Making a living as a caregiver

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somepotname

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I agree with cory and trevor's sentiment that Dr. Bob brings a unique and valuable perspective to this forum. For most of us here growing and smoking are big parts of our lives. RIU is a nice place to talk to like minded people however our mostly singular perspective can make us naive, ignorant, or just plain unaware of others perspectives. Dr. Bob brings a fresh face to things. Even if I don't agree with somethings he says, I am genuinely interested in what he has to say. I believe unleashing our mob on outside points of view is counter productive to our greater cause. We want to be inclusive. Or at least that's what this plant has taught me.
 
Murfy

Murfy

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i must apologize-

dr Bob, i'm sorry.

i am a bit sociopathic. i know nothing about you other than the generalities, as it were. once i heard the comment, i simply applied what i know of others that say the same.

'Having gathered these facts, Watson, I smoked several pipes over them, trying to separate those which were crucial from others which were merely incidental.'
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Sherlock Holmes Quote​
-The Crooked Man
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the fact that it rung true should offer the opportunity for inner reflection.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Cory and trevor said:
Sorry Bob. I know I was one of the first to roast you in here on this thread. I had high hopes of a doctor that really knew all about all parts of the cannabis medicine, projected it on you and was disappointed when you didn't have all the answers. I still disagree with a lot of your legal-type advice but you're valuable to our community in your capacity. I have disagreements with your legal interpretation at times and possibly some moral squabbles with you but I don't mean to discredit you or what you do. you stick your dick out for patients like the dispensary owners do that stay open and get closed and open up again to get meds to people etc. No reason to jam pile on you I just wanted more info than you have and that's my hang up not yours. I was hoping you'd be an encyclopedia of cannabis medicine and that's a pretty unfair assumption to have about anyone. I also shit on you for your interpretations of caregiving and that role but you should get your opinion too, I have mine. How's bout I just agree to disagree and tell you I think you're valuable as a certification doctor and patient advocate. it's not all negative and disagreement between you and I, I respect your medical knowledge. You seem to have already round about acknowledged my expertise as a caregiver and grower (if not personally about the general profession) so let's walk on this thread, the OP left a while ago LOL! No ignore setting necessary and no promise not to argue again, just not here in this thread today.
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Fucking eh!! Nice to see a reasonable, ADULT fucking response on this board!

It's OK if we all don't agree on everything. It actually might even benefit some of us to have our preconceived notions challenged a bit.

+rep Cory!

edit: apparently I got to spread it around some Cory
 
Usernamewastaken

Usernamewastaken

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My opinion: We all don't have the same point of views on everything but that doesn't mean that we can't work collectively for the same goal even if the reasons we wish to get to that goal line may not be the same...
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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bloodytrichomes said:
and what do you think the docs goal is
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To make money?

Who cares?!?! Are you going to tell me that you don't profit off of this?? Bloody, I have no idea where your rub with Dr Bob stems from, but I am personally sick and fucking tired of seeing every thread that he pops up in turn in to a gang bang. Are you that fucking bored? We don't all have to agree on everything. Where else in life do you find 100% consensus on anything?

He has his opinions, and you have yours. He is one of only a handful of Docs that sees the medical value in cannabis in this state and is willing to step up and write scripts for people. That's a valuable, and necessary service. You are one of only a handful of people that are involved in dispensaries. That's a valuable service as well.

We all want weed to be legal. But until it is this is a MEDICAL state, and a MEDICAL forum, and we need more Doctors stepping up to get involved ..... not the few that exist being chased away over stupid fucking nonsense.
 
Usernamewastaken

Usernamewastaken

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bloodytrichomes said:
and what do you think the docs goal is
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Without knowing him I would say to make some money... And if in doing so he helps to further the availability of something I love and have enjoyed for 21 years why should I object.

this day and age shit doesn't get moving on a large scale unless there is money to be made. Like it or not that is just the truth. I've learned to play the game.....
 
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bloodytrichomes

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st0wandgrow said:
To make money?

Who cares?!?! Are you going to tell me that you don't profit off of this?? Bloody, I have no idea where your rub with Dr Bob stems from, but I am personally sick and fucking tired of seeing every thread that he pops up in turn in to a gang bang. Are you that fucking bored? We don't all have to agree on everything. Where else in life do you find 100% consensus on anything?

