Olive Drab Green
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I do. I guarantee it. Based on PPFD. 600w of COB puts out more PPFD than a 1000w HPS. I don't have 600w, though. I have 241w, equivalent to 600w worth of HPS.
Hybridway
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Lol! Is that what Rahz told you?
I pull about 1# off my 600 HPS. You think you will too @ 241?
Olive Drab Green
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No. That is what top bin CXB3590s and seventh gen Vero29C register on a PAR meter/spectrometer. But yes, Rahz had confirned it, as well.
You're silly. Don't you see all the other COB growers willing to shut you up besides me?
Hybridway
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Nobody shits up the truth bud.
If you want an honest answer of what you should expect, I'll tell you.
A decent grower should get about 1 GPW on average using cobs.
N that's the truth.
You're being mislead homie.
Greengenes707
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Simple questions... How many grows have you completed? What were the results(actual yield #'s)? What lights? And now that you have admitted to never flowered anything with a COB, but make outrageous claims that make even the most outlandish members call you out...what were YOUR COB yileds???
Olive Drab Green
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So by your logic, Amare is full of shit, too. Meaning, you should probably shut the fuck up, yourself.
Hybridway
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Oh WOW! You're OC!
Bothe GG & I actually grow. Something you are forgetting I think.
Olive Drab Green
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More than you have to show for. Nonetheless, nice nug there.
As for COB, it's basic understanding of PPFD. Don't worry, you'll catch up someday.
Evil-Mobo
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Bro are you drunk?
You have nothing to back up any of your claims and just mouthed off to probably two of the best growers we have here in this section and told one of them he will "catch up" to you..........
You have officially lost it man
Olive Drab Green
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I think we all grow here. Something you're forgetting: We're on a grow site. It took me a minute to find my setup's needs, but I did, and I still outperformed in the process.
Done with you guys.
And you still have yet to show me 2lbs per 600w SunCloak and 10-12lbs worth of an HID grow.
Olive Drab Green
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Haven't lost shit. My grow journal is available. Watch and learn, or fuck yourself. I don't really care either way.
Evil-Mobo
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Typical LED troll BS. When you get caught in an outlandish claim with no backup resort to insults and poof gone. If I ever want to learn how to take twice as long to veg as I do now to grow half the plant then yes I will go look at your log lol...........
Olive Drab Green
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Amare's got you looking at false data, and you think a guy who owns his own business would risk money putting out subpar shit? Dude, you're seriously out of your mind retarded.
Olive Drab Green
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LEDs and COBs are two different animals. COBs were invented to replace HIDs in highbay/lowbay industrial applications. LED panels weren't. Your ignorance is showing hard.
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Greengenes707
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A cob is a form of white phosphor conversion. Just as are many LED's...1w 3w 5w, 1/2w...
A cob is 130 to 200+ single LED's put onto the same substrate and covered in one silicone LES. It is simply a tight group of small single LED's.
The fact that you don't know that and try to use COB as some mystical form of led is just adding to your delusional status that you have been expressing for the last couple of pages. And if we really want to get down to it...COBs are made from mid bin wafers...single dies and smaller packages get the good wafers...that won't change anytime soon.
Please learn what you are trying to "teach the world". And please complete a grow and get some experience before you go making a fool of yourself. It will help you, to not embarrass yourself, and help others by not having to read loads of false bullshit that you have no experience about but put forth like gospel.
Olive Drab Green
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You guys think it's small because I have the lights close enough to limit vertical growth. Don't you know? Plants grow vertical when they aren't getting adequate light. So mine isn't small, and during flower, under 10/14, you are going to be pretty embarrassed you didn't shut your mouths.
Olive Drab Green
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LEDs in 5w or less weren't invented to be bright nor light factories. COBs were. Diodes were invented to show you a TV was on. Again, you are showing the limits of your knowledge by comparing the two.
Rahz
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Honestly I'm surprised 1.5 is perceived as an outlandish claim at this point in the game. There are factors that limit yield, PH to high or low, to many nutes, not enough nutes, root rot, too much water, not enough water, humidity too high/low, canopy temp to high/low, insufficient air exchange, etc. but when everything is dialed in there's no reason why people shouldn't be hitting those numbers from mid to high yield strains if the lamp output provides at least .5 par watts per watt.
I went from .7 GPW under CFL to 1.25 under 35% efficient Vero 18, just like that. Results under gen5 Vero 29 at .7 amps was always between 1.45 and 1.68 GPW over various strains. I had some experience under my belt at that point but I'm not a master grower or anything. Perhaps my expectations are unrealistic
I went from .7 GPW under CFL to 1.25 under 35% efficient Vero 18, just like that. Results under gen5 Vero 29 at .7 amps was always between 1.45 and 1.68 GPW over various strains. I had some experience under my belt at that point but I'm not a master grower or anything. Perhaps my expectations are unrealistic