New Hash Making Method

Chemichaelrxn

Chemichaelrxn

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Have you ever made hash this way ? (what i may do with the less mature buds at harvest)

We all know cannabis contains THCA, which has a carboxylic acid group, meaning you can manipulate it...

Grind the fresh bud with added Sodium Hydroxide and water. The NaOH in stoichiometric amount in 100% excess from assumed THCA content of fresh bud. After, filter to collect the liquid with the dissolved Sodium THCA (the sodium from sodium hydroxide gets attached to the carboxylic acid group of the THCA and it is water soluble). Make a brine by adding salt then add stoichiometric amount of acetic acid from the amount of NaOH added, that you also make a brine with, to neutralize the base. When you add the acetic acid brine to the brine of the sodium THCA, you will notice a sand of precipitate of pure THCA that you can filter. It is almost pure material. You can wash it with a bit of water to remove the excess salt.
I am surprised they dont use this method in the industry, all you need to do is grind the fresh bud add the readily available specific compounds with some filtering…very simple. I came up with it because I know chemistry and it works!

Thought this would be a good first post to introduce myself!

Mike
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Chemichaelrxn

Chemichaelrxn

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No I don't, never tried it.

Cannabis is legal in Canada and chemistry knowledge isnt illegal. It is an unknown extraction process because people dont realize that you use the fresh bud.
 
Chemichaelrxn

Chemichaelrxn

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Lol he could have PM'd me, but I guess it was more saying the whole chemistry part of it makes people wonder...not sure. The real chemistry that is rewarding is where you can produce a new molecule no one else has, something overlooked and a new method that works. Chemistry is a big part of my life, but no, sorry no interest in meth. You can make that with phenyl-2-nitropropene and reduce it etc. just saying....btw dont PM me, i dont do that stuff
 
Kushman_23

Kushman_23

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Chemichaelrxn said:
Lol he could have PM'd me, but I guess it was more saying the whole chemistry part of it makes people wonder...not sure. The real chemistry that is rewarding is where you can produce a new molecule no one else has, something overlooked and a new method that works. Chemistry is a big part of my life, but no, sorry no interest in meth. You can make that with phenyl-2-nitropropene and reduce it etc. just saying....btw dont PM me, i dont do that stuff
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Breaking bad shit haha
 
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end_of_the_tunnel

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Chemichaelrxn said:
Have you ever made hash this way ? (what i may do with the less mature buds at harvest)

We all know cannabis contains THCA, which has a carboxylic acid group, meaning you can manipulate it...

Grind the fresh bud with added Sodium Hydroxide and water. The NaOH in stoichiometric amount in 100% excess from assumed THCA content of fresh bud. After, filter to collect the liquid with the dissolved Sodium THCA (the sodium from sodium hydroxide gets attached to the carboxylic acid group of the THCA and it is water soluble). Make a brine by adding salt then add stoichiometric amount of acetic acid from the amount of NaOH added, that you also make a brine with, to neutralize the base. When you add the acetic acid brine to the brine of the sodium THCA, you will notice a sand of precipitate of pure THCA that you can filter. It is almost pure material. You can wash it with a bit of water to remove the excess salt.
I am surprised they dont use this method in the industry, all you need to do is grind the fresh bud add the readily available specific compounds with some filtering…very simple. I came up with it because I know chemistry and it works!

Thought this would be a good first post to introduce myself!

Mike
CHEMichaelRXN
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Smoke test? Planning a pictorial guide?
 
Chemichaelrxn

Chemichaelrxn

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end_of_the_tunnel said:
Smoke test? Planning a pictorial guide?
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It is very clean because you’re isolating the THCA compound itself. You arent getting the other cannabinoids which may be the downside. (Kief pressed into hash isnt as potent, but it contains more of a spectrum of cannabinoids.) The extraction is high yield compared to squeezing the resin out for example though.

I am probably not going to do a pictorial writeup.
 
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onegreenthumb

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Chemichaelrxn said:
Have you ever made hash this way ? (what i may do with the less mature buds at harvest)

We all know cannabis contains THCA, which has a carboxylic acid group, meaning you can manipulate it...

Grind the fresh bud with added Sodium Hydroxide and water. The NaOH in stoichiometric amount in 100% excess from assumed THCA content of fresh bud. After, filter to collect the liquid with the dissolved Sodium THCA (the sodium from sodium hydroxide gets attached to the carboxylic acid group of the THCA and it is water soluble). Make a brine by adding salt then add stoichiometric amount of acetic acid from the amount of NaOH added, that you also make a brine with, to neutralize the base. When you add the acetic acid brine to the brine of the sodium THCA, you will notice a sand of precipitate of pure THCA that you can filter. It is almost pure material. You can wash it with a bit of water to remove the excess salt.
I am surprised they dont use this method in the industry, all you need to do is grind the fresh bud add the readily available specific compounds with some filtering…very simple. I came up with it because I know chemistry and it works!

Thought this would be a good first post to introduce myself!

Mike
CHEMichaelRXN
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I am very interested in your results this is awesome
 
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Bengfan

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Chemichaelrxn said:
It is very clean because you’re isolating the THCA compound itself. You arent getting the other cannabinoids which may be the downside. (Kief pressed into hash isnt as potent, but it contains more of a spectrum of cannabinoids.) The extraction is high yield compared to squeezing the resin out for example though.

I am probably not going to do a pictorial writeup.
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I also would love to see the pictorial write up!
 
BobCajun

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There's actually a separate forum for "concentrates and extracts", it's just way down the list. I tried using hydroxide on fresh buds before and nothing reacted even with heat, but I didn't grind them up first. How did you grind fresh bud, with a blender? It works if you make extract, like with alcohol, and then dissolve the extract with minimal alcohol, just enough to dissolve it, then slowly mix in the hydroxide solution, just a little at a time. You're left with a solution which is mostly water because the small amount of alcohol is diluted so much at that point that it's not even noticeable. Then when you add citric acid it precipitates out. If you use potassium carbonate instead of hydroxide then when you add the citric acid it forms a sponge of THCA, expands right up from the CO2 being formed. Use a large container because it really expands a lot. It shrinks back down as the water drains out though, in a filter, but it's still sponge just not blown right up like at first. After rinsing and drying it, you have a nice solid sponge THCA product, like sponge toffee but THCA. It's crispy. It gradually gets brownish from exposure to air but starts out white. It's in chunks not one big sponge.
 
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Doug Dawson

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Chemichaelrxn said:
It is very clean because you’re isolating the THCA compound itself. You arent getting the other cannabinoids which may be the downside. (Kief pressed into hash isnt as potent, but it contains more of a spectrum of cannabinoids.) The extraction is high yield compared to squeezing the resin out for example though.

I am probably not going to do a pictorial writeup.
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I will stick with the original way of making the worlds best hash, silk screen and press. If I want to extract I would use a rosin press. THC is not the only part of the plant to look at, terpine extraction is just as important and neither of these ways I mentioned use any chemicals so the finished products are the purest form of the plant and not a stripped down terpineless extract. Now don't get me wrong, to each their own.
 
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