My first grow, 400 watt scrog, white russian and blue cheese.

DoomBrew420

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Well today has been a long and some what productive day, i tested the PH of my run off and found that is out of wack i watered with PH 6.7-6.8 water and wound up with 7.5 run off out of my blue cheese and 7.2 run off out of my white Russian i also discovered that i have bugs >< i don't know exactly what they are yet but I'm working on it they are tiny black bugs with wings I'm pretty sure there not fungus gnats because there wings are not exposed when they are not flying.
yeah you see bring that pH down next time you water. your girls will be right on track in no time.


do they look like this?

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psilocybindude

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No they look almost like fleas or Beatles of some type when they are not flying there wings tuck under there shell i have 2 of the little bastards trapped sitting here on my desk but they are to small for my camera to take a picture of.
 

psilocybindude

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I will look into that azamax stuff its kind of hard for me to get stuff around here cause there are no hydro stores i have to order pretty much every thing online, but from what i read so far it looks like a great product to have around.
 

psilocybindude

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It didn't seem like they were flying out specifically when i watered there were a lot of them moving around in the soil but there were also some flying around i think because i disturbed the plants by moving them out of the closet and scrog crates i cant believe i didn't noticed them before, i guess i need to start spending a bit more time with my plants.
 

DoomBrew420

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It didn't seem like they were flying out when i watered there were a lot of them moving around in the soil but there were also some flying around i think because i disturbed the plants by moving them out of the closet i cant believe i didn't noticed them before, i guess i need to start spending a bit more time with my plants.
Found this. i know you dont have easy access to a hydroshop.

Homemade fixes for all bug problems!
[HR][/HR]Here are some inexpensive household products and homemade pesticides that can be used to kill and ward off outdoor pests.

If your plants are underperforming, there might be a bug problem. Bugs are typically found in the most tender part of the plant, near the top. Hand removing insects is a slow process, so you may want to use a vacuum instead.

Every seven to 10 days inspect your garden for insect problems. Water in the morning, not during the heat of the day. This prevents black spot and deters slugs who flourish in dark, moist conditions.

Before trying a new solution, test it on a few plants. If you inadvertently mix a solution that is too strong, it may damage your plants.

Neem oil is an effective insect repellent.

Combine sugar with equal parts Borax to lure ants. They'll be attracted to the sugar but will carry the Borax to the ant colony and kill the queen ant. Orange juice poured over an ant mound is fatal-the citric acids do the deed. Boiling water also does the job.

Cayenne Pepper

Stir together 1 litre of water, 1 tsp of liquid dish soap and a pinch of cayenne pepper. Do not dilute before spraying on plants. Useful against aphids and scale insects.

Garlic
Blend 25 ml garlic juice, 4 ml rubbing alcohol and 4 litres water. May be used immediately.

Steep 2 garlic cloves in 1 litre of water for 24 hours. Strain. Do not dilute. Spray on plants, no more than twice a week, to get rid of aphids, spider mites and scale mites.

Recipe 1
. Steep 20 cloves of finely chopped garlic for 24 hours in olive oil to cover.
. Strain.
. Add 2 tsp of this mixture to 2 cups of water with a few drops of liquid dish soap.
. Shake and strain again.
. Dilute this mixture, using 2 tsp per 2 cups of water.
. Spray on plants.
Useful against larger insect pests: leafhoppers, slugs, plant bugs and whitefly.

Recipe 2
. Steep 20 g of chopped garlic in 20 ml of vegetable oil for 24 hours.
. Add 1 litre of water and 10 ml of liquid dish soap.
. Strain.
. Boil 5 hot peppers in 2 litres of water until the water is reduced by half.
. Add to the first mixture.
Spray on plants every 4 or 5 days.

Hot Pepper
Solution
Chop up 3 hot peppers, half an onion and 1 garlic clove. Mix with 1 litre of water and let steep for 24 hours. Strain. Spray directly on insects.

Onion or Chives
Infusion
Chop up a few onions in a blender. Mix them with the same amount of water. Strain. Spray on plants.

Salt
SolutionDissolve 2 tsps of table salt in 4 litres of water. Useful against cabbage worms.

Soap
Insecticidal SoapDissolve 25 ml of liquid dish soap or 50 g of bar soap-caution: do not use laundry detergent-in 4 litres of water. Spray on aphids, thrips and caterpillars.

Earwig Traps
Pour equal parts canola oil and soy sauce into a shallow container and place in infested areas. Each morning arm yourself with a bucket of soapy water, check the lures and dispose of the victims.

