Most Efficient LED Light

Catfish1966 · Oct 5, 2016

Chunky Stool said:
I would love to get into their test program! My 5x5 tent rocks the dank with 600 watt HPS (hortilux enhanced spectrum) + 400 watt MH (Grow Lush). Could one of these LED units replace both of my old school rigs?

They claim a 3x4 coverage in flower

Catfish1966 · Oct 5, 2016

Chunky Stool said:
So it's a 400W equivalent instead of a unit that draws 400 watts?
Makes sense I guess. It would make a great addition to my light mix, but even $450 is pricey in my setup. I'm all about max quality for min cost. It would be nice to have UV built in. I need to replace four lizard UVB bulbs right now -- and that's $60!

No, it draws 400W

CobKits · Oct 5, 2016

no it draws 400W

dont expect that to replace your setups that draw 1100+, thats not realistic

CobKits · Oct 5, 2016

Catfish1966 said:
They claim a 3x4 coverage in flower

it can easily do that at 30" with good intensity

Hybridway · Oct 6, 2016

Ben-Ben said:
hey guys

wanted to know what everyone's thoughts are right now on the most Efficient LED available today.

I want to replace several Gavita DE 1000W in our rooms we have 6 per room, we would like to replace and can't seem to decide what is a Suitable alternative.

any suggestions or input would be greatly appreciated.

If you're looking to replace a 1000-1200w DE, the Amare Pro-9 would be your best bet. Comes with an in-line cooling option too.
It actually exceeds a Gavita DE. That would be the most efficient & effective led replacement for a DE Gavita. It's made specifically for commercial applications.
I'll read back to see what's going on here later. But check into it. I can pretty much guarantee you that's the best led DE replacement you'll find.
Good luck!
Read back. Seems nobody actually recommended anything. Check out the Pro-9. Plenty of documented grows, 5 yr Warrenty, good pricing & honest company who's owner is a grower too & built his lights specifically for MJ! Can't beat it!
Check out my journals if you wanna see some Other of their models in action. They rock!

alesh · Oct 6, 2016

Hybridway said:
If you're looking to replace a 1000-1200w DE, the Amare Pro-9 would be your best bet. Comes with an in-line cooling option too.
It actually exceeds a Gavita DE. That would be the most efficient & effective led replacement for a DE Gavita. It's made specifically for commercial applications.
I'll read back to see what's going on here later. But check into it. I can pretty much guarantee you that's the best led DE replacement you'll find.
Good luck!
Read back. Seems nobody actually recommended anything. Check out the Pro-9. Plenty of documented grows, 5 yr Warrenty, good pricing & honest company who's owner is a grower too & built his lights specifically for MJ! Can't beat it!
Check out my journals if you wanna see some Other of their models in action. They rock!

Any source for this?

CobKits · Oct 6, 2016

Hybridway said:
Read back. Seems nobody actually recommended anything.

There was actually a fair amount of discussion and i think the consensus was there is no "best" light without knowing budget etc.

i can think of dozens of leds that will top an hps at 75% of the wattage.

besides the best 'replacement' for a DE gavita is an ACDE+solistek

BM9AGS · Oct 6, 2016

Catfish1966 said:
They claim a 3x4 coverage in flower

I'd say it covers the 3'x4' very well at an impressive 400w.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/3-clw-solarsystem-550-and-4-timber-cxb-3590-diy-kits.919164/page-2#post-12964192

Ben-Ben · Oct 6, 2016

@Hybridway thanks for finally recommending something finally lol.

@CobKits what led's are you aware of that top 75% of the wattage of HPS as per your previous post?, I also do not have a predefined budget as long as the light outperforms the HPS by considerable margin I am willing to buy it.

CobKits · Oct 6, 2016

are you looking for a single fixture thats over 800W? cause thats a poor design for an LED. i meant 750-800W of LED produce more than 1000W of HPS

Ben-Ben · Oct 6, 2016

@CobKits doesn't need to be a single fixture

PetFlora · Oct 6, 2016

Hybridway said:
If you're looking to replace a 1000-1200w DE, the Amare Pro-9 would be your best bet. Comes with an in-line cooling option too.
It actually exceeds a Gavita DE. That would be the most efficient & effective led replacement for a DE Gavita. It's made specifically for commercial applications.
I'll read back to see what's going on here later. But check into it. I can pretty much guarantee you that's the best led DE replacement you'll find.
Good luck!
Read back. Seems nobody actually recommended anything. Check out the Pro-9. Plenty of documented grows, 5 yr Warrenty, good pricing & honest company who's owner is a grower too & built his lights specifically for MJ! Can't beat it!
Check out my journals if you wanna see some Other of their models in action. They rock!

but where can anyone find a Pro 9 product page?

as to efficiency depends on what you are asking for specifically (or maybe they're both the same, I am high)...

least amount of electrical use for 1000w

example (I know lumens are for humans)

100w @ 150 l/w
150w @ 100 l/w

They're the same to the plant, no?

umols/w should be the example, but I'm too high to go there. Anybody?

