Millionaire ron paul flies first class on your tax dollars

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Lol!......

So who wants to look up all congressional travel expenses and see where he statnds in comparison to the others?
why should i give a shit how he stacks up next to others? i am only interested in how he stacks up against his own lofty rhetoric.

the guy spends more money than i make in a year for leg room that the old, osteoporotic midget doesn't even need.

and yet all you guys do is deflect, obfuscate, even defend his hypocrisy.

:clap:
 

budlover13

King Tut
Even though he expounds the virtues of not using taxpayer money and preaches on high about wasteful government spending. What a hypocrite. But it's o.k., because it's Ron the Paul and whatever he does is o.k.. Even if it goes against what he stands for. Hilarious. This just gets better and better. LOL
Well, the money's gotta come from somewhere so i would like to see how his travel expenses compare to other elected officials. i would be surprised if he's in the top half of travel expenditures. Then we take away the amount that he's returned from his congressional budget and i would say he is likely managing those tax dollars rather well. Just because he suggests that tax dollars shouldn't be frivolously spent doesn't mean he says they shouldn't be spent at all lol.

So, if one wishes to attack him on the grounds of travel expenses, let's see how he compares to the rest of congress.
 

budlover13

King Tut
why should i give a shit how he stacks up next to others? i am only interested in how he stacks up against his own lofty rhetoric.

the guy spends more money than i make in a year for leg room that the old, osteoporotic midget doesn't even need.

and yet all you guys do is deflect, obfuscate, even defend his hypocrisy.

:clap:
You guys are absolutely laughable lol. i knew there was a reason i didn't take you very seriously.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Well, the money's gotta come from somewhere so i would like to see how his travel expenses compare to other elected officials. i would be surprised if he's in the top half of travel expenditures. Then we take away the amount that he's returned from his congressional budget and i would say he is likely managing those tax dollars rather well. Just because he suggests that tax dollars shouldn't be frivolously spent doesn't mean he says they shouldn't be spent at all lol.

So, if one wishes to attack him on the grounds of travel expenses, let's see how he compares to the rest of congress.
again, it does not matter how he stacks up against OTHERS.

what matters is how he stacks up against HIS OWN RHETORIC.

the man is a millionaire, yet taxpayers like me have to foot $25,000+ worth of upgrades for the guy?

hypocritical old gnome.

$25,000 would go a long way in my house, how about you, budlover?
 

budlover13

King Tut
now you're trying to take the heat off of paul by attacking me.

:clap:
Now i am pointing out that you seem to think that all congressional members should travel on their own dime. i would say that if he is on the lower end of total travel expenditures for congress members then he is well within reason to spend the extra money to make sure he can keep his schedules without having to pay an exhorbitant fee to switch his flights. Kinda like that whole insurance idea imo.
 

PerfectNPK

Member

he's a millionaire, why is he using our money to get a better seat? hypocritical little gnome.
I'm sure you knew when you read this that the Huffington Post got it's name from huffing smoke up the ass of all who read it, right? :?

Doesn't this happen every time Paul, or any candidate gets ahead that the rich fat bastards don't like.
They all want the biggest worthless piece of shit that they can buy into office. It's easy control, and Paul can't be controlled. The man knows what he wants and it scares the shit out of the asshats that "think" they run this country.

Would love to see a comparison between Paul and the rest.


Think before you vote.
Oh, and Paul, he would end this 60+ year waste of "our money" drug war within his first year. :weed:

I sincerely hope you or anyone else wont be casting a vote for the douche bag in this video: http://youtu.be/WtyE0-QCmY8
 

budlover13

King Tut
why should i give a shit how he stacks up next to others? i am only interested in how he stacks up against his own lofty rhetoric.

the guy spends more money than i make in a year for leg room that the old, osteoporotic midget doesn't even need.

and yet all you guys do is deflect, obfuscate, even defend his hypocrisy.

:clap:
Ummm, because it's relevant.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
...you seem to think that all congressional members should travel on their own dime...
nope, never said that.

in fact, i have no problem with footing the bill for their airfare.

what i do have a problem with is the $25,000 gap between ron paul's rhetoric and his actions.

actions DO speak louder than words.
 

budlover13

King Tut
what's relevant is if he walks the walk after talking the talk.

and it is pretty clear that he does not. $25,000+ clear.
Again, travel is expensive. Show me that he has spent significantly more or even equal to other congressional members on travel expenses while taking into account number of trips and schedules and i might entertain the idea that he isn't doing his best to balance being where he needs to be, when he needs to be there at the most affordable and flexible rates.
 

budlover13

King Tut
nope, never said that.

in fact, i have no problem with footing the bill for their airfare.

what i do have a problem with is the $25,000 gap between ron paul's rhetoric and his actions.

actions DO speak louder than words.
What gap? Insurance is expensive and that is the reason that his campaign has stated for his first class flying. You would rather him miss key votes so he can travel coach?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Show me that he has spent significantly more or even equal to other congressional members...
again, that's not the point. let me say it again: this thread is about RON PAUL. i rarely start ron paul threads, so when i do, i like to make them actually about RON PAUL.

this thread is not about: other members of congress. unless they are preaching rhetoric like ron paul, i could give two shits less what they spend on first class seats. and if they do have a similar hypocrisy problem as ron paul, then that is another thread.

