Need FINAL moisture content

Gdub51

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I can't find the answer to this simple question: what moisture content should finished, decarboxylated marijuana be? Since it's variance is great going in, in fact then it follows that using the same temp and timing all the time would seem to be a hit and miss proposition. Knowing what the FINISHED moisture content should be would help each of us guide the other variables into focus to create the best, most potent and stable finished product for cooking. Or, is there a ratio of the difference between the moisture content going in, versus what it should be by the time it's done? I'm working with fresh material right now, as it's harvest time. So it comes out of the drying room at about 70%. Or last years still around and it's at 62%.
 

LinguaPeel

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Dry enough to smoke.. I would say drier is better but terps and stuff make edibles more potent than pure thc by far.
 

Gquebed

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Wtf? How dry should f8nished Decrabed cannabis be? Whatever it is...its going to be pretty fn dry given that to decarb weed you gotta get it up to 200ish degrees or whatever it is.

So what exactly are you asking?

I keep my "dried" weed at 58 to 62 rh. And thst answer is pretty easy to find.

I decarb it when i smoke it or vape it.

Pretty simple.
 

Gdub51

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That's right, "pretty fn dry". So how dry is "pretty fn dry"? Since the moisture content going in could be widely different (about 70% is what I aim to jar my fresh cut at after drying, before curing, down to 62% for previously dried weed) So if the same two types received the same temp and time in the oven (and we haven't put in how much material or how deep the spread is either) the moisture content coming out is bound to be different. I'm trying to fine tune my technique beyond a pretty fn useless adjective when used by itself.....DRY. SO HOW DRY IS DRY FOR FINISHED DECARBED MATERIAL?
 

smokiemcbowl

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dude... if its DECARBED then you shouldnt need to worry about moisture content...

you litterally cook it. its fuckin dry. no moisture content to worry about.

decarbed bud doesnt get stronger or weaker once its done its just what it is and then u cook with it. there is literally no need to know the rh of cooked weed. The THC percentage is not going to go up. if u use crap bud to decard and cook with, then u get crap edables. its the thc percentages beforhand thats going to make your edables better or worse and weather u fuck up the decarb proccess (like leaving it in to long or too high of a temp and burn off all the thc).

I get what your trying to get at and all op but your bud should be going in about the same rh no matter your strain and assuming u use the same temp and time and thickness and blah blah blah... its should come out about the same rh across the board... dry as fuck. the difference between 70% rh bud and 62%rh bud after decarb is going to pretty much none existant.

how about you test it out tho? take some wet bud and decrab it. throw it in a jar with a humidity gauge and see what it comes out to. Then repeat with some dryer bud that you decarb and repeat the process.
 

Gdub51

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Some say to decarb with bare weed while others like the Magic Butter Machine recipe asks for an oven bag or covered container. Temps range from 210 to 275 and timing is ALL over the place. Obviously these would produce different results. AND its painfully obvious here that everyone has their own opinion which no one can show me any scientific basis for. I was hoping there might be a professional out there from one of the companies producing brand name edibles willing to share what they do in regards to decarboxilation. Look at Ardent. Their machine is a closed loop too, covered the whole time. Obviously the resulting moisture content is NOT 0.
 

Gdub51

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OK, I got an answer outside this group from Magic Butter's guru. Here's what they said;
"DECARBOXYLATION:
Preheat your oven to 250°F with an oven thermometer inside. If the thermometer reads above or below 250°F, adjust your oven setting accordingly until the temperature is a steady 250°.
Place your botanicals in a baking (rotisserie) bag or covered baking dish.
Close tightly; if using a baking bag, do not puncture.
Bake for 30 minutes.
Remove your container from the oven. Let it cool for about 2 minutes before placing it, unopened, in the freezer for 30 minutes. (This step is intended to preserve certain phytonutrients.)
When time is up, your sample is ready to use.

Chef’s Notes:

To maximize THC, bake at 250°F for 30 minutes.
To maximize CBD, bake at 275°F for 60 minutes.
To maximize CBN (e.g., for insomnia), bake at 300°F for 90 minutes.

As for the amount of material left behind after straining, you can use other items to strain such as a coffee filter or cheesecloth to have a more clarified final result. We also sell smaller micron purify filter bags on our website, I have included a link to the product below."

Interesting that they like higher temps and longer times as well. Perhaps the covering slows the process. Also I know they want botanicals pre-ground before placing in the oven bag and into the oven. I compromise here by breaking bud up before and grinding after because it's so much easier to grind when it's dry. Also, spread material out after placing in the bag and on baking sheet with the palm of your hand so it is even depth, no piles.

Since I grow for high CBD content I'm going to try both the THC and CBD methods and try the results. Since this years harvest was so plentiful, (there's plenty to experiment with) I will also try some with the CBN method to see what that does for insomnia. I will report back.
 
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