my first indoor poppy grow

ROOSTERMAN

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farmerfischer said:
Yeah I've read that , I've also read they do.. So it's one of those things I'll find out first had.
The papaver glaucum I removed the sepals and staimens (castrated it. Lol)and manually pollinated it with drama queen pollen.. Two Japanese guys did this with p.somniferum and p.setigerum in 1944 to make pharmasudical poppies(high morphine) I have the pdf file on it if anyone would like to read it..
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Somn and Setig. are closely related, Somn. and Glau. are not close (but not distant) I dont think it will take but thats a guess.

A few years back some scientist reportedly got a Somn. to cross with one of the perennial poppys I think a oriental
 
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ROOSTERMAN said:
Somn and Setig. are closely related, Somn. and Glau. are not close (but not distant) I dont think it will take but thats a guess.

A few years back some scientist reportedly got a Somn. to cross with one of the perennial poppys I think a oriental
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Yeah ,I believe it was the oriental .
 
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Just to recap for those who don't read through this journal..
This picture is of two Tasmanian poppies. The poppy pod on the left is of a regular tazzy . the one on the right is know as top1/Norman. a mutant developed for thiebaine production.. Notice the latex .. morphinefree_poppies.jpg
 
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This pink and white poppy some would believe it to be an afghan,(pic still to come, won't upload ) but it isn't . the true afghan or aka afghan (special ) are of the Album variety and are white seeded(orangish tan) . so don't get fooled by vendors selling blue/grey or Brown/black seeded Afghan (special) they're not legit. Same with vendors selling Danish flag as Afghan.. Many folks online doing this..
The true Afghan (special) var.album. is a 55 to 60 day plant . meaning it's harvestable in 55 days from germination. Afghan is as a gmo strain. Thus giving Afghan poppy farmer four crops a year instead of one or two crops a year depending on region .
 
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The rest of the poppies are pretty much the same. They do help for pain but are quite weak.
How ever the Mccormicks were the strongest I've had this year.. I've only sampled a few pods this year as warranted for my back pain so the plan is to homogenize everything together to have one strength . This way I'll know how to dose it better..
 
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farmerfischer said:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://academic.oup.com/aob/article-pdf/79/2/129/7982752/790129.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwii99eas7LVAhVn4YMKHZwcBTIQFgiwATAb&usg=AFQjCNF7v46ozdakHZPVhxH5wJeQqXTMzQ

This is a link to papaver somniferum var. Album DC photoperiod. I though it was interesting, but it's a p.d.f. and is a Bitch to read on my phone
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@fischerfarmer....
I'm sorry I've gotten to this thread all the way at the end, but I'm very curious on how to get my poppies going n growing as I'm doing them indoors. I have hens n chicks, pepperbox poppies, n also the 'Giant'. I have a couple of Grow tents n I would love to see these beautiful flowers achieve their full potential n thrive. If there's any info you can give me on how to start to a very new noobie, I would be forever in your debt! Thank you regardless!
 
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Tankado78 said:
@fischerfarmer....
I'm sorry I've gotten to this thread all the way at the end, but I'm very curious on how to get my poppies going n growing as I'm doing them indoors. I have hens n chicks, pepperbox poppies, n also the 'Giant'. I have a couple of Grow tents n I would love to see these beautiful flowers achieve their full potential n thrive. If there's any info you can give me on how to start to a very new noobie, I would be forever in your debt! Thank you regardless!
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To increase your germ rate, put your seeds in the fridge for a week or so.. Make sure you have light well draining soil. If its a peat base soil make sure to use green sand or perlite. Veg them under 12/12 and bloom under 16/8 or higher. Some poppies will flower in 90 days regardless of light schedule. Poppies don't like high heat So keep This in mind when deciding on type of light. Flou's or l.e.d.'s are good but need to be tight to the canopy to prevent them from getting limp and stretchy. Basic stuff really. Hope it was some help..
Oh yeah, this may help if your into hydro http://growopium.tumblr.com/post/6796193267/a-guide-to-growing-hydroponic-poppies
 
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I have a couple new plants. I'm checking to see if I can grow a late season poppy garden . if so ( depending on strain) I'll plant another batch of seeds in July . the shorter strains like zahir and peshawar are 55 to 60 days so I'm thinking it's doable.
The two poppies in the pic are from the nutmeg spice company.