He has his opinions, and you have yours. He is one of only a handful of Docs that sees the medical value in cannabis in this state and is willing to step up and write scripts for people. That's a valuable, and necessary service. You are one of only a handful of people that are involved in dispensaries. That's a valuable service as well.

We all want weed to be legal. But until it is this is a MEDICAL state, and a MEDICAL forum, and we need more Doctors stepping up to get involved ..... not the few that exist being chased away over stupid fucking nonsense.
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he is the reason there are less cert docs now open your eyes...do i profit yes i do and have for many years the plant is great i love it ...how am i involved in dispensarys????????? my rub comes from a person coming here and trying to tell us how to run our lives .my rub comes from a dr who felt the need to run other docs off so he could corner the market ..i hoped you was smarter then your presenting your self.a gang bang takes several people so dont try and single me out as there are alot who have posted in this and other threads regarding your docs position .perhaps you should ignore me and any others who dont buy into the docs bs
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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bloodytrichomes said:
he is the reason there are less cert docs now open your eyes...do i profit yes i do and have for many years the plant is great i love it ...how am i involved in dispensarys????????? my rub comes from a person coming here and trying to tell us how to run our lives .my rub comes from a dr who felt the need to run other docs off so he could corner the market ..i hoped you was smarter then your presenting your self.a gang bang takes several people so dont try and single me out as there are alot who have posted in this and other threads regarding your docs position .perhaps you should ignore me and any others who dont buy into the docs bs
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"he is the reason there are less cert docs now open your eye"

I find that hard to believe. Do you have any proof of this?

"my rub comes from a person coming here and trying to tell us how to run our lives"

Bullshit. He throws opinions out there just like anyone else. If you don't agree with him, fine, but keep the focus on the merits of your argument instead of the childish nonsense you always resort to.

"my rub comes from a dr who felt the need to run other docs off so he could corner the market ..i hoped you was smarter then your presenting your self."

Again, if you have any proof of this feel free to share it. I base my opinions off of what I see here on the forum.

"a gang bang takes several people so dont try and single me out as there are alot who have posted in this and other threads regarding your docs position"

True, but you're the only one who has made it your official pass time. And he's not my doc, btw. My doc has been arrested. :-)

"perhaps you should ignore me"

I do for the most part.
 
buckaroo bonzai

buckaroo bonzai

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gladstoned said:
I think LEO cheerleader was closer.
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nice to show the forum you got BIG BALLS glad!

you must spread some reputation around before giving it to gladstoned again-- ++REP!

....dr bob works with the state.....he helped change the laws---when will some of you understand this??

--->i could pull a hundred of his threads from different forums that could make you realize this....

--->b careful ...

.IMO he's only here to see who's who and into what and what---
after he burned all the other bridges to other forums this is the last one that needs work--or he can banter and advertise in

--if you go to his home site(3ma) they do nothing but discourage pts/CGs from opposing any legislation they are working on and constantly belittle or harass anyone that doesn't tow their agenda line...
many of his compadres are in here now supporting his BS in case you haven't noticed....these are LEOs...IMO
--helping him herd the cats (us)--and push the unambiguous compliance agenda...so they can bring the tax and regulate online--jmo

i mean what good is the card/law if you do any one thing wrong (1plant over) you have no protections...???....
any REAL growers knows if you try and grow the way they designed the law it is almost impossible to stay compliant...
almost everyone that has a garden I would bet is in violation.....how the fuk do you grow 12 plants and make $ doing that?????

.the law was designed for them to make $$off both sids of the fence....
and keep imposing more and more restrictions until it goes back underground and only the corp will be able to service sick pts

and there are threads by administrators there (3ma) talkin about 250lb "legal" warehouse grows forthe dispensaries..
but...they never addresses that there--seem funy??

