Pandemic 2020

DIY-HP-LED said:

DJT fucked over America and Americans far more than Canadians! He withheld supplies from US states FFS. Over a million dead and he used as a biolgical weapon when it looked like democrats were mostly dying. After vaccines came out, disinformation with the change in governments lead to so many republicans dying of covid the republican leadership started to panic!

So Canada got off easy with Trump, even though Justin humiliated him with photos of his wife and daughter fawning over him in all the national magazines, tariffs on aluminum and steel were the least of our worries with that lunatic. It's why Justin has a bond with Zelenskiy, he was was mentoring him in Trump survival for years!

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CANON_Grow said:

… With such a huge list of failures to choose from, to use the vaccine as a partisan talking point is just not smart. The fucking moron is a child, give him a bit of praise and get him to promote his vaccine.

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Budley Doright said:

Have you had beaver tails? Way better than waffles, just sayin!

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DIY-HP-LED said:

They sold and will sell a lot of that stuff... The fun for Donald has just begun and it will get worse pretty fast I expect. When he is indicted over the secret documents it will get really interesting as he squirms and squeals. I particularly look forward to his TV trial in Georgia, federal trials are not televised, but trials in Georgia are and it should be a dandy!

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CANON_Grow said:

The fact that the Biden administration chose to rip on DTJ regarding the vaccine program is just as big a failure.

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

you're right, they shouldn't be limiting themselves to ripping him a new asshole for just this, he deserves so many new assholes that it would make his flabby orange carcass disintegrate into a pile of assholes...

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CANON_Grow said:

Americans chose that clown, he was exactly as advertised. You're right about the tariffs on aluminum and steel, they were a short term concern, but the Bombardier C-Series tariffs was Avro Arrow part 2.

The fact that the Biden administration chose to rip on DTJ regarding the vaccine program is just as big a failure. True leadership looks at the bigger picture, and continuing partisan comments on the vaccine wasn't going to convince more people to get vaccinated. Less vaccinated = higher hospitalizations, higher hospitalizations = less care for all, less care for all = worse outcomes for everyone.

With such a huge list of failures to choose from, to use the vaccine as a partisan talking point is just not smart. The fucking moron is a child, give him a bit of praise and get him to promote his vaccine.

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CANON_Grow said:

Americans chose that clown, he was exactly as advertised. You're right about the tariffs on aluminum and steel, they were a short term concern, but the Bombardier C-Series tariffs was Avro Arrow part 2.

The fact that the Biden administration chose to rip on DTJ regarding the vaccine program is just as big a failure. True leadership looks at the bigger picture, and continuing partisan comments on the vaccine wasn't going to convince more people to get vaccinated. Less vaccinated = higher hospitalizations, higher hospitalizations = less care for all, less care for all = worse outcomes for everyone.

With such a huge list of failures to choose from, to use the vaccine as a partisan talking point is just not smart. The fucking moron is a child, give him a bit of praise and get him to promote his vaccine.

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

i'll give you a fair opinion...did trump do NOTHING good for his whole administration? no, i'm sure he did a few beneficial things, but i'm honestly hard pressed to name a single one.
anything that seems to be positive, turns out not to be, once the entirety of the situation becomes apparent...
anything positive that he did, was more than likely at the behest of others, who appealed to his sense of divinity in the right way, so he granted them their request... and that is my real, unadorned opinion...he didn't try to do something evil every day, but how does someone that immersed in evil not just slop it around simply existing?
anything, ANYTHING he did good wasn't of his own doing, and he has no human heart to feel compassion with.
any credit he deserves is consumed in one swallow by one drop of the harm he did...

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

i'll give you a fair opinion...did trump do NOTHING good for his whole administration? no, i'm sure he did a few beneficial things, but i'm honestly hard pressed to name a single one.
anything that seems to be positive, turns out not to be, once the entirety of the situation becomes apparent...
anything positive that he did, was more than likely at the behest of others, who appealed to his sense of divinity in the right way, so he granted them their request... and that is my real, unadorned opinion...he didn't try to do something evil every day, but how does someone that immersed in evil not just slop it around simply existing?
anything, ANYTHING he did good wasn't of his own doing, and he has no human heart to feel compassion with.
any credit he deserves is consumed in one swallow by one drop of the harm he did...

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Fogdog said:

I'd prefer Biden had simply not said anything at all about "his (Trump's) vaccine". Just not mention it and if asked, say the vaccines were produced by Pfizer or whoever made them. Trump didn't have anything to do with the research, testing or production of those vaccines. Pfizer even refused financial help to develop theirs because they saw that aid as a way in for meddling by his administration and their chaos. They were first to roll-out an mRNA vaccine because they rejected Republican "help".

In any case, US politics are (I think) headed away from right wing extremism but we are still at the stage where, with our winner takes all elections, we may flip back back and forth between MAGA and mindful governance over the next four years. I wouldn't make any treaties or plans of importance or scale with the US if I were in charge of a nation that partners with us.

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CunningCanuk said:

The XBB.1.5 COVID-19 subvariant — a new version of the Omicron variant — is sweeping through the United States right now amid a chaotic travel season and the early days of winter.

What we know about the XBB.1.5 COVID subvariant so far — Axios

The XBB.1.5 COVID-19 subvariant — a new version of the Omicron variant — is sweeping through the United States right now amid a chaotic travel season and the early days of winter.

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injinji said:

If that is what I got, it's a son of a bitch. One person gave it to 10 or 11 of us, and to a person, we all had a rough go of it. I know the wife and I, and at least two other people were up to date on our jabs. Not sure about the others.

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cannabineer said:

I just finished a novel of the near future written by Neal Stephenson, a favorite author. He mentions the societal changes brought on by Covid-19, Covid-23 and Covid-27.

Boy I hope he’s wrong.

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injinji said:

I'm not up to date on how big a change it would have to have to be renamed. Hope we don't look back at the good ole days of 2020-2022.

We've lost the memories, but there was a time in New Orleans no one could get a job or rent a house until they had gotten and gotten over yellow fever. Too risky taking a chance on someone if they were going to die to you right off the bat.

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cannabineer said:

I’m gonna take a wild guess.
The current array of mutant viruses can all be traced to the initial appearance in humans. But it came to us originally from another species.

So it stands to reason that the coronavirus or a cousin is doing its thing in the animal reservoir below our radar, changing without our tracking the cumulative changes because we are pretty busy minding the human pandemic.

To be a new genus of virus, it would have to be plainly not a close congener of the ones that have gone through the human population. It would either have been in the nonhuman reservoir long enough to have changed beyond recognition, either by our immune systems or those who study immunology.

Or it would be a completely new pathogen. I don’t doubt they are out there. My scariest scenario is that it is a vigorous hybrid of a -19 mutant and something not yet described.

Mind you, this is me blue-skying.

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

i think environmental stimulation is responsible for some of it. we're raising temperatures, thawing out thing that have been frozen for thousands of years, changing the water tables and how water flows through the earth...just making things more comfortable for every virus and bacteria out there.

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