New seed bank in canada ... thoughts?

While I will stick with a reputable bank as I have a better idea what I am getting, these folks do take Paypal so that is a big safety net.

sunni said:

drop the squabbling, literally no reason for it

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Good morning @sunni or is it afternoon there? Either way

Doug Dawson said:

While I will stick with a reputable bank as I have a better idea what I am getting. That said these folks do take Paypal so that is a big safety net.

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Does the parenting of the strains you go for. or they way they were bred matter to you? Is it as important as I’m thinking or are we talking differences or issues that the average grower wouldn’t care about?

sunni said:

drop the squabbling, literally no reason for it

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I ate way too much pizza last night and my stomach hurts today.

I'm sure that's why I'm being difficult. My apologies. I think il go eat some pizza.

Hair of the dog right?

lakesidegrower said:

Does the parenting of the strains you go for. or they way they were bred matter to you? Is it as important as I’m thinking or are we talking differences or issues that the average grower wouldn’t care about?

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It would really depend on their seeds. Just because something is new or unknown does not make it bad. Here in Canada for personal use you only get 4 plants. With months of grow time I don't really want to take a chance on those unknowns and end up with garbage genetics. I will leave that to those with say a medical grow license or from other places where they have large plant limits. Those folks can afford to have things go bad as they have other plants growing. Once these new folk are established I would be more likely to give them a try. I have no issues with new places, the world needs more of them, especially here in Canada. I am happy to see a new place pop up, just won't risk my grow on them until I see some reporting about their strains, how they grew etc.

Doug Dawson said:

It would really depend on their seeds. Just because something is new or unknown does not make it bad. Here in Canada for personal use you only get 4 plants. With months of grow time I don't really want to take a chance on those unknowns and end up with garbage genetics. I will leave that to those with say a medical grow license or from other places where they have large plant limits. Those folks can afford to have things go bad as they have other plants growing. Once these new folk are established I would be more likely to give them a try. I have no issues with new places, the world needs more of them, especially here in Canada. I am happy to see a new place pop up, just won't risk my grow on them until I see some reporting about their strains, how they grew etc.

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Yea the 6 plant limit here allows for some room for failure.

I generally run 3 I know are solid and 3 im "curious" about.

This past summer you guys only saw the 3 I knew were solid. Lmao.

The other 3 I was "curious" about.... well curiosity got killed.

Wizzlebiz said:

Yea the 6 plant limit here allows for some room for failure.

I generally run 3 I know are solid and 3 im "curious" about.

This past summer you guys only saw the 3 I knew were solid. Lmao.

The other 3 I was "curious" about.... well curiosity got killed.

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Yeah and there are different rules everywhere. I could get my grow license for medical but I have not bothered. The only thing it would really do is allow me to play around with some strains or run clones all the time. I would just end up with too much weed, I never thought that could be a thing, lol. I am all for new seed banks and them taking PayPal makes me much more comfortable but I have the strains I want for now. I do hope the turn out to be the next great thing though, can always use more good sources.

Doug Dawson said:

It would really depend on their seeds. Just because something is new or unknown does not make it bad. Here in Canada for personal use you only get 4 plants. With months of grow time I don't really want to take a chance on those unknowns and end up with garbage genetics. I will leave that to those with say a medical grow license or from other places where they have large plant limits. Those folks can afford to have things go bad as they have other plants growing. Once these new folk are established I would be more likely to give them a try. I have no issues with new places, the world needs more of them, especially here in Canada. I am happy to see a new place pop up, just won't risk my grow on them until I see some reporting about their strains, how they grew etc.

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That's one of the reasons I switched to outdoor. I can put one photo plant in the ground and have my years worth of med buds, and the others in pots are just gravy. I do like variety though, and I like a surprise now and then, just not from seeds I thought were a sure thing.
When I want an idea of what something new will be like, I can do 12/12 from seed indoors over the winter, get enough bud to get an idea, but not enough where I feel bad about throwing it out if it's crap.
I am considering getting a med license, I do have issues that I use pot to deal with, but so far I haven't needed to. If I start growing indoors again I'll get it.

Jimbo the Gael said:

That's one of the reasons I switched to outdoor. I can put one photo plant in the ground and have my years worth of med buds, and the others in pots are just gravy. I do like variety though, and I like a surprise now and then, just not from seeds I thought were a sure thing.
When I want an idea of what something new will be like, I can do 12/12 from seed indoors over the winter, get enough bud to get an idea, but not enough where I feel bad about throwing it out if it's crap.
I am considering getting a med license, I do have issues that I use pot to deal with, but so far I haven't needed to. If I start growing indoors again I'll get it.

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Makes sense. I still have my prescription but didn't bother with grow licence since they legalized 4 plants for recreational here. I can bang put 2 8ndoor 4 plant grows a year while still taking summers off. Than I can grow 4 outdoor plants at the lake over summer just because it's a separate residence. We can have 4 plants per property. That basically gives me 1 plant per month which gives me extra to turn into rosin and vape cartridges. More plants would be great for experimenting but in the end the product would just end up being given away.

There needs to be a benefit to trying a new place...so unless there's a rare or very cheap offering...why?

If you have any place you can walk into and buy seeds i would go there first.

Anybody laughing at the dude in Cali who goes and buys legal seeds from a reputable source...wtf man it doesnt get better than that option.

ComfortCreator said:

There needs to be a benefit to trying a new place...so unless there's a rare or very cheap offering...why?

If you have any place you can walk into and buy seeds i would go there first.