The Tea Ceremony
Add leftover tea (or used tea bags) to your watering can. Chamomile tea is antibacterial and fungicidal and will aid plants suffering from fungus and mildew. Use this tea as a foliar spray and on tender seedlings to prevent damping-off. Sprinkle black or green leftover tea on acid-loving indoor plants such as azaleas, gardenias and camellias.

Baking Soda
. 1 heaping tsp of baking soda
. 1 tbsp of summer dormant oil. This can be found with the garden chemicals at your local garden centre. This oil is distinguished from regular dormant oil in that it can be applied to plants after the leaves have emerged.
. 1/2 tsp of insecticidal soap or dish washing soap
. 1 gallon of water

Fungicide for Mildew and Black Spot
. 1 tsp. baking soda
. 1 litre water
. 1 tsp soap flakes
Dissolve baking soda in 1 litre of warm water. Add soap flakes to help solution cling to leaves. Remove infected leaves from plant, then spray top and bottom of remaining leaf surfaces to control spread of the disease.

Salt Spray
Mix 28 grams table salt in 4.5 litres of water. For spider mites and cabbage worms.

All Purpose Bug Spray
1/2 cup rubbing alcohol
1 quart of water
1 tsp dish soap (Sunlight works best)

 

DoomBrew420

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its hard to see from the picture what the bugs are......

ive only used the neem, the soap method, and a variation on the garlic one. but if the bugs are small anything thats somewhat viscous will asphyxiate them. i like 3-4 mL per quart Neem oil with about 2mL of an organic soap. if the bugs are reproducing in the soil your gonna have to take care of that too.( maybe 1-2 inch layer of perlite and a soil drench ). the bugs you see flying around are adults. the eggs and larvae need a much more protected environment to thrive (like the soil).
 

psilocybindude

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Alright i will have to add some neem oil to that shopping list too i saw some last time i was in walmart i thought about getting it then but i didn't, i think i am going to pick up some sand or perlite and cover the top layer of soil with it i have heard that works well to stop pest from breading in your soil, its weird i went in to take a look at the bugs again today and they have all disappeared i looked in the soil and could see nothing moving i also couldn't see any of the bugs flying around the room.

Thanks for that list of home made bug remedy's.
 

DoomBrew420

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i would still hit them with some neem. make sure its 100% neem oil.... try to spray them when the lights go out. make sure you do it before you flower though as neem leaves kinda funky taste to the flowers IMO.

yeah no problem dude... i hate bugs.

how tall are the ladies dude? when do you plan to flower?
 

psilocybindude

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The screen is about 10 inch's from the top of the planters and the blue cheese's longest branches stretch's about 6 inch's past the screen, the white Russian seems to be quite a bit shorter it only stretch's a few inch's above the screen on the longest branch, as far as when I'm going to flower man i don't know i have never done a scrog before and i don't know how full the screens need to be before i flower, i was going to flower last week when i transplanted and hit the hps but my timer broke i will have one in a few days but i want to get my PH under control first.

I am really wondering if i have been fucking up my PH i am wondering if i am doing something wrong, yesterday i mixed up my water and PH adjusted it to 7.0 before i pulled my plants out and took pictures, about an hour later i put the plants back in and watered them and my PH was a full 8.5 higher than it was when i first mixed it up so i brought it down to 6.7-6.8. I'm gonna read up a bit on how to do it correctly i have watched some videos but i haven't seen anything that has told me i need to let it sit for the PH to stabilize i am also not so sure that my PH adjusting technique is working out right i have been just dropping it into a jug and shaking it quite a lot but it is tiring and i am not sure how well the water and ph stuff is getting mixed it is really quite annoying.
 

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DoomBrew420

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looking nice man. yeah put that pH in check your girls will perk right up.

remember plants stretch a lot during flower.
 

psilocybindude

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Hmm yeah in the midst of all of this going on i hadn't though about that in a while i have 27 inchs from the top of my screen to the light, i wonder if i should top the plants again while i wait for my timer and stuff they already have 4 tops each.
 

psilocybindude

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Yeah i just topped them again so i have a total of 8 tops on each plant, I've been looking into how to take care of this PH issue and I'm really not sure, some people say to just water with lower PH water, other people say that it makes no difference because the PH will buffer to its natural PH with in hours of watering they say that you have amend the soil to change the PH.
 

DoomBrew420

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it makes a difference. i would definitely water with more acidic solution.... yes pH of soil is difficult to change and if your going to mix your own you need to add things that will lend to the facilitation of a well buffered, stable pH in the range that is ideal for your growing needs. try hitting them with a 6.0 next time if youve been doing 6.5.
 
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