Millionaire ron paul flies first class on your tax dollars

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
So you admit that you expect him to pay out of his own pocket?
he doesn't even have to. but he would if he were serious about saving the taxpayers' money.

if he was serious about saving the american taxpayer money, a little mental calculus tells us that it would take about 50 canceled flights to add up to the $25,000 he lumps onto the taxpayers by going first class. something tells me that he doesn't have to cancel that many flights.

they also sell refundable tickets for coach, ya know.
 

GreenGurl

Well-Known Member
"We always get him full refundable tickets since the congressional schedule sometimes changes quickly," said Jeff Deist, Paul's chief of staff. Paul might have to pay out of his own pocket for canceled flights in some cases if he didn't buy refundable tickets, Deist said.
Okay, so this leads me to mention that I work for "local" government (I am SO TIRED of the narc talk so save your breath and blow it up your own paranoid ass, please!) and it's totally the norm to book refundable tickets. They are more expensive than a regular "non-contract, non-refundable" fare, but that's just the cost of doing business... In the long run, it would be MORE costly the other way around... I know, all commerce is a fucking racket, I'm with you!!!

And on that note, I think it's CRAZY that we pay for politicians to fly around so much. Where the fuck are they going? Seriously, there should be a limit that each job description is allowed to spend, and they should be strictly held to that. If you are on a super committee and you have to fly to the super Bahamas, that is fine. But just because some senator from Oklahoma decides she is interested all of a sudden in the rain forest and she takes her family, well, I call bullshit. (I just totally made that up.)

Oh, and first class is TOTALLY BULLSHIT!
 

beardo

Well-Known Member
he doesn't even have to. but he would if he were serious about saving the taxpayers' money.

if he was serious about saving the american taxpayer money, a little mental calculus tells us that it would take about 50 canceled flights to add up to the $25,000 he lumps onto the taxpayers by going first class. something tells me that he doesn't have to cancel that many flights.

they also sell refundable tickets for coach, ya know.
Isn't travel part of his job and this is an expense that his employer provides for?
And we employ his so we pay the cost of him doing his job
 

sync0s

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/16/paul-fights-washington-sp_1_n_1208775.html?ref=politics

"Paul paid $51,972 for his government-rate flights between Washington and Houston between May 2009 and March 2011, or more than twice the $24,351 average airfare on Continental for travel between Washington and Houston."

he's a millionaire, why is he using our money to get a better seat? hypocritical little gnome.
I almost posted this myself earlier. Unlike other Ron Paul supporters I'm not going to rush to his defense on this one. He's got to defend himself and I'm sure it will come up soon. Otherwise, if he avoids answering it or anything like that then I'm voting for Johnson.

my dumbass said:
I don't understand whats with the inconsistent numbers that are being reported though.

Boston Globe said:
Paul charged taxpayers nearly $52,000 on the more expensive tickets, or $27,621 more than the average Continental airfare for the flights between Washington and Houston.
^ I really need to learn to pay more attention lol..

That being said, I know you saw this as important message to get out (fully justified), but remember that whole thing about being fair with the thread mergers? I've been working hard to keep ron paul shit in ron paul threads...

:)
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Isn't travel part of his job and this is an expense that his employer provides for?
And we employ his so we pay the cost of him doing his job
as i've said, i have no problem footing the bill for this millionaire's airfare, although i think the hefty paycheck he makes as a congressperson can cover it easily.

what i do have a problem with is him preaching about being so fiscally conservative, yet foisting $25,000 worth of upgrades to first class upon taxpayers like you and i.

he is a hypocritical old gnome.
 

beardo

Well-Known Member
What kind of vacation plans do you think Ron Paul has planned for himself and his family during his first term as president?
 

budlover13

King Tut
Okay, so this leads me to mention that I work for local government (I am SO TIRED of the narc talk so save your breath and blow it up your own paranoid ass, please!) and it's totally the norm to book refundable tickets. They are more expensive than a regular "non-contract, non-refundable" fare, but that's just the cost of doing business... In the long run, it would be MORE costly the other way around... I know, all commerce is a fucking racket, I'm with you!!!

And on that note, I think it's fucking stupid that we pay for politicians to fly around for such an expense. Where the fuck are they going so much? Seriously, there should be a limit that each job description is allowed to spend, and they should be limited to that. If you are on a super committee and you have to fly to the super Bahamas, that is fine. But just because some senator from Oklahoma decides she is interested all of a sudden in the rain forest and she takes her family, well, I call bullshit. (I just totally made that up.)