Anybody laughing at the dude in Cali who goes and buys legal seeds from a reputable source...wtf man it doesnt get better than that option.

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Because the more options growers have, the more likelihood there is of getting rare or cheap goods.
And the only seeds you can walk into a store and buy are from licensed producers, and are still overpriced. The way legalization works up here the dispensaries have to buy in bulk from the government, who buy in bulk from the producers. It's cheaper to get it straight from the OCS, or whatever provincial agency you have.
Black market is even cheaper, but unless you know your source really well you don't have any idea how it was grown, or what chemicals may be on or in it. You also don't know if it was ripped from another grower. Having been ripped I won't go bm for weed.

All really good reasons to decide how to roll with what seeds - i live in MB, not allowed any cultivation at all, its not a criminal charge (because well they couldn't given its legal federally) its a $2K fine tho, so ridiculous. To decide not to allow a guy like me to grow, especially when the feds tell me yes, its not going to push me into the legal market in any way lol I just discovered new ways to guy better weed, more convenient and consistent that I ever had before. I figure the risk is low and worth it for me to grow 4 plants. There were a couple of guys that laughed challenges to the law, but no idea where that went/is going

Jimbo the Gael said:

Because the more options growers have, the more likelihood there is of getting rare or cheap goods.
And the only seeds you can walk into a store and buy are from licensed producers, and are still overpriced. The way legalization works up here the dispensaries have to buy in bulk from the government, who buy in bulk from the producers. It's cheaper to get it straight from the OCS, or whatever provincial agency you have.
Black market is even cheaper, but unless you know your source really well you don't have any idea how it was grown, or what chemicals may be on or in it. You also don't know if it was ripped from another grower. Having been ripped I won't go bm for weed.

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I never really considered if what I was buying was ripped or not... its a good point, lots of the stuff I look at buying now are grown by people who would speak up if they got ripped off, I think...unless they are the rippers lol

You're going to see the dawn of an age of craft cannabis in Canada, kind of like when craft breweries got huge some years ago. Better variety of flower, better hash, better brands of pre-rolls. for the folk that need to stick to 4-plant rules, have clone nurseries with all the fire cuts. Obviously, you'll always have way more people who just want to consume, vs. people who can grow and make a distinguished product.

Jimbo the Gael said:

Because the more options growers have, the more likelihood there is of getting rare or cheap goods.
And the only seeds you can walk into a store and buy are from licensed producers, and are still overpriced. The way legalization works up here the dispensaries have to buy in bulk from the government, who buy in bulk from the producers. It's cheaper to get it straight from the OCS, or whatever provincial agency you have.
Black market is even cheaper, but unless you know your source really well you don't have any idea how it was grown, or what chemicals may be on or in it. You also don't know if it was ripped from another grower. Having been ripped I won't go bm for weed.

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Yes well that is sort of my point. There already are great sources in the US and Europe, and they will ship to you without problems.

A successful business has a successful model...if they dont offer SOMETHING unique or different, I cant see why risk getting burned.

If you are saying support upcoming new businesses...i agree. They have to say what makes them special though.

Payment remains a sticking point as legality is...whatever it actualy is lol. And that was where this started, the concern for a discount for cash mail payments. That with no special offering to me is a poorly started biz but maybe im overanalyzing it?

Supporting local businesses is a big thing for me. Too many Canadian businesses were bought by US conglomerates, then the prices went up, the manufacturing was moved to China, the quality went to shit, and when the business went under their pension fund got shipped south to US shareholders.

Just because there are sources elsewhere doesn't mean what you'll get from your local businesses is no good. Why else would Microsoft have gone around buying every software company that showed a hint of promise?

As for offering something unique, or special, I prefer a business that sells something I actually want. Besides, how do we find out if something is unique or special if no-one buys it just because they haven't heard of the person or business who's selling it before?

Paying through the mail is something I've never done, and I agree that it's not really a smart thing to do. I won't do it here either, but these guys aren't the only ones who offer a discount, or free stuff, for untraceable transactions. I'll use paypal, if I decide I want anything they sell, because it's more secure.

Not entirely sure we're still on topic here. @lakesidegrower thanks for the heads up, I'll look at what these guys have when I'm in the market for seeds, if they're still around.

haha yea its easy to stray from the topic , don't mind at all though
seems really tough to find seeds from Dinafem and Humboldt right now tho... doing my research these are two suppliers that I would buy from today with confidence, but I can't find them anywhere, always sold out
I understand that Dinafem might be dealing with legal issue atm but does a company like Humboldt drop new product often?

lakesidegrower said:

haha yea its easy to stray from the topic , don't mind at all though
seems really tough to find seeds from Dinafem and Humboldt right now tho... doing my research these are two suppliers that I would buy from today with confidence, but I can't find them anywhere, always sold out
I understand that Dinafem might be dealing with legal issue atm but does a company like Humboldt drop new product often?

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Humboldt should have a ton available everywhere. Go to their site for links to sellers that carry their seeds. Dinafem i have no idea.

ComfortCreator said:

Humboldt should have a ton available everywhere. Go to their site for links to sellers that carry their seeds. Dinafem i have no idea.

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I was checking out Seedsman and True North, so much is sold out, there are a few that I might try but just like everyone else I want high THC and high yield lol

ComfortCreator said:

Humboldt should have a ton available everywhere. Go to their site for links to sellers that carry their seeds. Dinafem i have no idea.

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Dinafem is not shipping anything presently. No word if or when they’ll resume.