What gap? Insurance is expensive and that is the reason that his campaign has stated for his first class flying. You would rather him miss key votes so he can travel coach?
miss key votes so he could travel coach? what?

if the only way to make it to key vote that came as a surprise (rather than something he should have planned for), that is one thing. but that is not the case here.

what we are dealing with here is an old millionaire who preaches about excessive government spending, then has the government foot the $25,000+ bill for a fancier seat on the plane. hypocrisy, plain and simple.

you keep trying to make this about: is he spending more than others? well, if everyone else was spending excessively, would that make it Ok for ron paul to do the same, especially considering his rhetoric? :dunce:

and you might not want to talk about insurance. maybe if the old, hypocrite millionaire had sprung for health insurance, kent snyder might still be alive.

he'll spend $25,000 worth of government cheese for more leg room, but won't spend the money to make sure his own staffers can go to the doctor without going bankrupt.

:clap:
 

budlover13

King Tut
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/282599/20120117/ron-paul-2012-those-first-class-flights.htm

In that year, Paul spent $56,000 on travel expenses, which makes him the 178th biggest travel spender in Congress. In contrast, the top spender on travel, Don Young, R-Alaska, dropped $234,000.
As for overall spending (the Sunlight Foundation includes the categories of franked mail, personnel compensation, travel, rent, printing, supplies, equipment and other services), Paul shelled out $1.37 million, which places him 232nd.
This compares to the $1.66 million spent by then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi, R-Calif., the top overall spender for 2010.
Paul’s spending as a congressman, therefore, seems middle-of-the-pack – not scandalous – as some articles are implying.
 

unohu69

Well-Known Member
you want a do over ?

"The Mitt Romney campaign spent nearly $100,000 more on private planes than commercial flights during the third fundraising quarter, according to financial disclosure reports made public today.

The campaign spent $233,911 on three private aviation companies listed in the report as “air travel.” Marquis Jet Partners, described on its website as “the gold standard for private aviation,” was paid more than $135,000 by the campaign."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/romney-spent-thousands-on-private-planes/


Mitt Robamney , same suit different tie.
 

budlover13

King Tut
again, that's not the point. let me say it again: this thread is about RON PAUL. i rarely start ron paul threads, so when i do, i like to make them actually about RON PAUL.

this thread is not about: other members of congress. unless they are preaching rhetoric like ron paul, i could give two shits less what they spend on first class seats. and if they do have a similar hypocrisy problem as ron paul, then that is another thread.



miss key votes so he could travel coach? what?

if the only way to make it to key vote that came as a surprise (rather than something he should have planned for), that is one thing. but that is not the case here.

what we are dealing with here is an old millionaire who preaches about excessive government spending, then has the government foot the $25,000+ bill for a fancier seat on the plane. hypocrisy, plain and simple.

you keep trying to make this about: is he spending more than others? well, if everyone else was spending excessively, would that make it Ok for ron paul to do the same, especially considering his rhetoric? :dunce:

and you might not want to talk about insurance. maybe if the old, hypocrite millionaire had sprung for health insurance, kent snyder might still be alive.

he'll spend $25,000 worth of government cheese for more leg room, but won't spend the money to make sure his own staffers can go to the doctor without going bankrupt.

:clap:
You repeatedly refer to the expenditures as being for "extra leg room" and totally discount the press release from his campaign regarding the extra money that a hectic and fluid schedule would likely entail. :roll:
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/282599/20120117/ron-paul-2012-those-first-class-flights.htm

In that year, Paul spent $56,000 on travel expenses, which makes him the 178th biggest travel spender in Congress. In contrast, the top spender on travel, Don Young, R-Alaska, dropped $234,000.
As for overall spending (the Sunlight Foundation includes the categories of franked mail, personnel compensation, travel, rent, printing, supplies, equipment and other services), Paul shelled out $1.37 million, which places him 232nd.
This compares to the $1.66 million spent by then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi, R-Calif., the top overall spender for 2010.
Paul’s spending as a congressman, therefore, seems middle-of-the-pack – not scandalous – as some articles are implying.
seriously, what the fuck?

every thread that is not about ron paul devolves into a ron paul thread.

now, i actually start a ron paul thread, and you want to make it about what everyone ELSE spends?

LOL!

by the way, 178/435 puts him in the top 40% of spenders. and how surprising is it that the speaker of the house had the highest expenses? just shocking.

now can we please stop talking about everyone else and focus on ron paul?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
you want a do over ?

"The Mitt Romney campaign spent nearly $100,000 more on private planes than commercial flights during the third fundraising quarter, according to financial disclosure reports made public today.

The campaign spent $233,911 on three private aviation companies listed in the report as “air travel.” Marquis Jet Partners, described on its website as “the gold standard for private aviation,” was paid more than $135,000 by the campaign."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/romney-spent-thousands-on-private-planes/


Mitt Robamney , same suit different tie.
ron paul supporters suddenly no longer want to talk about ron paul.

LOL!
 
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