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farmerfischer said:
Just to recap for those who don't read through this journal..
This picture is of two Tasmanian poppies. The poppy pod on the left is of a regular tazzy . the one on the right is know as top1/Norman. a mutant developed for thiebaine production.. Notice the latex .. View attachment 3986693
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I got a question for ya.... looking at the latex, the right side would be the one with the medicinal content, no? Also, I’ve tried or am still trying to grow, but I believe i have the wrong seeds for medicinal n it’s the P. Somn. Is it possible it’s the vendor I’m using? If so, do you know of a good vendor that sells seeds? As I read, I noticed my seeds are black or bluish grey n after reading, I see that’s not what I want. If you could help, would definitely be awesome. Thank you in advance!
 
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Tankado78 said:
I got a question for ya.... looking at the latex, the right side would be the one with the medicinal content, no? Also, I’ve tried or am still trying to grow, but I believe i have the wrong seeds for medicinal n it’s the P. Somn. Is it possible it’s the vendor I’m using? If so, do you know of a good vendor that sells seeds? As I read, I noticed my seeds are black or bluish grey n after reading, I see that’s not what I want. If you could help, would definitely be awesome. Thank you in advance!
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if your referring to the pic of the two tazzys bleeding .. they're both medical but the right One is high in thiabane and Will make you sick.. you want p. somniferum that bleed pink or white , even purple some times.. stay away from yellow bleeders . it's not a 100% but it's something to go by... far as the seed go's most are slate grey to blue in color .. go with mccormick gourmet / organic select seeds from the spice section in most stores.. them seeds will work and are relatively potent.. not sure how long that type of mccormick seeds will be around.. because they are unwashed and people have been lifting them off of the shelves to make seed tea with... far as the vender.. I'm not sure in your case, but bouncing bear botanicals has had some potent somniferum.. I would suggest them if not the mccormick
the vender I got this last batch from was k.t. rose off of eBay and they were not very potent..good, but weak.. not good for severe pain. oh and most with seeded poppies are potent as well.. try peshawar Persian whites var. album.. or any album variety .. they are fast to flower and are normally very potent.. there's a gmo kind that is very strong and has a 55 day growth cycle. it's a type of Newer Afghan poppy and is quite pricy .. like 26$ for 100 seeds or something.. I haven't tryed them yet , but I'm planning on getting some for next season ..
 
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farmerfischer said:
if your referring to the pic of the two tazzys bleeding .. they're both medical but the right One is high in thiabane and Will make you sick.. you want p. somniferum that bleed pink or white , even purple some times.. stay away from yellow bleeders . it's not a 100% but it's something to go by... far as the seed go's most are slate grey to blue in color .. go with mccormick gourmet / organic select seeds from the spice section in most stores.. them seeds will work and are relatively potent.. not sure how long that type of mccormick seeds will be around.. because they are unwashed and people have been lifting them off of the shelves to make seed tea with... far as the vender.. I'm not sure in your case, but bouncing bear botanicals has had some potent somniferum.. I would suggest them if not the mccormick
the vender I got this last batch from was k.t. rose off of eBay and they were not very potent..good, but weak.. not good for severe pain. oh and most with seeded poppies are potent as well.. try peshawar Persian whites var. album.. or any album variety .. they are fast to flower and are normally very potent.. there's a gmo kind that is very strong and has a 55 day growth cycle. it's a type of Newer Afghan poppy and is quite pricy .. like 26$ for 100 seeds or something.. I haven't tryed them yet , but I'm planning on getting some for next season ..
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Kool n thank you! I’m not sure if I got my seeds from bouncing bear or eden brothers. I have hens n chicks, pepperbox, n the p.somn. Appreciate your info no matter where upya post! Lol. Thankx again
 
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