TodayIsAGreenday
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bushes and binladens go way back
they probably asked osama if it was okay if they used him as the scape goat
they probably asked osama if it was okay if they used him as the scape goat
Obama is the man
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Kludge
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No doubt. The whole Fanny Mae / Freddy Mac debacle is a cluster fuck.
And everyone down the line from the CEO's to the mortgage brokers to the property appraisers ought to go to jail. But you know no one ever will. Magically everyone lost money and no one is to blame.
Big P
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ok guys heres the deal,
Obama is a likable dude, I think he has a good heart
McCain is a likable dude and he has a good heart
Obama as GardenKnowm put it may be a kinder gentler negotiator which maybe would work, obviously bush was too abrasive
McCain is more of your stronger more seasoned negotiator which has been the general consensus of how to get more options and benefits for your client which in this case would be the American people.
Unlike bush he is hard nosed but charismatic at the same time
I am some what of a bad negotiator myself which i hate to say, but its because im too nice
so even tho this helps me a lot when negotiating with goodhearted people
it has made me get chumped out a lot over the years to the point where ive learned now of this being a weakness and I prefer for others at my work which is a very lucrative business whith much negotiating, to do the negotiating for us. Those are the people we trust, whom are much better at getting benefits for our company and higher profits at this than me, because of my kind hearted manner and style
I think McCain has been serving his country very well all his life and has "earned" (not deserves) but has earned the right to become president, kinda like it is his "turn" he has been working hard and waiting to better his country in this way for so long now.
I think he has waited long enough.
Barak Obama seems to me would be better off running later on, which im sure he planned to do until he was prematurely thrust onto the national stage by a patronizing democratic party because he was black,
so patronizing were they, that they thought he surely would never win the nomination. They just figured that they would end up looking good for being so "inclusive"
so now they patronized him because he is black, but to their surprise he won the primary.
if he loses, whos fault will it be? does it matter? do you think Barak knows he is / was being patronized?
of coarse he does, and I gotta give it to him he seems like a good guy, but he has different views about the world than I do personally
so to cut to the chase i like Obama better than Hillary, but im sorry he has nothing on Big Mac
the fact that many conservatives do not or did not like McCain at all should tell you something
it tells you McCain is actually in the center, with Joe Lieberman who was raped and beaten by the democrats until he told them to kiss his ass and went independent and won the election anyway.
THERE IS NO MORE ROOM FOR THE POLITICAL CLUBS & HATERS ON EITHER SIDE THAT TRY TO CONTROL EVERTHING AND STAGNATE ALL THINGS THAT WOULD NOT GIVE THEM CREDIT
As John McCain would say "How about we try sharing the credit?"
Liberals John McCain Right wingers
couragious people like Republican John McCain and now Independent Joseph Lieberman are the ones, NOT who should lead. But they seem to be the only ones who DO lead.
Instead of following the pack or dictating to the pack what to do at threat of sanction by thier party. THE ONLY LEGAL SACTION THEY SHOULD FEAR IN MY VIEW IS THE SANCTION OF THE AMERICAN VOTER.
I hope my post has illustrated to your my divine and superior intellect
- PandaBear 2008
Obama is a likable dude, I think he has a good heart
McCain is a likable dude and he has a good heart
Obama as GardenKnowm put it may be a kinder gentler negotiator which maybe would work, obviously bush was too abrasive
McCain is more of your stronger more seasoned negotiator which has been the general consensus of how to get more options and benefits for your client which in this case would be the American people.
Unlike bush he is hard nosed but charismatic at the same time
I am some what of a bad negotiator myself which i hate to say, but its because im too nice
so even tho this helps me a lot when negotiating with goodhearted people
it has made me get chumped out a lot over the years to the point where ive learned now of this being a weakness and I prefer for others at my work which is a very lucrative business whith much negotiating, to do the negotiating for us. Those are the people we trust, whom are much better at getting benefits for our company and higher profits at this than me, because of my kind hearted manner and style
I think McCain has been serving his country very well all his life and has "earned" (not deserves) but has earned the right to become president, kinda like it is his "turn" he has been working hard and waiting to better his country in this way for so long now.
I think he has waited long enough.
Barak Obama seems to me would be better off running later on, which im sure he planned to do until he was prematurely thrust onto the national stage by a patronizing democratic party because he was black,
so patronizing were they, that they thought he surely would never win the nomination. They just figured that they would end up looking good for being so "inclusive"
so now they patronized him because he is black, but to their surprise he won the primary.
if he loses, whos fault will it be? does it matter? do you think Barak knows he is / was being patronized?
of coarse he does, and I gotta give it to him he seems like a good guy, but he has different views about the world than I do personally
so to cut to the chase i like Obama better than Hillary, but im sorry he has nothing on Big Mac
the fact that many conservatives do not or did not like McCain at all should tell you something
it tells you McCain is actually in the center, with Joe Lieberman who was raped and beaten by the democrats until he told them to kiss his ass and went independent and won the election anyway.
THERE IS NO MORE ROOM FOR THE POLITICAL CLUBS & HATERS ON EITHER SIDE THAT TRY TO CONTROL EVERTHING AND STAGNATE ALL THINGS THAT WOULD NOT GIVE THEM CREDIT
As John McCain would say "How about we try sharing the credit?"
Liberals John McCain Right wingers
couragious people like Republican John McCain and now Independent Joseph Lieberman are the ones, NOT who should lead. But they seem to be the only ones who DO lead.
Instead of following the pack or dictating to the pack what to do at threat of sanction by thier party. THE ONLY LEGAL SACTION THEY SHOULD FEAR IN MY VIEW IS THE SANCTION OF THE AMERICAN VOTER.
