohnnySocko
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what, weed is deer resistant? 
SxIstew
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I'm pretty sure they love vegging cannabis. But budding cannabis is left alone.what, weed is deer resistant?
I'm not 100% as I said I do not grow outdoors. this is simply word of mouth information.
JohnnySocko
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so how does one prevent some primo bud being converted to venison? or does one accept that outdoor growing places ones plants into the food chain and that's that?
Pinworm
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It's more than likely going to happen no matter what. That is, unless you take preventitive measures like the guys mentioned. Fox/Bear piss. I've even heard of motion sensors that emit a high frequency squeal that scares the crap out of animals when they come within a certain radius. I wouldn't be worried about deer totally destroying a crop, however, as in my experience with watching them, they'll only take what they need and move on. A little foliage off of a few 6 foot tall plants would'nt create too many problems. Most likely they would bounce right back.
Marijuana had been growing wild for thousands of years before we decided to cultivate it for our use, and it did fine. I would be more concerned with pests/insects. I need to take samples of bug life out in my scouted locations to see what I'll be comabtting.
JohnnySocko
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so true ... and then again, nature even takes care of most pest: they used to beg us in Phoenix not to use all the bug sprays and shit.....all you basically did was kill off the spiders, scorpions and lizards and got pest anyway, even worse (once I quit spraying, lizards & spiders came back and I saw zero difference in pest) ... I would think the worst would be Jap beetles, aphids and tent caterpillars
JohnnySocko
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along those lines; I wonder if human piss has any effect? you could also keep some binoculars and say you are bird watching
budbro18
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Ive tried human piss and human hair and they both dont work. Even peed in a bottle and let it sit and get nice and ripe.
They probably used to work but deer are so used to people by now that they disregard those smells as "predator". Id say only way to insure your shit wont get chomped is some sort of fence. Ive heard of the wolf and bear piss working but ive also heard it doesnt work so well to the more "domesticated" deer, if you will. haha
Also make sure if youre planting right into the ground that the spot youre digging doesnt have alot of bugs in the dirt. Even if theyre beneficial.
We couldnt figure out why our one plant kept getting dug up. It was only one and it was everytime we replanted it itd get dug up and almost placed next to the original hole. (this was before it rooted out of its mini coco pot)
So we were puttin it back one day and noticed a ton of potato bugs and realized it must be a raccoon or something similar diggin it up for the bugs underneath.
They probably used to work but deer are so used to people by now that they disregard those smells as "predator". Id say only way to insure your shit wont get chomped is some sort of fence. Ive heard of the wolf and bear piss working but ive also heard it doesnt work so well to the more "domesticated" deer, if you will. haha
Also make sure if youre planting right into the ground that the spot youre digging doesnt have alot of bugs in the dirt. Even if theyre beneficial.
We couldnt figure out why our one plant kept getting dug up. It was only one and it was everytime we replanted it itd get dug up and almost placed next to the original hole. (this was before it rooted out of its mini coco pot)
So we were puttin it back one day and noticed a ton of potato bugs and realized it must be a raccoon or something similar diggin it up for the bugs underneath.
ak90
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Perfect.....
Pinworm
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The deer around here are extremely curious, especially around rutting season. Biggest I've seen in my back yard was a 4 pointer. It was last year I think. My poor pup doesn't know what to make of them half the time. I'll definitely need to lay hands on some Bear pee. Saw some at Cabela's for like $10. Worth it for sure. May even snag some of those motion detecting screamers I mentioned.
Sometimes, I'll see a skinny one cruise by (which is rare) and lay out some of the cracked corn that I use to distill my 180 proof popskull. I'm a total sucker for animals, and can remember adopting dogs, cats, anything that needed a home when I was a kid. It drove my parents nuts.