---seem weird (?) they would argue with folks thereand here over 12plant compliance but not address an administrator that does warehouse grows for dispensaries...???

imo were all being pulled around by our dicks on roller skates by the lawyers dictating the law here....and bobs trying to look like one or keep hisrep withthe ones hes involved with--

--->where are the pt groups?
CCs ...? that do nothing but meet secretly in libraries and do nothing to support folks that got caught up...?

our law and all its fuked up shit is by design and bob is just helping the lawyers he works with --in his stakeholders group

i hate scum sucking lawyers that take money for defending people from corrupt laws....that they are part of

jst wait till you guys see what is coming by the end of the year!
you won't even think its the same law.......

in fact IMO this whole thread was to smoke you guy$ out that are trying to make a living....

i am a carpenter for 25yrs and glad I make my living that way....
but the hair on my neck stands up whenever I'm around LEO or reading threads by a certain dr---
i can't even go read on 3ma site anymore the whole site is dedicated to herding cats and asleep stoner noobies

should I pull the thread where bob states he's the state recognized authority now on bona fide language.....??

please don't make me do tha I got enuf on my plate-- wake up !! :leaf:

i got funerals to go to---3of my relatives died over the weekend.....and dad is close!
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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buckaroo bonzai said:


nice to show the forum you got BIG BALLS glad!

you must spread some reputation around before giving it to gladstoned again-- ++REP!

....dr bob works with the state.....he helped change the laws---when will some of you understand this??

--->i could pull a hundred of his threads from different forums that could make you realize this....

--->b careful ...

.IMO he's only here to see who's who and into what and what---
after he burned all the other bridges to other forums this is the last one that needs work--or he can banter and advertise in

--if you go to his home site(3ma) they do nothing but discourage pts/CGs from opposing any legislation they are working on and constantly belittle or harass anyone that doesn't tow their agenda line...
many of his compadres are in here now supporting his BS in case you haven't noticed....these are LEOs...IMO
--helping him herd the cats (us)--and push the unambiguous compliance agenda...so they can bring the tax and regulate online--jmo

i mean what good is the card/law if you do any one thing wrong (1plant over) you have no protections...???....
any REAL growers knows if you try and grow the way they designed the law it is almost impossible to stay compliant...
almost everyone that has a garden I would bet is in violation.....how the fuk do you grow 12 plants and make $ doing that?????

.the law was designed for them to make $$off both sids of the fence....
and keep imposing more and more restrictions until it goes back underground and only the corp will be able to service sick pts

and there are threads by administrators there (3ma) talkin about 250lb "legal" warehouse grows forthe dispensaries..
but...they never addresses that there--seem funy??

---seem weird (?) they would argue with folks thereand here over 12plant compliance but not address an administrator that does warehouse grows for dispensaries...???

imo were all being pulled around by our dicks on roller skates by the lawyers dictating the law here....and bobs trying to look like one or keep hisrep withthe ones hes involved with--

--->where are the pt groups?
CCs ...? that do nothing but meet secretly in libraries and do nothing to support folks that got caught up...?

our law and all its fuked up shit is by design and bob is just helping the lawyers he works with --in his stakeholders group

i hate scum sucking lawyers that take money for defending people from corrupt laws....that they are part of

jst wait till you guys see what is coming by the end of the year!
you won't even think its the same law.......

in fact IMO this whole thread was to smoke you guy$ out that are trying to make a living....

i am a carpenter for 25yrs and glad I make my living that way....
but the hair on my neck stands up whenever I'm around LEO or reading threads by a certain dr---
i can't even go read on 3ma site anymore the whole site is dedicated to herding cats and asleep stoner noobies

should I pull the thread where bob states he's the state recognized authority now on bona fide language.....??

please don't make me do tha I got enuf on my plate-- wake up !! :leaf:

i got funerals to go to---3of my relatives died over the weekend.....and dad is close!
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"..dr bob works with the state.....he helped change the laws---when will some of you understand this??

--->i could pull a hundred of his threads from different forums that could make you realize this...."

I would love to see this. I do not go on to any other sites, so I have been basing my opinions on what I see here only. I am open to changing my opinion and/or admiting I was wrong. Thus far all I have seen have been empty accusations.

"i got funerals to go to---3of my relatives died over the weekend.....and dad is close!"

Sorry to hear that. I just lost a family member recently myself. I hope you're doing OK.
 
Figong

Figong

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All I have to say on this one.. is that threats over a digital medium since 9/11 are more than punishable.. especially if it's threat of bodily harm, coming from a doctor. I'm not taking sides.. just sharing a bit of information for insight.
 
buckaroo bonzai

buckaroo bonzai

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st0wandgrow said:


"..dr bob works with the state.....he helped change the laws---when will some of you understand this??

--->i could pull a hundred of his threads from different forums that could make you realize this...."

I would love to see this. I do not go on to any other sites, so I have been basing my opinions on what I see here only. I am open to changing my opinion and/or admiting I was wrong. Thus far all I have seen have been empty accusations.