I hope my post has illustrated to your my divine and superior intellect
- PandaBear 2008
Kludge
Well-Known Member
That's a wonderfully expressed message Panda, thanks.
My issue is that McCain had his chance, for decades, and didn't make a difference. In addition he thinks the Iraq war is a super great idea and thinks we ought to stay there for 100 years or more. Yay!
On the other hand Obama really doesn't have a lot of experience... but I'm beginning to think that's a good thing.
What would you say to someone that comes up to you and says, "I've been working on this for 40 years and still haven't fixed it so you had better do exactly what I do so we can get this done..." I'd say, "Yeah old timer? Well tell me everything you know; so I can avoid doing it because it clearly isn't working."
My issue is that McCain had his chance, for decades, and didn't make a difference. In addition he thinks the Iraq war is a super great idea and thinks we ought to stay there for 100 years or more. Yay!
On the other hand Obama really doesn't have a lot of experience... but I'm beginning to think that's a good thing.
What would you say to someone that comes up to you and says, "I've been working on this for 40 years and still haven't fixed it so you had better do exactly what I do so we can get this done..." I'd say, "Yeah old timer? Well tell me everything you know; so I can avoid doing it because it clearly isn't working."
TodayIsAGreenday
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i think we need another kinda jfk kinda pres
everybody loves him
hes respected in the public eye
not much older than the age limit to be president
lets put a 37 year old decent looking guy with a nice white smile with barely any experience in the white house and see how much shit will change
everybody loves him
hes respected in the public eye
not much older than the age limit to be president
lets put a 37 year old decent looking guy with a nice white smile with barely any experience in the white house and see how much shit will change
Big P
Well-Known Member
I see what your saying man, but your analogy is like telling the manager of McDonalds "hey man u been manager here for 40 years." I still see you serving fatty foods so what u gonna change you been here 40 years
he says to you. "Im just the manager, as you can see my branch in one of the best in the country"" If you elect me to corporate I know exactly what needs to be done and will finally have the authority to do it.
senator is jack shit when u fighting your own party plus the other party at the same time.
one man has only the power of 1 vote in the senate. and McCain has already done more in the senate that most all others, check out his record.
Big P
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hey guys my little boy is fittin to be 3 real soon, hes real cute
, how about it? he would make a good pres
pleeeeease?????
Seamaiden
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Is this how moderators here behave? I call you on your "my cock is up your mother's ass" type posts that you direct towards people who disagree with you, and you then target me for speaking up? I think you should tell Mr. RIU of your behavior yourself. Of course, that would require a concept that I'm not so sure you're familiar with--integrity. Does your religion allow for integrity, GK? Mine does.
You're on a huge ego-based power trip. Give up your moderator status. Let it go, it's too much power for a man like yourself. Then your abusive nature can be taken as anyone else's, dealt with or not, as anyone else. But, because you're a moderator you're placed in a special position, one of power and one that engenders a lot of automatic respect. That type of respect really should be earned, though. Have you earned yours?
I hope the following fits the rules you've created for your thread.
Just out of curiosity, who holds the Senate and the house right now? Why, it's the Democrats!
Anyone else here bother to actually look at facts, voting records, and information, or are you all just more content to accuse the rest of America for the ills that plague us?
Does it not bother any Obama supporters that he's voting to continue war funding, the PA, or in favor of FISA? Does it not bother you that he states on his very own website that "drug use is immoral"? Are you able to extrapolate what that means (especially those of you who really believe he's going to support decriminalization or even legalization)?
How about his plan to increase our troops (ground troops) by over 100K? How does he plan to pay them? I mean, we already know that regular military don't earn shit as it is, they're underpaid and overworked. So, how's he gonna fix THAT, and then make room for more? How about what to do with them when they've done their stint? How are we gonna pay for that?
crippledguy
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obama ay? i dont nkwo what to think but i laugh my ass off at this thread!
TodayIsAGreenday
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obama is gonna win
and the world will be a better place
::cough cough::
and the world will be a better place
::cough cough::
TheBrutalTruth
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and America will be a worse place, because more of our dollars will be sent to help other countries.
How about we set our own house in order before trying to set everyone elses house's in order?
HotNSexyMILF
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Besides that Obama's policies are completely socialistic in nature and that there is absolutely no power given to the government in the Constitution to do any of this..
My biggest question is where the hell all the money is going to come from...
Obama's proposals equate to hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars- while at the same time he's preaching about fiscal responsibility..
Where the hell is the money going to come from?
My biggest question is where the hell all the money is going to come from...
Obama's proposals equate to hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars- while at the same time he's preaching about fiscal responsibility..
Where the hell is the money going to come from?
TodayIsAGreenday
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from the billions and billions of dollars that will be pumped into our economy as soon as he legalizes and taxes marijuana which he will absolutely do, no doubt in my mind
HotNSexyMILF
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Because he took so many steps to work on this problem in Illinois..
Oh yeah.. he didn't..
also.. reality check- the president alone cannot make that happen, the Congress must pass that.. and yeah- not going so good.
Oh yeah.. he didn't..
also.. reality check- the president alone cannot make that happen, the Congress must pass that.. and yeah- not going so good.
TodayIsAGreenday
Well-Known Member
Then what the fuck is the point of having a president
you got to it before me.
HotNSexyMILF
Well-Known Member
LOL.. didn't listen much when they taught about the 3 branches of government and the balance of power eh?
The 'president' you all seem to want is what's called a dictator..
TodayIsAGreenday
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quickest replies on the east coastyou got to it before me.