So, I've been thinking a lot about next year's outdoor plans a lot after talking with you guys about this stuff. Thanks for all the great info so far, by the way. As I said, It's given me a lot to think about. I'm on the fence about using Garbage cans/Big big buckets or just plugging them directly into the ground. If I do choose to go with the ground, I'll be taking a few steps to ensure I get the best results for my work.
Most likely will dig 2-3ft holes and lay boards at the base, cover with river rock, fill with some cooked organic soil, then cover with mulch. On my hike the other day, I dug about 4ft down, and couldn't find any hardpan. Good news. This is making me lean towards that method for a couple reasons. 1 - I'll be able to sleep soundly knowing it's much less conspicuous than 8-10 garbage cans sitting there, and 2 - I won't worry that the roots are getting baked. I'll have to spend money on a irrigation pump no matter what, but still deciding if I want to pull water directly from the river, or dig a reservoir and install some pond liner. The latter would be less conspicuous IMO.
Cooked organic soil, with some dolomite lime to keep the pH balanced would be ideal for me. It'll take some work to cook a big enough batch of soil to get the amount I'll need but, I have plenty of time. Still a few things to work out, but I'm a lot more prepared than I was two days ago! Thanks for your insights, my dudes. I appreciate the feedback.
1-2 pounds (0.5 - 0.003 cm3) of Dolomite Lime to each cubic foot (0.003cm3) of soil.
*1 cubic yard = 27 cubic feet (1m3 = 106cm3) (1 cubic yard = 105cm3)
I want to see if my buddy will lend me his night vision goggles for the growing season. I think making night trips will cut down on attention substantialy. It would be totally badass to get to play ninja, too. One thing that I already have is my guard dog. I don't go anywhere without her. Come near my crop, and she'll attack you with puppy lovem's. Sit boo-boo! Dassuhgoodgirl.
Sometimes, I'll see a skinny one cruise by (which is rare) and lay out some of the cracked corn that I use to distill my 180 proof popskull. I'm a total sucker for animals, and can remember adopting dogs, cats, anything that needed a home when I was a kid. It drove my parents nuts.
So, I've been thinking a lot about next year's outdoor plans a lot after talking with you guys about this stuff. Thanks for all the great info so far, by the way. As I said, It's given me a lot to think about. I'm on the fence about using Garbage cans/Big big buckets or just plugging them directly into the ground. If I do choose to go with the ground, I'll be taking a few steps to ensure I get the best results for my work.
Most likely will dig 2-3ft holes and lay boards at the base, cover with river rock, fill with some cooked organic soil, then cover with mulch. On my hike the other day, I dug about 4ft down, and couldn't find any hardpan. Good news. This is making me lean towards that method for a couple reasons. 1 - I'll be able to sleep soundly knowing it's much less conspicuous than 8-10 garbage cans sitting there, and 2 - I won't worry that the roots are getting baked. I'll have to spend money on a irrigation pump no matter what, but still deciding if I want to pull water directly from the river, or dig a reservoir and install some pond liner. The latter would be less conspicuous IMO.
Cooked organic soil, with some dolomite lime to keep the pH balanced would be ideal for me. It'll take some work to cook a big enough batch of soil to get the amount I'll need but, I have plenty of time. Still a few things to work out, but I'm a lot more prepared than I was two days ago! Thanks for your insights, my dudes. I appreciate the feedback.
1-2 pounds (0.5 - 0.003 cm3) of Dolomite Lime to each cubic foot (0.003cm3) of soil.
*1 cubic yard = 27 cubic feet (1m3 = 106cm3) (1 cubic yard = 105cm3)
I want to see if my buddy will lend me his night vision goggles for the growing season. I think making night trips will cut down on attention substantialy. It would be totally badass to get to play ninja, too. One thing that I already have is my guard dog. I don't go anywhere without her. Come near my crop, and she'll attack you with puppy lovem's. Sit boo-boo! Dassuhgoodgirl.
JohnnySocko
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wonder who has the job of collecting bear pee? and I thought my job sucked 