Pandemic 2020

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DIY-HP-LED

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Pretty funny how just a few weeks ago, health authorities were adamant that 99% of covid cases were among the unvaccinated. I knew that was BS because they were counting cases from the beginning of the year. Newest data from July is showing that breakthrough cases amount for 20% to 25% of new cases in most locales, now that vaxx efficacy is waning, and variants created by vaccinated people are finding their way around the jab.




The vaccines protect against hospitalizations and deaths, they reduce the likely hood of contracting covid and lessen the severity and duration if you do. People who are vaccinated can still catch and transmit covid though at a greatly reduced rate. These are merely readjusting the statistics to match the new data coming in. 25% of reported cases are breakthrough, 98% of the hospitalizations are unvaxxed as are 99% of the deaths.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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There were early reports that the cheap antacid medication Famotidine helped with covid too. This is the result of the research into it over a year later. Other supportive drugs they routinely give do the same thing.
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schuylaar

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Your chart looks worse, but that chart looks like a "not that bad" result, aside from the fact that an entire state is shown black, but that's only equal to roughly thirty people in the entire state. We're up to 130k daily new cases right now, 30 even bewould noticeable in the most affected states? For it to be bad with ~700k people, I'm thinking we should see our daily new case rate double maybe 2-4 weeks after the event?
it's the exponent not just those who attend; we're close to Chicken Pox transmission at the moment. light orange was as orange as it got- we were still in shades of yellow until after sturgis..how many wish to attend?
 

mooray

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Think they said 460k last time and something like 700k this time. I suppose if the feedback is less instantaneous like 2-4 weeks after the event, then if nothing else we'll probably see the current trend continue. Lotta concerts/events going on and football is about to startup. Could be another perfect storm for winter flu season like that time.
 

schuylaar

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Think they said 460k last time and something like 700k this time. I suppose if the feedback is less instantaneous like 2-4 weeks after the event, then if nothing else we'll probably see the current trend continue. Lotta concerts/events going on and football is about to startup. Could be another perfect storm for winter flu season like that time.
i don't like the way it looks..basic math in my head has me resisting true numbers out of shear fright.
 

PJ Diaz

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Kind of a catch 22, because you have to first admit that something works before you can admit that there's anything to wear off.
I admit that it has a certain amount of efficacy. I guess the question for me would be how much, and for how long vs the potential for adverse effects. Unfortunately we can't know that answer for a few years still at least.
 

PJ Diaz

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The vaccines protect against hospitalizations and deaths, they reduce the likely hood of contracting covid and lessen the severity and duration if you do. People who are vaccinated can still catch and transmit covid
This isn't news to me. I told ya'll that months ago, and you called me cray.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Reality always tastes bitter when it's rammed down their throats, along with the foot long plastic tube when they're intubated.
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Unvaccinated account for nearly all COVID-19 deaths in Alabama: health official

An Alabama state health official on Friday revealed that nearly all of the COVID-19 deaths in the state were among people who were not vaccinated against the virus.

State Health Officer Scott Harris told The Associated Press that just 26 of Alabama's 11,600 COVID-19 deaths were people who were fully vaccinated, and almost 2,000 COVID-19 patients currently being treated in state hospitals are unvaccinated.

"I think it's correct to say that we wouldn't see these kinds of numbers if we had more people vaccinated," Harris said. "Again, the case numbers are being driven by people that aren't vaccinated, which is unfortunate."

Alabama has reportedly seen a drop off in the number of residents who are opting to get vaccinated. Harris noted Friday that the state has seen a surge in hospitalizations and severe illness as a result.

Health officials in the state have returned to advising people to resume wearing masks and get vaccinated if they have not yet done so in an effort to mitigate the spread.

Nearly 1,923 people were reportedly hospitalized in Alabama as of Friday. The state has not seen such high rates since late January, according to the AP.

Alabama saw about 3,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations during the height of the pandemic, and health officials warn that the state is inching closer to that number. Harris said on Friday that about 93 percent of Alabama hospitals' intensive care beds have already reached capacity.

"It's been reported to us from hospitals that virtually all of those patients are unvaccinated patients," Harris told the AP, adding that he is still collaborating with the state to get conclusive numbers.

About 34 percent of Alabama's population has been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and 44 percent have gotten least one dose of the vaccine, making the state one of the least vaccinated in the nation, the AP reported.
 

schuylaar

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Reality always tastes bitter when it's rammed down their throats, along with the foot long plastic tube when they're intubated.
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Unvaccinated account for nearly all COVID-19 deaths in Alabama: health official

An Alabama state health official on Friday revealed that nearly all of the COVID-19 deaths in the state were among people who were not vaccinated against the virus.

State Health Officer Scott Harris told The Associated Press that just 26 of Alabama's 11,600 COVID-19 deaths were people who were fully vaccinated, and almost 2,000 COVID-19 patients currently being treated in state hospitals are unvaccinated.

"I think it's correct to say that we wouldn't see these kinds of numbers if we had more people vaccinated," Harris said. "Again, the case numbers are being driven by people that aren't vaccinated, which is unfortunate."

Alabama has reportedly seen a drop off in the number of residents who are opting to get vaccinated. Harris noted Friday that the state has seen a surge in hospitalizations and severe illness as a result.

Health officials in the state have returned to advising people to resume wearing masks and get vaccinated if they have not yet done so in an effort to mitigate the spread.

Nearly 1,923 people were reportedly hospitalized in Alabama as of Friday. The state has not seen such high rates since late January, according to the AP.

Alabama saw about 3,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations during the height of the pandemic, and health officials warn that the state is inching closer to that number. Harris said on Friday that about 93 percent of Alabama hospitals' intensive care beds have already reached capacity.

"It's been reported to us from hospitals that virtually all of those patients are unvaccinated patients," Harris told the AP, adding that he is still collaborating with the state to get conclusive numbers.

About 34 percent of Alabama's population has been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and 44 percent have gotten least one dose of the vaccine, making the state one of the least vaccinated in the nation, the AP reported.
hospital has to sedate before intubate so the antivaxxer gets to miss the best part.
 
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UncleBuck

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I'm confused, you don't want science to discover therapeutics to help with covid, only vaccines? Or are you saying that the research scientists from University of Birmingham, Keele University, etc are either wrong or lying? Or is it just that you don't believe anything that's reported by FOX news and not CNN? The study looks pretty legit, as do it's authors: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphar.2021.660490/full

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Guy who doesn't understand how vaccines work evaluates scientific study
 

UncleBuck

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I admit that it has a certain amount of efficacy. I guess the question for me would be how much, and for how long vs the potential for adverse effects. Unfortunately we can't know that answer for a few years still at least.
The vaccine has been around for years already you lying sack of shit
 
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