"i got funerals to go to---3of my relatives died over the weekend.....and dad is close!"

Sorry to hear that. I just lost a family member recently myself. I hope you're doing OK.
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well you kno what...? that sucks but will take a lot of reading and some work......

there is plenty out there--

so I am now going to --->ask some help here forthe first time.....

there plenty of you motherfuckers out there that know a lot of this shit.....I'm asking to help me post it--please

i gotta lot going on right now......

--->how long are we as a group of pts collectively going to allow these motherfuckersto keep herding us into "their" box....??
until we have no rights anymore and it's back where a lot of us came from.....in the shadows

--->>it is illegal still in all aspects...
..and a lot of folks are making $$off that and blowing smoke up people's asses telling them if you get a card and follow the rules..."they" .....designed you will b allright--pfffffft!

in case you guys haven't noticed the card now can be a voluntary option--
and you can get a sec8defense by virtue of a Dr rec....
but who wants to find that out???

the law its all bullshit and will take some work but please post the shit you others have read....
I will find his words and help him digest them in here where we can all watch....and comment

if he wants to have me investigated by " the lawyers" he will find I live in a small condo with mom and dad and help mom change dads diapers when I can....
..I ain't skeered of dr bobs threatening tones....
I am a grown man and older than most of your guys fathers---prolly older than bob--

i get so pissed when read this fuked up shit going on all over the net!!

we need to all be concious and aware of who is up to what within our collective community-
thereslots of real sick and dying folks looking for answers besides growers--

gonna take some time but I will post some fucked up shit forthe forums eyes.:shock:..anyone else please jump in and don't be skeered...

if you think you are anonymous by posting in a marijuana forum I hate to tell you....they know all of us--

are you aware of how many Leo gets paid to stir up shit and chk folks on interweb marijuana forums...???
they get "paid" to do it--


give me some time stump and I will make it good--:eyesmoke:
 
buckaroo bonzai

buckaroo bonzai

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gladstoned said:
Sorry if my blow up offended any of you. I just got out of the shower and was getting ready to go see a real doctor. Not my fake-skype-Ineedpotdr. But my real doctor. My phone goes off and I'm literally standing naked in my bathroom reading a private message of this motherfucker threatening me. Are you really fucking kidding me? I had to type a few thoughts on my way out the door.
It's more than bloody that hates dr bob. Most just don't follow him around reminding him all day. Stow you say having a dr on the forum would be nice. IT WOULD!!! But this motherfucker is LEO/Asst Prosecutor.
I've sat back and watched and listened. He is bad news. He actually said the Hash Bash makes us look bad. roflmao. More rules and regulations by assholes that don't know anything about marijuana is the only thing that
can make us look bad. Dr Bob re certified me. I've dealt with him. I know people in offices of his that know him very well. SEVERAL people have talked shit about him on this and every forum. The dude is bad news!!!
He pushed pills for a living. The biggest enemy there is!! And he didn't quit doing it cuz he realized what all those scripts were doing to many of his patients. roflmao. No no no, that isn't why he quit.
Many of the regulars here all caught on quickly how he absolutely talks down to everyone. He isn't in this for the healing medicinal properties of cannabis whatsoever. That means he is really against us. He is for more regulation, more rules, more doctors visits. It's bullshit. Fuck the 'in it for the money'. That is a whole different animal. He is in it for the regulation. And regulation isn't free. The dude is bad news, I've been hearing it since I first heard his name, and following him for a month or two on here I now believe it. I'm not going to cyber-stalk him or no shit like that, and won't fight with him every thread. Fuck him. I've said what I need to.

So I goes into my doctors office. High as fuck. I'm in the UP, I don't have 3g, 4g, or any fucking g's at all. I'm trying to load this shit on my phone. My doctor is pretty cool, he's like what's up. I was just high enough to tell him. I said my pot doc is on a weed forum fighting with me. roflmao. He's like WHAT? I told him about riu and the different michigan forums and HE asked me wtf is the doctor doing on there. Anyone I'd know. His laugh when I told him was priceless!! Ya your fucking respected all right buddy. lol. He said that's fucking pathetic and can't believe, like us 1. That you are allowed to sit on your computer and publicly argue with your patients. and 2. THAT YOU WOULD!!
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you are the reason I read the forums!!

to get a great laff everyday and when you don't post this place is boring ...you and frickin Abe letterman

..I could not believe anyone could be offended by your hilarious interweb joking.....
and --->>finally somebody speaks the truth!

i have to comment when I see so much truth in a post!


