Nothing to see here....

DIY-HP-LED

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I don’t feel the need to validate my reasons for an opinion.
We must always be prepared to back up our words and actions. It's over generalizing that offends many, a more nuanced approach is best here, it was the Trumps of America who did the crowing about American exceptionalism. Thinking you are exempt from the human condition is always a mistake, one Donald makes daily.

I like America and Americans in general and want them to win this fight, not just for our sake, but their own, their fight is my fight, at least on the issue of Trump. America's and by extension Canada's problem too, is not just Trump, but the GOP and the whole infrastructure of idiotic racism and bigotry that supports it. These people, like Trump are not just enemies of America, but of humanity.
 

VILEPLUME

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Nothing to see here..CNN Headline News:


A Southern California man who tested positive for coronavirus after attending a party expressed his fear and regret a day before he died.
Thomas Macias, 51, went to a barbecue last month near his community in Lake Elsinore, about 70 miles from Los Angeles.

Shortly after the party, he started feeling sick. On June 20, he posted a poignant message on Facebook to warn his loved ones about the risks of the virus, his family said.

"I went out a couple of weeks ago ... because of my stupidity I put my mom and sisters and my family's health in jeopardy," he wrote. "This has been a very painful experience. This is no joke. If you have to go out, wear a mask, and practice social distancing. ... Hopefully with God's help, I'll be able to survive this."

He never made it. He died a day after that post.

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Is there a website tracking of all the deceased? Would be interesting to know who all or most of the 100,000+ were. Seems unethical to let their names be forgotten.
 

schuylaar

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I do appreciate that, but I won't apologize for stating my frustration with the whole thing, which has recently been compounded by yet further stupidity. I've lost access to my family because of that stupidity.

If anyone thinks I am a paid troll, they can freely look at my entire post history. It's always been open to the public. Eight years of posts. The vast majority helping other growers with sound facts and advice. The minority percent is here in Politics.

Also, if one is to read through my posts, I don't feel I've been trolling at all. I've pointed out and reiterated facts and real information. My only narrative is that Trump is an incompetent, dangerous, narcissistic and self-serving disaster. Don't think any reasonable minded human would take that the wrong way, or that I was trolling. Besides, aren't the enemies of the USA desiring Trump be re-elected?

Either way, I'll back off out of the respect I have for the majority of US citizens unless I have a direct relationship to what's being discussed.

Besides, it's gotten to the point we're all just beating a dead horse anyhow ;)
@hanimmal posts what could be construed as propaganda and is a much newer member and you're apologizing?
 

hanimmal

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i know you mean well..and i know what you post can be found online..but there are some minds you're scrambling here with the report on russian trolls with one sentence highlighted, because that's the only thing that fits.

propaganda works many different ways.:hug:
The entire reports are linked in my sig, feel free to check them out in full anytime. I am using them to help highlight the facts that we know of with this attack on our citizens. Also I actually re-read these pages too so that I can recall the information more accurately.

I am not 'scrambling' minds either, I am trying to help people see through the fog that the Russian Military is using to get Trump re-elected.
 

hanimmal

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I do appreciate that, but I won't apologize for stating my frustration with the whole thing, which has recently been compounded by yet further stupidity. I've lost access to my family because of that stupidity.

If anyone thinks I am a paid troll, they can freely look at my entire post history. It's always been open to the public. Eight years of posts. The vast majority helping other growers with sound facts and advice. The minority percent is here in Politics.

Also, if one is to read through my posts, I don't feel I've been trolling at all. I've pointed out and reiterated facts and real information. My only narrative is that Trump is an incompetent, dangerous, narcissistic and self-serving disaster. Don't think any reasonable minded human would take that the wrong way, or that I was trolling. Besides, aren't the enemies of the USA desiring Trump be re-elected?

Either way, I'll back off out of the respect I have for the majority of US citizens unless I have a direct relationship to what's being discussed.

Besides, it's gotten to the point we're all just beating a dead horse anyhow ;)
I don't have issue with that at all and like to know from the real people here wherever they are from. Our world is very interconnected and when we talk through things it is nice to have different perspectives. And I don't think I have seen you troll man, no worries from my end.

Doesn't mean I can't be wrong either lol.
@hanimmal posts what could be construed as propaganda and is a much newer member and you're apologizing?
You getting a little re-directed aggression towards me for some reason?
 

spek9

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@hanimmal posts what could be construed as propaganda and is a much newer member and you're apologizing?
I specifically stated that I wasn't apologizing ;)

Either way, it doesn't matter if who I replied to is a propagandist or not. I thought about things after what FogDog said, and realized I have had a poor attitude here lately. Again, I'm not apologizing for my anger and frustration, but for me, I feel I've helped mince that dead horse into oblivion now, and nothing more I can vent about the state of things (past, present or future) will help here.

I'm speaking for me personally only. All the power to everyone else who wants to exercise their right to freedom of speech. I'm just going to back out of it (for now, so long as discussions are beyond arm's length).
 

schuylaar

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I don't have issue with that at all and like to know from the real people here wherever they are from. Our world is very interconnected and when we talk through things it is nice to have different perspectives. And I don't think I have seen you troll man, no worries from my end.

Doesn't mean I can't be wrong either lol.

You getting a little re-directed aggression towards me for some reason?
you mean for me posting a picture, that you insist was a Trump supporter, but you fell for the propaganda and got me a 30-day slowdown for no reason, other than the mod is a Trumper*..aggression?

maybe.
 

hanimmal

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you mean for me posting a picture, that you insist was a Trump supporter, but you fell for the propaganda and got me a 30-day slowdown for no reason, other than the mod is a Trumper*..aggression?

maybe.
I fell for what propaganda? Feel free to link the post you mean, I am not sure why you are saying I am at fault for your slowdown.
 

Fogdog

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Trolls are attacking everyone everywhere from every direction on every subject. I figure it is better to assume you are being cat fished at all times and just

And I have never bothered to try to understand how hashtags work and am not sure if you mean them as topics or something else.


It's all good, we are all getting the same attack by the Russian military and whatever other governments are in it too.

It just gets impossible to know who is a fake account or not on any internet forum.

You do understand at some level what @Fogdog is saying though right? That even if you are just a fun loving Canadian, this attack on all of our democracies is very real and you do make digs at our country quite a bit. To the point that it would be basically being gullible to not at least consider that you are just a paid troll trying to cat fish the Canadians on the forum.

Close enough to America to blend in, but still able to pull off some language/cultural differences to hide any mess ups a paid foreign troll might make from time to time.
They all showed up at nearly the same moment -- right around when the Democratic Primary was heating up. They all claimed that a vote against Sanders was a vote against Medicare for All. Ever since Bernie lost, they have been posting exactly the kind of divisive crap detailed in the Mueller report citing instructions given to paid online trolls.

These so-called "Canadians" are riding on the good reputation of Canada. I don't think they are actually Canadian. They just show up and shit on the US. Like any good troll would do.

What is most laughable is the invitation I got to dish shit on Canada. Why would I do that? Canada is nothing to me.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I fell for what propaganda? Feel free to link the post you mean, I am not sure why you are saying I am at fault for your slowdown.
All I can say is to give some biblical advice, "You will know them by their actions", you've read my posts and the other Canadians mentioned, I would suggest you trust your own judgement. There are Canadian trolls, quote us in your responses to them, or those who claim to be Canadians and I at least will have a "chat" with them, I'm sure others here would too. I have no problem sweeping Canadian shit from your doorstep.
 
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