Obama’s oil flimflam

stoneyfockbrook

New Member
Fine I'll admit, it was over 20 years ago, the point still stands tho, some day we'll harness hydrogen properly; fusion, fuel-cells and high pressure liquid hydrogen are the goal in my eyes.
Maybe
who is going to fund the intial research though?
Oh thats right
The evil Big goverment of course like they have always funded basic research that led us to where we are today
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Maybe
who is going to fund the intial research though?
Oh thats right
The evil Big goverment of course like they have always funded basic research that led us to where we are today
There are amazing breakthroughs every day with the use of computers, nanotechnology, new materials, etc. We are developing so fast it is breathtaking.

Yet some people seem to think we are stuck in amber...

Patience grasshopper ;]
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Maybe
who is going to fund the intial research though?
Oh thats right
The evil Big goverment of course like they have always funded basic research that led us to where we are today
Probably the very same companies that produce the liquid hydrogen? And hydrogen technology would truely benefit all of mankind, so if Government resources were funnelled into that instead of welfare cheques for people who've never worked in their lives Id turn a blind eye to Government assistance, it's the lesser of the two evils.
 

stoneyfockbrook

New Member
Probably the very same companies that produce the liquid hydrogen? And hydrogen technology would truely benefit all of mankind, so if Government resources were funnelled into that instead of welfare cheques for people who've never worked in their lives Id turn a blind eye to Government assistance, it's the lesser of the two evils.
[h=2]Government Involvement[/h]
  • The government officially became involved in the development of hydrogen fuel cars when President Bush signed the Hydrogen Fuel Initiative (HFI) in 2003. The HFI funded $1.3 billion to the entire spectrum of development of hydrogen fuel technology to include delivery, storage and infrastructure. The goal was to fund research and development over a five-year phase with an accelerated funding program to start in 2015.
    One of the first priorities was to lower the cost of hydrogen fuel production. As of 2005, the cost of hydrogen fuel was $3.00 per gallon. The HFI target is to get the fuel costs down to $1.50 per gallon untaxed, according to fuelcells.org. The government has also outlined other challenges, such as the knowledge gap between hydrogen fuel cell development and application of hydrogen fuel technology. There is also a lack of policies guiding the safety and standards for hydrogen fuel since it is still a relatively new fuel source. The HFI allocated nearly $500,000 to those issues for the fiscal year 2008.
    The Department of Energy (DOE) also created a proposed roadmap of where hydrogen cell development would figure into the country's energy outlook. They saw hydrogen fuel cells applied to technologies involving gas turbines, reciprocating engines and polymer electrolyte membranes that were to be used in cars. Alkaline cells, which power military satellites, are also a DOE hydrogen target.



Read more: How is the Government Involved With Hydrogen Cars? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4673215_how-government-involved-hydrogen-cars.html#ixzz1pWnXFcAW
 

stoneyfockbrook

New Member
The US currently supports the largest national R&D program for hydrogen energy technologies
and infrastructure development. The state of California’s Hydrogen Highway on the Western
coast is but one example of several “lighthouse projects” that begin with development in
metropolitan regions with the intention of broad dissemination across larger areas. Likewise,
similar activities are being conducted in Canada, including a hydrogen highway in British
Columbia and hydrogen shuttle buses at the Canadian parliament. In addition, various US
automobile companies are continuing development of hydrogen vehicles with limited public
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deployments. As North American governments partner with industry, significant results are
being manifested in the area where most of the world’s hydrogen is produced.
South America is also an important region for hydrogen technologies. Brazil and Argentina
currently run the world’s largest fleets of alternative fuel vehicles and therefore have much to
contribute regarding the development and demonstration of alternative fuel technologies.
During the Detroit meeting, Dr. Sigmund Gronich of the US Department of Energy (DOE)
summarized a major project at DOE. Efforts are underway to develop a set of scenarios
characterizing the potential development of hydrogen energy infrastructure and fuel cells in the
US and to determine the potential costs and impacts of alternative public policies and market
mechanisms. The time
‐scale and geographic positioning of the scenarios provided a range of
potential conditions and possibilities for infrastructure development and raised new
considerations for workshop participants.
In addition, Annie Desgagné of Industry Canada described her experiences and successes with
“Building the Hydrogen Economy in Canada.” She reported that air quality concerns, climate
change, energy security, and financial investment opportunities were drivers for the Canadian
hydrogen economy. She emphasized the importance of government incentives and also
presented the intended path of hydrogen from Canadian sources to distributors and finally to
major users.
 
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