>>incredible great post there that speaks a lot f truth!! ++rep you have stellar reputation in my book!
 
Dr. Danks

Dr. Danks

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HomeLessBeans said:
not all caregivers are growers.. there is more to this business than growin
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Ya like a middle man and that is exactly what's wrong with our system today middle men are like scavengers taking business away from us farmers that are real caregivers. Not middle men drug dealers that are in for just the money it's about the meds and that's what people forget and makes medical marijuana look bad and is slowing down what we are trying to accomplished.
 
Bigtacofarmer

Bigtacofarmer

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Middlemen have a role. Its just sick to see the markup many feel they deserve. In Cali and Colorado growers are being expected to unload for 2000 or less a lb in some cases and the patients are still paying 4000 to 5000. Thats BS! I can see why a grower would have no interest in selling grams and eights and its nice to have someone who does the run around, but it they think they should make more than the grower, or even close for that matter they are stupid! If I have inferior product for some reason I try to let is go for super cheap and time and time again people will say, no one wants any more of that stuff and when I ask what they charge they say same as the good shit. Jerks. Money driven people just don't get it. Do good business with quality products and money comes to you!
 
Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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The doc might just be the devil himself but if he has one thing that helps me help my mom or other patients then I'll take it. I am with Glad on the point of view of the good doctor, seems pretty regulatory and prosecutorial. That's not my concern though. Haters gonna hate! I learned a pretty sweet elementary trick from a grower who thought feeding plants straight table salt would be better than a water flush-illustrates that even a fucktard can be learned from you just got to filter the info you get out there in the world. I will never see eye to eye with doc bob on law issues or enforcement. I read his posts thru eyes that want legalization and want it now so I can get bent out of shape pretty easily about how things are compared to how I want them to be. If I was doc bob (that's where I always try and take it when someone blows my mind with a whack opinion) I'd probably have to say a lot of shit I didn't really believe to keep my license to practice. I think spouting off about how it should be legal and everyone should be allowed to use it would probably paint a target on your back as a certification doctor. But at the same time I like to think I'd be big enough to let haters hate and not get involved in interweb fights. I don't know that I could but I'd like to think I could. a really big issue that came to light with my mom and her primary is that doc bob and the other cert docs are absolutely necessary because for whatever reason even doctors that believe it is medicine have a fear (real or perceived) that there will be retribution for signing certs. Her doctor said sure fine sounds great try pot....but I won't fill out your paperwork we don't do that at this office. WTF? now I have to find a bob for her. there is a lot wrong with the system and a lot right with it. Anyone signing papers and certifying people is doing something positive in that act. That's the props I'll give, no more no less. Side note; is there anyone on these boards that is or knows of a cannabis expert? Breeders we got lots of growers we got tons of experts in the medicine I have trouble finding. I always post "oh bob...." right before the fight starts. He's a smart guy, maybe smarter than me even so I must assume he sees it coming too. now I ask, why????
 
Cory and trevor

Cory and trevor

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Bigtacofarmer said:
Middlemen have a role. Its just sick to see the markup many feel they deserve. In Cali and Colorado growers are being expected to unload for 2000 or less a lb in some cases and the patients are still paying 4000 to 5000. Thats BS! I can see why a grower would have no interest in selling grams and eights and its nice to have someone who does the run around, but it they think they should make more than the grower, or even close for that matter they are stupid! If I have inferior product for some reason I try to let is go for super cheap and time and time again people will say, no one wants any more of that stuff and when I ask what they charge they say same as the good shit. Jerks. Money driven people just don't get it. Do good business with quality products and money comes to you!
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Absolutely! I'm a terrible salesman. I'm pretty humble about my products and I don't like to brag so to have someone who recognizes the quality and can do the selling and marketing everything is perfect. I would like to see us take the Colorado model further in one respect should we get legalization here and that's go from their 70% (or whatever it is) produced in house to 100% or 90% even. To me that would fix the issue of mark up for middle men. Maybe not. any legalization would be good but the minute I say that some politician slaps a $100K permit to grow or have a dispensary and now I'm pissed again.
 
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