My 3.5 week old AK47 auto is only 7 inches tall and 13 inch diameter but looks fine

robro

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I think your first pic is a K def and the 2nd looks like N def.
Which is normal in flowering but maybe a bit premature,so it could be from overwatering.
There looks to be plenty of N in the majority of your fan leaves.So i think i would cut back on N.
She is definitely looking better,so not watering as often has improved the leaf droop.
I would say more bloom nutes are required, now that you know not to water as often and the consequences.
The HP should improve her oxygen uptake in the root zone,and if you are getting some molasses
they should help with the K def,and give extra Ca and Mg that is not in your distilled water.
She shud be able to cope with a bloom feed of 3 or 400ppm at her age.
Dont follow exactly what your nutes say on the bottle,its all about what your plant needs at the time.
GL pirate.
 

pirate43a

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The data coming from the flush was a bit squirrely. First I put 2 gallons of 7.0pH water in. The runoff was 52 ppm @ 5.6 pH. I followed that up with about a liter of water containing 2 teaspoons of lime. Runoff now changed to 62 ppm and 6.1 pH. Sounds good so far and I like the pH increasing. Next I took a half gallon of 6.7 pH 158 ppm mixture of nutes and added a half teaspoon of molasses which changed the ppm up to 218 ppm and then added 3 ml of hydrogen peroxide and 1 ml of Cal/Mag. My figuring was the initial water was to do the flush, followed by the lime which hopefully will stay throughout the container, followed by the nutes, molasses and cal/mag which will slowly move downward with gravity as the water is taken up or evaporates and lastly the hydrogen peroxide which will help with oxygen intake and not be runoff. Last runoff was 6.1 pH with 64 ppm. I'll feed again in about 3 to 4 days with emphasis on blooming nutes.
 

robro

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Considering that you only saw the first pistils less than 2 weeks ago,and you say its a 9 week flowering plant,i dnt think its doing too bad.Also take into account that you have overdosed her with first feed,and starved her of oxygen for a while,with overwatering.
Also your ph was way out for who knows how long.
You wouldnt expect Hussain Bolt to smash his world record if he had a broken leg!
I think we are all impatient when we start growing.
Once you get the ph in the right field and stop watering too often,she should be fine.
Also cfl lights are not the best for flowering.
GL.
 

pirate43a

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Thanks for the peptalk Robro. Being a tennis player I sort of expect instant feedback if I make a good or bad shot. On the plus side the soil pH has been coming up and is now hovering closer to 7 when I mix some soil from about an inch under surface with a bit of distilled 6.7 pH corrected water. From reading a lockout chart N-P-K plus many other nutes including calcium and magnesium won't be locked out at those levels. The soil is still a bit wet so I'm planning on a January 9th morning feed. Do you think a 250 ppm nute solution plus some Cal/Mag is in order? The plant is looking no better (or worse) from the flush so a status quo isn't bad.
 

robro

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The top inch or so of your soil has DoL mixed in it,yeah?So i would expect ph to be around 7.
Try to get some soil from further down and test it,but i think youre getting there.
AS you dnt know if your soil will be dry enough in 2 days,i would be waiting for the pot to get a bit
light,instead of setting a date.Once bitten twice shy,pirate.
As your plant might not have had many nutes over the last couple of weeks because of lockouts etc.
It is probs better to feed lightly,250-300ppm to get her going again.Maybe 50ppm grow,250ppm bloom.
If shes ok with that feed,you can start upping the dosage each week.

Be careful not to overdo the HP,5ml/gal of the 35% food grade is the norm.
GL.
ps.No more double faults!!
 

pirate43a

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I took a sample of soil from about 6 inches deep and mixed with a small amount of 6.5 pH distilled water resulting in a reading of 6.1 pH. Not bad. I'll check container weight for weight. The hydrogen peroxide concentration was 3%. I like your "double fault" analogy. Very appropriate. Cheers.
 

robro

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Well at least your ph is going up now,a lot better than 5.4.
From what ive learned on RIU,cannabis plants dont like sudden big changes in ph.
so if you ph at 7 for a couple of feeds/waterings it shud get you to about where you want to be.
Is your HP 3% before you add it to water?As ive read that the 35% food grade is best.
Diluted @ 5ml/gallon.To be more accurate,700-1=1.42ml/litre=5.35ml/gal.
Your welcome for the analogy pirate.
GL.
 

pirate43a

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Yep, the bottle says "3%" Hydrogen Peroxide. I haven't found any 35% food grade H202. I don't think I've ever asked you but can you tell me a bit about your setup? You mentioned the CFLs don't do great for flowering but with me being a small grower I rationalized that it's the best fit for me right now. As you know I'm still crawling. Do you stick to one strain of plant and master it or do you try out a variety of strains? I think I mentioned before that I might go for a photoperiod plant for my next grow instead of autoflowering. It seems pretty straightforward that you grow it in veg state to about half the height you want the final plant to be and then change to 12/12 light. If I just grow a couple plants simultaneously then that shouldn't be a problem.
 

