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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I've seen plans for an offshore pipeline from the mouth of the Columbia river in Oregon to SoCal.
With climate change, I don’t think that will be a solution in the long term. Some of the wilder ideas, like bagging bergs, sound stupid expensive to me.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I am curious to see how the tech operates in the real world.
Heat pumps with ground loops should work well in a large number of locations the more extreme the seasonal variation the better. 5 watts out for 1 watt in is the draw and for a place like Europe, it could dramatically lower energy usage. With incentives, there would be a multitude of contractors and manufactures in no time flat to do heat pump and insulation upgrades, high energy costs help a lot with motivation too. I imagine with new construction there it might be mandatory in some cases, or will be.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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False dichotomy. Water can be imported. Desert area, not so much.
i don't know about the dichotomy...but choosing to live in a desert and then drawing water away from the areas where it naturally flows to irrigate the desert seems pretty fucking invasive already, and pretty fucking unfair to those having to change their life styles to support yours
 

DIY-HP-LED

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i don't know about the dichotomy...but choosing to live in a desert and then drawing water away from the areas where it naturally flows to irrigate the desert seems pretty fucking invasive already, and pretty fucking unfair to those having to change their life styles to support yours
I figure things got pretty bad when covid had to save your asses from Trump by killing so many citizens with malicious incompetence. The richest country in the world with 25% of the covid deaths at the time, everybody else looked on in horror. He caught covid a few weeks before the election FFS and was the WH typhoid Mary, the election was his to lose and he managed to do it! Ya dodged the bullet with Trump, but as a bonus ya foiled Mitch's plan to strangle American democracy slowly too. Trump sucker punched Uncle Sam square in the face, woke him up and pissed him off, now Trump will suffer the consequences and so will his supporters.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Heat pumps with ground loops should work well in a large number of locations the more extreme the seasonal variation the better. 5 watts out for 1 watt in is the draw and for a place like Europe, it could dramatically lower energy usage. With incentives, there would be a multitude of contractors and manufactures in no time flat to do heat pump and insulation upgrades, high energy costs help a lot with motivation too. I imagine with new construction there it might be mandatory in some cases, or will be.
I keep poking at the margins because that is where the tech must still work. Also, hundred- and thousand-year extremes are constantly being moved toward the more severe as the climate slowly responds to our inputs.

The cautionary tale here is the Texas utility grid. It failed with deadly consequence, because it was designed for average conditions and not the extremes.

The evolving cautionary tale is dependence on rivers like the Colorado and now the Danube.

The “live somewhere else” nonsolution is very expensive. People are already packed into the nicer spots, and the rents they pay reflect the fact of it. Even many of them are under threat as hydrological patterns go sideways.
 

printer

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Graham defends ‘riots in the streets’ comment, says he tried to ‘state the obvious’
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Saturday defended his recent warning of “riots in the streets” if former President Trump is prosecuted for his handling of classified materials.
“What I tried to do was state the obvious,” Graham told CNBC’s Steve Sedgwick during an interview at the Ambrosetti Forum in Italy.

“Here’s what I said: The raid on President Trump’s home, the likely nominee for 2024, better bear some fruit here,” Graham continued. “If it’s just about mishandling classified information, we’ve had a standard set when it came to Hillary Clinton.”
Federal agents executed a search warrant at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence on Aug. 8, when they recovered some 33 boxes containing more than 100 classified records.

The search was connected to the Justice Department’s investigation into whether Trump violated the Espionage Act and two other federal statutes, which do not rely on the records being classified. The investigations have led to swirling speculation about whether Trump will ultimately be prosecuted.

Graham made the controversial remark last Sunday during an appearance on Fox News’s “Sunday Night in America” with host Trey Gowdy, a former lawmaker who chaired the House’s select committee investigating the 2012 Benghazi terror attack that uncovered a private email server used by Clinton.

“If there’s a prosecution of Donald Trump for mishandling classified information after the Clinton debacle … there’ll be riots in the streets,” Graham told Gowdy.

Graham and other Republicans have repeatedly referenced the scandal in characterizing any potential prosecution of Trump as a double standard. Then-FBI Director James Comey described Clinton’s server as “extremely careless,” but the agency declined to prosecute her for mishandling classified information.

“Our country, the people on our side, believe that when it comes to the justice system, there are no rules regarding Trump,” Graham said on Saturday, adding that its a case of “‘Get him. It doesn’t matter how you get him,’ so I said that if it’s similar to what happened to Clinton and he gets prosecuted, it’ll be one of the most disruptive events in America.”

During the interview, the South Carolina Republican also defended his actions following the 2020 presidential election, which are now part of an ongoing court battle with the Fulton County, Ga., district attorney.

Fani Willis, the Democratic district attorney, has sought Graham’s testimony as part of her investigation into whether Trump or his allies unlawfully attempted to overturn the 2020 presidential election in the state.

But Graham has argued a constitutional provision protecting lawmakers from lawsuits and prosecution for things they say and do as part of their legislative work allows him to avoid testifying.
A federal judge on Thursday largely denied Graham’s bid to quash the subpoena; however, Graham said he remained confident his effort to avoid testifying would ultimately succeed.

“I think the court is going to recognize that my activities as a United States senator was covered by the Speech and Debate Clause, that the county prosecutor’s desire to bring me down to Georgia oversteps the Constitution,” he told CNBC.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I use very little water.
not you in particular...
if water flows in a river in northern California, enough to supply the local inhabitants, but they have to conserve, and supplement their supplies with outside sources, because fucking fools built a town with NO local water availability, and are now taking half of the water that should be supplying non fools who didn't build a foolish town in a foolish place...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I keep poking at the margins because that is where the tech must still work. Also, hundred- and thousand-year extremes are constantly being moved toward the more severe as the climate slowly responds to our inputs.

