Obama ... He's Lookin' Good!

so bush steps on the constitution a little to nab terrorists and your inflamed. obama uses our money to kill babies and nothing?

they both piss me off. you can tell a real obama supporter by the way they blame bush. its obama 101. i guess it is bush's fault that we have this nig as president. its bush's fault that all the dems pressured the banks to loan nigs and other high risk ppl money for homes. it's bush's fault that we arent marxist enough. so thatnk god for obama. he's gonna bring us the socialism we have been missing since 1776. that ought to straighten us right out. fuck it maybe i will illegaly immigrate to mexico.

Operation 420 said:

McCain and Palin aren't in charge though. Obama is, why keep bringing them up, because they aren't the ones f'ing the country up.

How do you explain him not only keeping the patriot act in place, but expanding upon it?

How do you explain our tax dollars being used for abortions in other countries?

Don't answer my questions though, just bring up Palin or McCain even though they have nothing to do with the discussion.

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well, bush bush bush, mccain palin mccain, spread the wealth bush mccain mccain palin. damned capitalists and there freedom.

Operation 420 said:

McCain and Palin aren't in charge though. Obama is, why keep bringing them up, because they aren't the ones f'ing the country up.

How do you explain him not only keeping the patriot act in place, but expanding upon it?

How do you explain our tax dollars being used for abortions in other countries?

Don't answer my questions though, just bring up Palin or McCain even though they have nothing to do with the discussion.

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palin and mccain are part of the discussion as the only reason i voted for obama was because of palin being on the republican ticket. i would have gladly voted for mccain had it not been for her. this decision for me was simply a lesser of 2 evils. so far i'm not pleased with alot obama has done and many of the things he hasn't done.

as for the abortion i believe in right to choose or rather right to choose not to have someone else's beliefs forced on you. as many poverty stricken countries as are in the world alot of these children would be brought up in war areas or places with no hope of ever having a good life. if you have a problem with abortion put your money where your mouth is and adopt a child. till then keep your morals off other people's bodies i say.

as for the patriot act, he did not mention anything about expanding before elected so how could i have known he'd do that? one could easily assume that mccain would have expaneded and therefore voting for obama was the best bet in that regards.

bgmike8 said:

so bush steps on the constitution a little to nab terrorists and your inflamed. obama uses our money to kill babies and nothing?

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i always thought that suspending habeas corpus, spying on citizens, ordering torture, and knowingly going to war on false pretense was more than just "a little" bit of trampling the constitution.

oh but we have to worry about a few non-sentient clusters of embryonic cells because you insist on calling them 'babies'.

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oh but we have to worry about a few non-sentient clusters of embryonic cells because you insist on calling them 'babies'.

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Yeah, him and your momma.

So your justification is this. "If it wasn't Obama doing this, it would be McCain or someone else."

The abortion question wasn't about morality, it was about our tax dollars being used for it overseas.

Seriously, can I ask someone a fugging question without it being spun to high heaven? Is English that hard to comprehend?

ChChoda said:

Yeah, him and your momma.

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no YOUR MOMMA!!!!
wait wut?

hanimmal said:

You keep doing this tactic. Say something completely ignorant like taxing cow farts, then when called out on it you come back with something totally different. Go to the EPA's website and search for the word cow farts. There is nothing there it was all crap meant to scare the stupid. So get over it, most of the 'information' you have bought into is not true.

And now I will go onto the next thing you will ignore or try to pull some truth like you actually had a point to make before with your rediculous notion of cow farts.

Will we see taxes raised by these moves? No WE will not. The concept of cap and trade is to stay at the current level we are at now, and improve the methods we use to bring down the amount of waste we have now over time. If this does raise costs will the companies pass it to us? Yes. But at the same time as technology gets better it will get cheaper. And if we can get hybrid cars, solar panels, white roofs, costs will decrease for us.


These are the same arguments that they made when they were told to not dump shit into the water anymore. Does polluting cost less money? Sure it does, it is much easier to throw the crap out the back door then to do it right. And sometimes there wasn't the technology to do it right. But to not use it as it gets developed because of uneducated naysayers is not the way to go.



Man you came off very racist, get over it. And funny enough you have yet to say your not. How about you tell us how you have a black friend now.

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Have alot of black friends

Operation 420 said:

So your justification is this. "If it wasn't Obama doing this, it would be McCain or someone else."

The abortion question wasn't about morality, it was about our tax dollars being used for it overseas.

Seriously, can I ask someone a fugging question without it being spun to high heaven? Is English that hard to comprehend?

