PGR’s

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Kushthemagictree

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What foliar ratio are you mixing your Triacontanol at?

are you mixing any nutes for the foliar or just the Triacontanol as foliar?
Early on for vegative growth i made a mix up of distilled water and added some tricontanol and the ppm’s was around 20 for further on nearer flowering stage and first 2/3 weeks i upped the amount and added some seaweed fert and the ppm’s around 200 but i also used tap water that was left put for 48 hours minimum, i’m in a hard water area and prefer to do this rather than go down the reverse osmosis route.

i’m currently growing some growers choice fat hog X bubblegum and more or less used this grow to experiment with organic feeds, tricontenal and also cytokin.
I find both increased the overall growth rate of plant in vegation phase and some thing i’ll carry on using as it sped the actuall vegatation process up.
I’ve stopped with the root feed of using triacontental and next grow i’ll just use the foliar feed method. Find the plants prefers this to a root food.
 

Kushthemagictree

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I think it's time to stop spreading nonsense. What PGR's do you actually mean? If you're bashing, do you have any actual knowledge and experience regarding PGR's and their use?

You know practically every nutrient manufacturer has PGR's in their formulas? Either natural, mimetic or fully synthetic. You have Kelp, Yucca, Triacontanol, chitosan oligosaccharide, all those are natural PGR and/or phytohormones.

Don't bash and spread misinformation about something you clearly don't understand.

OT: I use TRIA and brassinolide on all my crops. I like BAP on dialed in crops. Gonna experiment with chitosan in the near future. Even regular amino acids act as PGR's when sprayed as foliar. Where do you personally draw the line? I actually look at the numbers and what's safe practices.

Biggest problems is PGR's that's only used for profit and not to better quality and richness.
i think theirs lots of mis information out there regarding PGR’s mate, many just know the usual scare storys, ruins crops, it makes bud shite ect ect. Of course from my knowledge and admittedly i’m no expert in PGR’s the sythetic versions or certain ones can and will give you rock hard buds that look very diffrent to buds grown with out these added PGR’s, saying all that i’ve seen many grows, diarys and others use some of the popular brands which no doubt contain some of these sythetics and their buds look normal so theirs definately better sythetics out there or ones that suppliers use more over others.
I prefer the traicontanol which is a by product of beeswax, i’ve enjoyed using them and i dont see any adverse effects and they actually improved vegative stage and the length of time i needed to veg. Also noticed more outward growth bushier plante and they looked healthy through all stages
 

Kushthemagictree

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I see some one added a laughing emoji to nearly most my posts, why dont you elaborate on whats amusing, if its the information i share then why dont you correct it, or share you’re knowledge on the subject hopefully you more informed than me and done the research to correct me. If not maybe find another place to hang out if you aint got shit to add
 

pulpoinspace

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looking for new exotic items to increase yield/potency is a sure sign you don't know how to use the basic items you have already.
 

bk78

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I wouldn't use them myself but if you're going to don't pay insane prices for premixed solutions. Mix them yourself.

Just plain old kelp extract does wonders. No need for any other shit, organic or synthetic.
 

Kushthemagictree

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Hey bros

pgr are bad

See the buds

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So you been laughing at my posts then proceed to post this when i asked you to elaborate.
Mate thats a generic photo found with a google search and as i’ve previously stated some PGR’s are to stay away from, and them pictures one of the reasons. But all that said and a bit research and looking in to it further there’s other products out there that dont have the ssme effects, the bud normal looking, not airy, not rock hard, not abnormal ect ect

alot of these products are not sythetic and are found in other substabces one being beeswax, not sure on all the fancy labelled products out there but alot do contain added PGR’s and i would reccomend buyers wanting to use them to ask manafaturer the ingredients in said products before using them. This way we know exactly what we adding.
Not all PGR’s are bad !
 

bk78

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So you been laughing at my posts then proceed to post this when i asked you to elaborate.
Mate thats a generic photo found with a google search and as i’ve previously stated some PGR’s are to stay away from, and them pictures one of the reasons. But all that said and a bit research and looking in to it further there’s other products out there that dont have the ssme effects, the bud normal looking, not airy, not rock hard, not abnormal ect ect

alot of these products are not sythetic and are found in other substabces one being beeswax, not sure on all the fancy labelled products out there but alot do contain added PGR’s and i would reccomend buyers wanting to use them to ask manafaturer the ingredients in said products before using them. This way we know exactly what we adding.
Not all PGR’s are bad !
I laughed at a single post of yours, are you that easily offended by a little face on the internet? Really?

The shit you typed was laughable, so I laughed

Rock hard buds are PGR grown LoL
 

Kushthemagictree

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I wouldn't use them myself but if you're going to don't pay insane prices for premixed solutions. Mix them yourself.

Agreed mate. Look for the ingredients in products, fuck the noise off from the fancy labels and advertising. See if theirs organic equivelents to whats used in products.
 

Kushthemagictree

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looking for new exotic items to increase yield/potency is a sure sign you don't know how to use the basic items you have already.

BS

thats just absolute nonsese.That’s some nonsense to make you sound better than others, a better grower or more experienced.bit like a know it all.

its a bit like telling a body builder he doesnt know how to eat because he uses protein shakes. He allready knows where the protein is or what contains it. He just has another way of consuming protein and in a quicker way.

I know most the products i use, i know they all organic,i know my plants, and i push them as much as i can in a dialled in enviroment. The extra products i use help with the fact i like to push my plants. They increase cell division which is one of the many advantages.

i’ve done crops with an A and B feed with not bad results and decent bud to smoke. Doesnt mean i have to keep doing the same thing. With you’re thinking i would still be doing a A and B grow and telling people i dont know what i’m doing
 

Kushthemagictree

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pot - kettle
Not at all. You picked two words from my reply and come back with pot and kettle...

Heres the thing i’m sharing my knowledge and what i know by investing a bit time in research, i’ve then explained about diffrent PGR’s and the fact some sythetic and some not.
Im not here claiming to know more than others or fishing for disagreements like a little bitch.

what i say might or might not help others but the reason i share is to help others who might want to try these things.
 

Kassiopeija

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what kind of a logic is it to state that just bc something is synthetic, it's bad. what if the molecule is 100% similar to the natural one? would u ingest Rizin, just bc it comes from a tree? there are so many poisons in plants...rather follow a lost ideology, instead of looking directly AT THE EFFECT a particular plant feeding strat has.
 

bk78

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So what’s the difference then if the guy wants to only add the Cytokinins without additional NPK from the kelp.

I don’t understand why you’re giving him a hard time.

or was it literally just for the synthetic PGR’s and rock hard buds comment??

I laughed at the kids comment about only rock solid buds are PGR weed. Then his feelers got hurt and he decided to make a post about me.

and now we’re here?
 
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