Nitrogen toxicity - lockout
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rkymtnman
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usually not a good thing. add plain water and get it down to 300-350 and see if that helps
rkymtnman
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i've got a 1/10hp sitting up in my garage rafters . i figured i'd keep it just in case...
Onextremebuzz
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I'm lazy and sterilization isn't my necessarily my strongest thing haha. The chiller allows me freedom and more time between res changes. It also helps keep bacteria at lower levels and algae down too. Algae isn't what kills your plants though it's that brown muck you get that rots your roots from your bacteria being to high. The chiller slows this process so you don't have to put ice in your res all the time.
Onextremebuzz
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Last thing I want to do after working all day is mess with a res, besides just topping up and adding nutes. Either pay 300$ for a life of not having to babysit temps in res or not and never be able to go anywhere for longer than a day at any point the grow is online, you could add a float a Nute dispenser and run it right till harvest with out even opening the door just put a camera on it
Hollatchaboy
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To each his own bro. I'm not downing it, just saying there's options. As lazy as you may be, I'm most likely comparably cheap. Those chillers use a lot of energy, and I'm already using more than I care to. Lol
Hollatchaboy
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Doesn't take much to add a couple ml per gallon of bleach when mixing nutes. I've never babysat my res. I'm a furniture mover and at the time I was doing dwc, I'd be gone anywhere from a couple days to a week.
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PadawanWarrior
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That chart confuses me too. In the other chart the arrows all go both ways for one thing. And if too much N antagonizes the K, then I was under the impression that it was harder for the plant to access K so adding more would help. I get that N makes that Mg easily available. Fuck just when I thought I had the chart figured out,
Hollatchaboy
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I've never really used that chart. I mean it makes sense, but it makes my eyes cross when I try looking at it. LolThat chart confuses me too. In the other chart the arrows all go both ways for one thing. And if too much N antagonizes the K, then I was under the impression that it was harder for the plant to access K so adding more would help. I get that N makes that Mg easily available. Fuck just when I thought I had the chart figured out,
PadawanWarrior
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I liked the other one better and thought I finally understood it until I just read what Nutty Skunk wrote,
Nutty sKunK
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Yes there’s multiple charts. I just go for the one unis are giving out. Figured they’d have a better idea lolThat chart confuses me too. In the other chart the arrows all go both ways for one thing. And if too much N antagonizes the K, then I was under the impression that it was harder for the plant to access K so adding more would help. I get that N makes that Mg easily available. Fuck just when I thought I had the chart figured out,
Adding more K can help! These nutrients don’t lock each other out. That’s pH related. They simply react with one another through antagonism or synergy.
N requires the need for more magnesium, it doesn’t make it more available
PadawanWarrior
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This is the one I usually look at. It explains it as increased availability or whatever in this chart. That's why I'm so confused at the moment. Just trying to figure this out, lol. You seem to understand it better than most.
Hollatchaboy
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Is not that it's too expensive. If it was needed, I would definitely use it, but why waste money, if I don't need to?
Onextremebuzz
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It's not a waste, if you can "borrow" one off Amazon for a week you'll see what I mean. It will work wonders for your setup. Something that helps your setup is never a waste wether at be a mini split a dehuey water chiller w.e the more equipment the better the grow will be substantially
Hollatchaboy
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I already own one. I set it up and ran it, when I first got it to make sure it worked, but then I took it off, until I needed it. That time never came. It's collecting dust in my attic.
Nutty sKunK
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Yea the contrasting images annoyed me so had to get to the bottom of it myself lol
There only seems to be one diagram that shows arrows pointing both ways.
from the chart you can see why adding too much calmag causes heaps of issues. Calcium antagonises a lot!
PadawanWarrior
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Oh I know that one first hand, lol. Never used CalMag, but have Ca in my well water am drinking Build a Soil Craft Blend has quite a bit and I used a bunch of that for awhile.
So too much N will make Mg more available and it will use more? But it makes K less available so adding more K can compensate? So in either case adding more Mg and K helps if you have too much N? Or does adding more of the antagonized nute not help at all? Or am I just confusing everyone more now,
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Nutty sKunK
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From the diagram I posted nothing antagonises N. That’s why when it’s deficient it’s the easiest to correct.Oh I know that one first hand, lol. Never used CalMag, but have Ca in my well water am drinking Build a Soil Craft Blend has quite a bit and I used a bunch of that for awhile.
So too much N will make Mg more available and it will use more? But it makes K less available so adding more K can compensate? So in either case adding more Mg and K helps if you have too much N? Or does adding more of the antagonized nute not help at all? Or am I just confusing everyone more now,
Having a high N content means you need more Mg, K, Cu, B in your media otherwise you can get issues.
It’s all about balance in the end. Having high amounts of each one will just burn the plant
Onextremebuzz
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The chart looks overwhelming but once you print it out and hold it in your hand and look at it, it's easy just might have to start at it for a bitOh I know that one first hand, lol. Never used CalMag, but have Ca in my well water am drinking Build a Soil Craft Blend has quite a bit and I used a bunch of that for awhile.
So too much N will make Mg more available and it will use more? But it makes K less available so adding more K can compensate? So in either case adding more Mg and K helps if you have too much N? Or does adding more of the antagonized nute not help at all? Or am I just confusing everyone more now,
PadawanWarrior
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Perfect. That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm finally starting to get this shit,