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idk, is it? i believe what i was saying about the patriot act is without him saying what he was going to do how the fuck could i know what he would do about the patriot act? i couldn't, i could only assume.

as for abortion overseas, we pay to kill full grown people overseas in unjust wars, why not babies? is it so morally superior to shoot someone? i haven't heard any of you speaking out on the war so i would assume it's not the death but the money of which we have spent WAY more on the wars. so it's really just about obama with you, not so much what he's spending but how he's spending it.

You seem to justify everything with something else.

We kill people in war overseas, so killing babies is no different.

If it wasn't Obama screwing the country up, it would be Palin and McCain.

And no, it's not about Obama to me. It's about his puppeteers. Obama is just a muppet with the N.W.O's hand up his ass.

I must say that i am completly appauled at what i'm reading. From arguing over mccain/obama to the links to heavley biased writings - 'Socialized Healthcare vs. The Laws of Economics' posted by a member named 'theawfultruth' or something, and people with george bush as their avatar?!?!?. I thought my first post woulld be of my journal, but I have to protest this thread. As marijuana users we should know better.

As far as obama/mccain goes who cares. There is barely any difference between them (except obama not being a republican hence 'lesser evil'), any of them would bail the banks and corporations out, that's how the system works now, you can't expect a president to go against the flow, otherwise he/she would never had gotten the funding from the rich to fund a half billion campaign to the win the election in the first place. The president does not rule the system, and cannot simply change it.

In the matter of socialised healthcare, in britain (uh-oh he's not a real human being he's not american), instead of paying private insurance we pay national insurance. Any profits go back in the system, no-one gets rich off healthcare. Surely if american healthcare is doing well it can do well for the nation as opposed to a series of wealthy people that the masses dispise. Equality and solidarity are more valiable than lower taxes at the expense of 1/6 of the population being without care.

Most of the world has national healthcare for these reasons, you have to decide if you want private or national insurance, and don't think that private companies run healthcare better, and are more caring about your plight than the government, we are the government, we need democracy in these matters, wealthy people we are not. Remember that the market is amoral.

Finally, if you skimmed through this shaking your head, try listening to the likes of Noam Chomsky from M.I.T. Watch 'manufacturing of consent' or anything by Adam Curtis.

Please address the issues, not the spelling mistakes or the way my post is written.

So you're saying you support the health care plan? I'm not sure where you stand from that statement.

I agree with all presidents being tools, with the exception of J.F.K. (non Free Mason) and they killed him for it.

Operation 420, let's not change the subject, but you should be careful discussing masonary, as there is a danger that you might apply it to everything. Like god, masonary can be used to explain what we do not understand. The truth is available, and it isn't as simple as 'because masons wanted it to happen'.

Also i am amazed that you are unsure of my stance on healthcare. I will not simply tell you...

Nothing wrong with the free masons.Most of our early founding fathers belonged to them.

God if I didn't love Dan Browns books I would kill him. Seriously now people are using illuminati and free masons as the boogie man?

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Operation 420, let's not change the subject, but you should be careful discussing masonary, as there is a danger that you might apply it to everything. Like god, masonary can be used to explain what we do not understand. The truth is available, and it isn't as simple as 'because masons wanted it to happen'.

Also i am amazed that you are unsure of my stance on healthcare. I will not simply tell you...

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Well, you use other nations national health care as an example. When those same people are coming to America to get health care.

Free Masons have been in positions of power for centuries. Why wouldn't I link them to what is happening now? The banks, Free Masons, N.W.O., Illuminati, Templars, Skull and Bones etc.. It's all the same thing.

To respond to the highlighted statement. How is it dangerous? Do you know something I don't know?

Free Masons, N.W.O., Illuminati, Templars, Skull and Bones etc.. It's all the same thing.

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Figments of imagination?

Too late, subject changed. Firstly you suggest that people go to america for private healthcare. This really isn't a fact. In britain and in other the countries i have vistited there is still private healthcare. These services can be used, if there is any arguement as to the quality of services by yourself or others, of the care provided by the Nation Health Service. However, tying in with other subjects in this thread, these busineses are subsidised by the government in all counties anyway, socialised, like the private company bailouts i mentioned in my post. The services you speak of, which foreigners my travel to the U.S for, are new and experimental treatments which are not covered by national health OR private insurance. Payments must be made for these treatments either way. Do not insult the NHS so readily, you have been misinformed.

As for masonary let us stop discussing it, if you'd could even call it a discussion. It is an insult to our intelligence. The only articulate argument we could make from masonary is 'masons did it, because they're all mansonary' Did i say articulate?

hanimmal said:

Figments of imagination?

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Only in your case.

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Figments of imagination?

Only in your case.

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True, perception is reality.

If you see a unicorn, it is reality. But it doesn't mean that the rest of the world is going to not think you are halucinating.