The cautionary tale here is the Texas utility grid. It failed with deadly consequence, because it was designed for average conditions and not the extremes.

The evolving cautionary tale is dependence on rivers like the Colorado and now the Danube.

The “live somewhere else” nonsolution is very expensive. People are already packed into the nicer spots, and the rents they pay reflect the fact of it. Even many of them are under threat as hydrological patterns go sideways.
I figure humanity is on a technological rollercoaster ride into the future with no getting off. The answers to these issues will be living smarter and using new technologies smarter. Living with less with become more common as we must all reduce our environmental footprint. With in a century I figure the human population will shrink quite a bit with the spread of technology and the emancipation of women. Liberal democracies lead to the most responsible and accountable governments, so they must spread along with cultural and technological change. People can still continue to live as simple a life as they choose, but more primitive technological options often involve more physical work. Climate change is a current fact of life and it will get worse, or so the experts say. Who knows, in a decade or two dozens of new tech geothermal power stations could power massive desalination plants in California and be pumping water far inland.
 

doublejj

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Former NBA superstar Dwyane Wade is one of Southern California’s biggest water wasters
Utah Jazz part-owner is listed among the Kardashians, Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Hart for exceeding their water budgets

Drought-stricken Southern California is home to some of the country’s most famous celebrities, who also appear to be the state’s worst water hogs.

That’s according to a report released Monday by the Los Angeles Times, which listed Kim and Kourtney Kardashian, Sylvester Stallone and Kevin Hart among 2,000 Las Virgenes Municipal Water District customers who exceeded their monthly water budgets at least four times in the last year.

One of the worst offenders is former NBA superstar and Utah Jazz part-owner Dwyane Wade, who in May used a whopping 489,000 gallons more than his water budget allowed, according to records obtained by the Times.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
not you in particular...
if water flows in a river in northern California, enough to supply the local inhabitants, but they have to conserve, and supplement their supplies with outside sources, because fucking fools built a town with NO local water availability, and are now taking half of the water that should be supplying non fools who didn't build a foolish town in a foolish place...
You used second person singular.

I checked my old bills here in coyote country. Each month they charge me for 1 unit (748 gallons) though I doubt I use even half that. They don’t round to zero.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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But Graham has argued a constitutional provision protecting lawmakers from lawsuits and prosecution for things they say and do as part of their legislative work allows him to avoid testifying.
A federal judge on Thursday largely denied Graham’s bid to quash the subpoena; however, Graham said he remained confident his effort to avoid testifying would ultimately succeed.
so helping to overthrow the duly elected government of the United States is legitimate legislative work, and should be protected?...i'm so motherfucking sick of republican horseshit lying.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I figure humanity is on a technological rollercoaster ride into the future with no getting off. The answers to these issues will be living smarter and using new technologies smarter. Living with less with become more common as we must all reduce our environmental footprint. With in a century I figure the human population will shrink quite a bit with the spread of technology and the emancipation of women. Liberal democracies lead to the most responsible and accountable governments, so they must spread along with cultural and technological change. People can still continue to live as simple a life as they choose, but more primitive technological options often involve more physical work. Climate change is a current fact of life and it will get worse, or so the experts say. Who knows, in a decade or two dozens of new tech geothermal power stations could power massive desalination plants in California and be pumping water far inland.
Desalination has problems with where to put the brine without stressing littoral ecologies.

I can find no figures on what a gigawatt of geothermal at sustainable draw in nonvolcanic old terrain, like Nebraska or Quebec, would cost to capitalize and extract.

In the longer term, the answer is not to live on planets.
 

Budley Doright

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How expensive is it to install such a loop, and how long before it saturates at 10kW continuous?

Figure a Sierra Nevada location (or somewhere on the Canadian Shield craton) with solid granite (a famously poor thermoconductor) as the source/sink. No groundwater cheats.
About 45,000 for complete 5 ton loop or more depending on a few factors here, so yup that’s the issue right now for all but the well off folks.
Edit: to clarify that would be a complete basic name brand system. I started a lake loop this summer but stopped work as I now have 5 huge dead Ash trees that I need to get roped so that’s my money pit this year plus the new wood stove lol.
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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Desalination has problems with where to put the brine without stressing littoral ecologies.

I can find no figures on what a gigawatt of geothermal at sustainable draw in nonvolcanic old terrain, like Nebraska or Quebec, would cost to capitalize and extract.

In the longer term, the answer is not to live on planets.
time to start work on that dyson sphere? i lean towards the ring world solution, we've already been warned of a couple of possible problems, and their attendant solutions...now we just need to get to work on a scrith transmuter.
we could dump the magats on the far side and never have to worry about them again
i would say just leave them on Earth, but we'll need it for building materials, along with every other planet, moon, or asteroid of any size at all.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
time to start work on that dyson sphere? i lean towards the ring world solution, we've already been warned of a couple of possible problems, and their attendant solutions...now we just need to get to work on a scrith transmuter.
we could dump the magats on the far side and never have to worry about them again
i would say just leave them on Earth, but we'll need it for building materials, along with every other planet, moon, or asteroid of any size at all.
I don’t want to be tied to stars. That is a minuscule portion of available space. Even counting Kuiper space, that is a few ppm of what is available.

It also sucks tactically. There’s a reason crocs and leopards like watering holes.
 
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