robro

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Have a look on ebay or amazon,there is 35% HP food grade on there.
As you know my tent is 900x900x1.6,and i use a 250w dual spectrum hps bulb,
which i supplement with a 65w red spectrum cfl in flowering.I have one extraction fan 4"
which is normally adequate,apart from last summer,which was red hot here,and my temps were in
the 90s which devastated my plants.I dnt use an intake fan,the negative pressure inside sucks in air from outside
tent thro the grill flap,and usually keeps my temps about 75f.
I have a 6" clip on fan to circulate air inside tent,but i find that the air coming in thro the grill moves the air about
as well,so i dnt have the 6" fan on all the time.I spin my pots thro 90 degrees each day,if i remember to.
I tend not to grow the same strain all the time,as i like a variation of smoke.But mostly autos.
My first two regulars i grew,got burnt last summer in the heatwave we had.
You shud be fine growing 2 regulars in your tent as long as they are a smallish strain,or flip lights soon enough.
If they do get 2 big you can always tie the tops down.
 

pirate43a

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This plant is keeping me jumping. Today it looks bit worse with some additional yellowing leafs at ground level. A bit more leaf margins have become a lighter green/yellowish in the mid and upper sections of the plant. This is still not a "widespread" condition but no heading in the right direction. I found a bit more runoff this morning (maybe around 8 ounces) which I found to be 128 ppm and 7.0 pH. To me those numbers look pretty good. The container is still a bit too heavy to rewater/feed. I'm guessing it should be light enough sometime tomorrow. By touch the soil is pretty dry down to about 2 inches.
 

robro

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I thought it might get a bit worse before it got better.
I wouldnt worry too much about the bottom leaves as they always seem to be the first to yellow up
during flower.
The DoL seems to be raising your ph,but i think i would ph future waterings at 6.5 to be on the safe side.
I would expect any further defs in middle/upper leaves to stop when she gets a proper feed.
At her stage in life,i would be feeding at least 500ppm now.But coz of all her problems we havnt been able
to establish how much feed she likes or dont like.I would just go for 500ppm and see how she reacts when
you feed her next.
GL pirate.
 

robro

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I like your approach Dr. Robro
Haha,that made me chuckle pirate.
A good friend of mine,who was left partly paralysed and brain damaged after being shot
in the head with an air rifle pellet,calls me "Doc".
As he gets total pain relief,and his depression goes away after toking my weed.
I get great satisfaction from being able to help my mate in this way,when his proper doctor cant.
As cannabis saved my own life from alchohol abuse,i find it very hard to understand why it is illegal.
 

pirate43a

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I agree and strides have been made here in the U.S. towards that end.
I have my feed ready for the plant tomorrow if the ground is dry. She's looking a bit worn but hanging in there.
 

pirate43a

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Ok, the deed is done. I watered/fed the plant this morning with a mixture of 3 liters of water containing 395 ppm nutes and 2 ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide. The mixture went into the plant at 6.5 pH I hope she responds well for this last push to harvest.
 

robro

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Now that your ph has improved,and youre not watering as often,i dnt see why she wo
pick up now and produce some nice buds for you.GL.

Its always pleasing to see more states in the USA legalising cannabis.
It gives me hope,but not much,that our government will see the light and at least legalise
it for people like me suffering from chronic pain and depression.
But im not holding my breath coz they are a bunch of blinkered idiots.
 

pirate43a

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Yes, I know what you mean. Politicians over here are out for themselves once they convince us to vote for them.
Have you ever grown in a promix/perlite mixture like me? I've been reading GrowWeedEasy.com and their novice guide involves using coco coir. I think that is what you use. Are you satisfied with it?
 

robro

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I have never used promix/perlite,but i have used home made supersoil with coco/perlite.
I chose to use coco coz its virtually impossible to overwater,and very easy to flush.
Also,it degrades so slowly that it has no effect on plants.So it is virtually neutral.
Against some advice ive seen on here,i add DoL to help buffer ph and its worked well up to now for me.
DoL also helps with coco`s tendency to absorb Mg and not give it to the plant.Cation exchange i think its called.

I dnt use re-use it as its a bad head trying to get all the old roots out.
It will need tested for ppm before use,as a lot of it contains a lot of salt,even the washed stuff.
Overall im happy with it.
http://www.progressive-growth.com/article-coco-coir.php
 

pirate43a

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Do you sprout your seeds in rockwool and then just put the rockwool block into coco pots for it to continue growing thru the rockwool? The hydroponic guide in GrowWeedEasy.com is very straightforward.
 
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