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sine143

sine143

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can we get some undercanopy shots of your 8 head? My Blue dream mainline is a fucking jungle.... dunno how aggressive to get with lower removal (the lateral branching is bonkers throughout).
 
nugbuckets

nugbuckets

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....to me "main-lining" is much more about what stays on, than what comes off......i get aggressive, but my goal of this grow from the start is to grow 8 giant colas, and 16 big colas.......so first i had to find a strain that would work in my scene. ace seems to be a perfect fit.........conquistador.....book of dank....thats what i want.....horse........ cock...and a lot of them...call me crazy.

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nugbuckets

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ColdArmySoldier said:
Wow those are some great looking plants! I cannot wait to see how the BCS dom. AoS finishes up. Also, I am officially adapting your brilliant tomato cage frame idea!
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well then, i guess we will call it even then, cause i am using your weed nerd design to make myself a t-shirt!.....you know your a weed nerd when you hand paint the weed need molecule on a shirt to represent!
i would have ordered one from sub, but i am only a buck-fidy soaking wet, and drown in a large!
 
farmer2424

farmer2424

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nugbuckets said:
the secret the smart pots outdoors, is not to put them out too early....they can't handle a long veg time, cause they will be outgrown....unless you use monster 200-300 gal.pots like they do up in the triangle......think of it being slightly larger than an indoor run, but using the sun instead........here is an example.....last year i cracked seeds on the first of june, transpanted from a 3 gal hardside pot into a 10 gal smart about the second week of july......she finished about 48 inches tall bush(pruned for 8 mains), and yielded 10 zips.....i was blown away, and started thinking about the ounce per gallon principle......along side her, i had plants whose beans were cracked on the first of may, and grown in 30 gal. smarts.....and yielded about the same!....it is all about timing, nutrient load, and energy expendature......never let them over-veg, and run out of gas during the 4th week of flower.....i see it all the time around here.....folks put there plants out too early, leaving them suseptable to early summer bugs, and holes or pots that run out of gas.......because there is a misconception going on.....folks think that bigger plants mean bigger yields......but it is a ratio we are dealing with....those big trees also have to produce stems, leaves, and roots....all of which takes lots of energy.....not to mention the support issues......i have learned through my bonzai work, that if you want bud.....you concentrate on growing just that......structure first of course.....but with everything natural, there is the line of diminishing returns.....and as important it is to develop an eye for dank...it is equally important to develop an eye to recognize where that line lies.
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you are a smart man nugs. I've been debating on 20 gallon or 30 gallon smarties, but you just talked me into the 30's. I've never grown in smart pots before, but hopefully if i transplant my clones in them in by June 10th they won't be deficient by september especially with a liquid supplemented diet as well. Damn, i'm gonna be looking at some money invested in soil, but thats growing. Love that pheno #2 of vortex. Has kinda a peachy snapple smell to it.
 
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nugbuckets

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farmer2424 said:
you are a smart man nugs. I've been debating on 20 gallon or 30 gallon smarties, but you just talked me into the 30's. I've never grown in smart pots before, but hopefully if i transplant my clones in them in by June 10th they won't be deficient by september especially with a liquid supplemented diet as well. Damn, i'm gonna be looking at some money invested in soil, but thats growing. Love that pheno #2 of vortex. Has kinda a peachy snapple smell to it.
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you will be amazed at how much money is saved going super soil/water.....i have about 10- 32 gal. trash cans mixed up, and it really didn't cost too much. of course i get bulk base soil for a good price, and farm my own castings....and buying the large bags of fish bone meal, guanos, and dolomite saves in the end too.
 
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whitey78

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nugbuckets said:
you will be amazed at how much money is saved going super soil/water.....i have about 10- 32 gal. trash cans mixed up, and it really didn't cost too much. of course i get bulk base soil for a good price, and farm my own castings....and buying the large bags of fish bone meal, guanos, and dolomite saves in the end too.
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Over the past 8 months I've been growing in mainly 5 gallon pots and I bought 6 bags of FF soil (HF/OF) and 2 bags of EWC (not nearly as nice as what you are doing by any means), then all my amendments which cost me whatever, AND then bought each bottled nutrient product for the general organics line (I bought gallons of grow, bloom and marine) which granted has lasted about the same amount of time as my soil just about, but had I just bought some different amendments and mixed up some super soil I would have saved myself at least a few hundred $ in bottled nutes over that same time frame. Its crazy how much cheaper the SS works out being, not to mention a one eyed, one armed monkey would be able to grow the dankest of dank as long as the basic instructions are followed and neglect any stupid impulses. I get all sorts of excited thinking about my next run then I realize I wont be able to do anything with it until aug. or so and get bummed....but I get to live vicariously through you guys so it wont be too bad as long as my chernobyl lasts me that long, lol..
 
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whitey78 said:
Over the past 8 months I've been growing in mainly 5 gallon pots and I bought 6 bags of FF soil (HF/OF) and 2 bags of EWC (not nearly as nice as what you are doing by any means), then all my amendments which cost me whatever, AND then bought each bottled nutrient product for the general organics line (I bought gallons of grow, bloom and marine) which granted has lasted about the same amount of time as my soil just about, but had I just bought some different amendments and mixed up some super soil I would have saved myself at least a few hundred $ in bottled nutes over that same time frame. Its crazy how much cheaper the SS works out being, not to mention a one eyed, one armed monkey would be able to grow the dankest of dank as long as the basic instructions are followed and neglect any stupid impulses. I get all sorts of excited thinking about my next run then I realize I wont be able to do anything with it until aug. or so and get bummed....but I get to live vicariously through you guys so it wont be too bad as long as my chernobyl lasts me that long, lol..
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"neglet any stupid impulses"! thats so true, right!......hey at least you have dank to smoke!
 
murp

murp

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whitey78 said:
.... a one eyed, one armed monkey would be able to grow the dankest of dank as long as the basic instructions are followed and neglect any stupid impulses.
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Hey, I resemble that remark :-P However, those brazilian trimmed, highly structured plants that Nugs has going have me thinking it's time to get out the razor, wax and straps and start trimming and training my girls better. Nugs, what I'd love to see from you next is an espaliered plant grown beside a vertical light. Bet you'd rock that, too...
 
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nugbuckets

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...my trainless qrazytrain......not a whole lot of wreck in this, urkle and trinity perhaps......but this is a lot like her mom, dense as hell, heavy yielder, smells of artificial grape.......sling shot ammo!...she has a ways to go yet, calyxes yet to swell.....
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nugbuckets

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....found these at the garden center today.....they are for peonies...and are 18 in.dia!...green enamaled galv. steel, real stout.........they were 8 bucks each, but i got eight of them anyway...
a little work with the bolt cutters, and vise to bend some feet on em', and boom.....ready to grow!
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nugbuckets

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.....as far as the canopy rings go, i have been playing with different heights, and i have found that if i am really aggresive with my early main-lining, i can keep the cages shorter, like 20-22 inches...but my new batch i cut at 25 in. and bent a 1 inch foot, so they finish at 24.....i figure i want my plants to finish between 28-34 inches from the soil line....meaning if you subtract the 8 inches from the canopy ring (under the soil), my colas will be 12-18 inches above the ring when done flowering.................you can make them a bit longer, but the further you bring the ring up, the taller the plant, and the smaller the footprint of the canopy....so again there is a fine line going on...
 
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