Oh, and first class is TOTALLY BULLSHIT!
No narc talk here lol. Not by me anyways.

If he were flying to all sorts of places not normally considered to be part of his normal business i could see griping but when they are flights between Washington and Texas, i think they are kinda necessary.
 

PerfectNPK

Member
the comparison in this thread is between ron paul's talk and ron paul's walk.
Ron Paul's walk backs up his talk 99.99% of the time. The man is consistent on everything, has been forever, and his walk is still a whole shit ton straighter than the competition.

If it'll make you happy, I would gladly donate 25,000 to the federal cocksuckers for reimbursement. Oh, wait.... They rape me on taxes every year, so I guess were finally even.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
I almost posted this myself earlier. Unlike other Ron Paul supporters I'm not going to rush to his defense on this one. He's got to defend himself and I'm sure it will come up soon. Otherwise, if he avoids answering it or anything like that then I'm voting for Johnson.

I don't understand whats with the inconsistent numbers that are being reported though.



That being said, I know you saw this as important message to get out (fully justified), but remember that whole thing about being fair with the thread mergers? I've been working hard to keep ron paul shit in ron paul threads...

:)
this is a non-issue. i could care less about it, really. i just wanted to rile the paulbots.

if this comes up in the MSM or as an issue whatsoever, that will just be another indictment of how badly this country sucks at focusing on what's important in a leader.

and yes, i may merge this into a ron paul thread once it dies down, but i have laid off the merging thing ever since people (like yourself) took it upon themselves to make an effort.

the only threads i have merged were two anti-ron paul threads by sistermaryelephant.
 

beardo

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what i do have a problem with is him preaching about being so fiscally conservative, yet foisting $25,000 worth of upgrades to first class upon taxpayers like you and i.
This pisses me off to if it is true-
I would like to think Ron Paul would be pissed to, unless what your saying is true- maybe he does not know- did he request an upgrade?
I think we should call and write him and try to talk to him and find out
 

GreenGurl

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And I would be surprised if he made the choice to upgrade; he's probably got two people who would handle those administrative arrangements. (No dig, just an educated guess.)
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/16/paul-fights-washington-sp_1_n_1208775.html?ref=politics

"Paul paid $51,972 for his government-rate flights between Washington and Houston between May 2009 and March 2011, or more than twice the $24,351 average airfare on Continental for travel between Washington and Houston."

he's a millionaire, why is he using our money to get a better seat? hypocritical little gnome.
Just wondering. Where does a guy like Ron Paul who has made between $100-174k a year come up with 5-6 million dollars? He seems to have somehow saved up more money than he's earned from his lifetime total congressional salary. That's really impressive.

Either Ron Paul really is the second coming of Jesus when it comes to economics, being the most successful money manager in the history of the world, or he's just another corrupt politician stealing every penny he can get his hands on.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
So is he going home every weekend or something? REALLY? Blows my mind...
$50,000 over 2 years = $25,000 a year = about $500 a week just to fly this old gnome around.

$50,000 per year per congressman x 435 congressmen = ~$22,000,000 (that's $22 million dollars)

with $22 million, we could have saved the life of every person in arizona that brewer condemned to death by kicking them off the transplant list many times over.

we flew around a bunch of empty suits instead, and paid them $174,000 a year to boot. throw on another $76 million dollars or so.

$98 million a year just to pay these asshats and fly them around means about $1 from every single taxpayer in the country.
 

sync0s

Well-Known Member
this is a non-issue. i could care less about it, really. i just wanted to rile the paulbots.

if this comes up in the MSM or as an issue whatsoever, that will just be another indictment of how badly this country sucks at focusing on what's important in a leader.
If that was your mission, obviously you were successful lol.

and yes, i may merge this into a ron paul thread once it dies down, but i have laid off the merging thing ever since people (like yourself) took it upon themselves to make an effort.

the only threads i have merged were two anti-ron paul threads by sistermaryelephant.
Don't mind me, just checking my friend
 

budlover13

King Tut
And I would be surprised if he made the choice to upgrade; he's probably got two people who would handle those administrative arrangements. (No dig, just an educated guess.)
i would tend to agree with you that he probably didn't have anything to do with upgrading. As to how many people he has managing his itinerary, idk.
 

Carne Seca

Well-Known Member
LOL This is hilarious. His purist ideology is practiced on his campaign staff and the rest of the nation but when it comes to his personal comfort? Yes, such a purist. So upright and incorruptible. I can't wait until he loses the nomination.
 
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