CobKits · Oct 6, 2016

the simplest HPS replacement is a 9-cob passive array on a 36" or 40" frame. ~ 700W- about $750 in parts, another ~$200 if you want it assembled and tested. no moving parts, no bulbs to replace, 30%+ electricalsavings not considering cooling load reduction

PSUAGRO. · Oct 6, 2016

tstick said:
I think Apache Tech also has some kind of IP rating or UL thing...not sure, though. Their AT 600 is supposed to be a swap for a 1000 watt HID. Those have been reported to be great small diode array lights....why they haven't gone to COBs is beyond me...why they haven't lowered their prices on their old technology is beyond me, too...but there ya go!

I forgot about the famous^^ AT660(UL) too for a 1k swap..........................can't remember them all!lol

Ben-Ben said:
@PSUAGRO. Well i hope 5000k works for veg and flower that would be IDEAL.

I would suggest supplementing(monos 630/660) with straight 5000k or half 3000k/5000k like the Nextlight recipe===== which has shown some great results here.

Rahz · Oct 6, 2016

1000DE:
1000w x 1.7umol/j = 1700 PPF

3X T3-2100:
675w x 2.3umol/j = 1552 PPF with less reflective loss. $1590
Low stock intentionally but they can be put together quickly.

3x T4-2100:
900w x 2.3umol/j = 2070 PPF $1950

Hybridway · Oct 6, 2016

PetFlora said:
but where can anyone find a Pro 9 product page?

as to efficiency depends on what you are asking for specifically (or maybe they're both the same, I am high)...

least amount of electrical use for 1000w

example (I know lumens are for humans)

100w @ 150 l/w
150w @ 100 l/w

They're the same to the plant, no?

umols/w should be the example, but I'm too high to go there. Anybody?

Here's it is. I'd buy from Amare direct though.

https://www.ledgrowlightsdepot.com/collections/new-led-grow-light-products/products/amare-solarpro-sp900

I noticed this site has a typo or error. It says 3070's but they are 3590's.

Rahz · Oct 6, 2016

With some brands it's difficult to figure out what the umol/w is, or PPF or just PAR watts. Pretty important information for someone wanting to replace a 1000w DE.

BM9AGS · Oct 6, 2016

Hybridway said:
Here's it is. I'd buy from Amare direct though.
https://growlightcentral.com/products/amare-solarpro-900-cob-led-grow-light?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&variant=25488741255&gclid=Cj0KEQjw7Ne_BRDRmP2ojKfzv98BEiQAPuqPyfivJzfwLkrJiavvk-xQ-wZpacLcjYjAZNXfPTEHezoaAtSe8P8HAQ

$2,000 is absurd. What cobs are those?

You said most efficient and they're not! The bcblondes 16 cxb3590 would crush this in intensity and efficiency at same wattage.

Why do you always spout average
Lights as best when they're not best efficiency or anything really they're just average lights for an absurd price.

You could even do way better with chilled DIY and timber DIY. Or fluense or a handful of better options out there. That amate light only mildly covers a 5x5.

You have to be affiliated to this company there's no question now.

MeGaKiLlErMaN · Oct 6, 2016

BM9AGS said:
$2,000 is absurd. What cobs are those?

You said most efficient and they're not! The bcblondes 16 cxb3590 would crush this in intensity and efficiency at same wattage.

Why do you always spout average
Lights as best when they're not best efficiency or anything really they're just average lights for an absurd price.

You could even do way better with chilled DIY and timber DIY. Or fluense or a handful of better options out there. That amate light only mildly covers a 5x5.

You have to be affiliated to this company there's no question now.

Shoot my DIY cost me 1200 and that's a good setup, next should be $850-800 and be more efficient. It's all about knowing, some peeps just don't get it and others try to exploit the ignorant.

Ben-Ben · Oct 6, 2016

CobKits said:
the simplest HPS replacement is a 9-cob passive array on a 36" or 40" frame. ~ 700W- about $750 in parts, another ~$200 if you want it assembled and tested. no moving parts, no bulbs to replace, 30%+ electricalsavings not considering cooling load reduction

@CobKits please point me to this setup Thanks

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