LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

hyroot

hyroot

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Your math is wrong. Its 160 with shipping. 129.99.+ 29.99

Theres another one I ordered from that I cant find. The ebay store is seabrook island
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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hyroot said:
Your math is wrong. Its 160 with shipping. 129.99.+ 29.99

Theres another one I ordered from that I cant find. The ebay store is seabrook island
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Oh, that's not as bad. haha. Thanks. Too much wine.

Edit: Found another one on the same ebay store you linked to for 119+29.99... even better... I will try to find seabrook island and see what htey got, thanks man
 
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High^Hopes

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I got my 6 bulb Hydrofarm for $150 and change shipped. It was from a place called Grow Green Michigan, wasnt as happy that my "plain brown box" option consisted of a heavy black film that had holes torn in it during shipping
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Unfortunately Hagen only makes that bulb in 12 in t5 or t8 for the 54 w

Here is the spd for hagens 660 48in t5. Power glo
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infinitalus

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AltarNation said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/60-5-ft-T5-Aquarium-Light-Coral-Reef-8-Lamps-80W-HO-Bulb-640W-Used-R58-Marine-/251037464030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a72ffb5de

Didn't know 5 ft'ers existed...

is this guy still the best deal for fixtures? anyone got better prices than this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/T5-Grow-Light-Fluorescent-8-Lamps-6500K-Bulbs-Veg-48-4-ft-Sun-Hydroponics-R48-/251037141241?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a72fac8f9

8-bulb for 149 shipped seems pretty damn good to me.

Wanted the 6-bulb but the price jump is pretty small between the 6 and 8. Don't like the look of his reflectors though. It looks like they're two-bulb reflectors like the bad boy? Can't really tell in the pics... might have to shoot him a message and find out
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You DO NOT want these. I bought one, and soon enough will only be using the fixture as a replacement if something happens. They are not nearly wide enough and the ballasts arent nearly as efficient as the fulham's. A Quantum Badboy is the best way to go (I bought a Grosite Kushmaster and am regretting it) because of all of the vented spots and easy take down. Ill be posting pics soon of the side with the grosite and then when I get my other 2 CO2 bags in Ill take pics of the side with the ebay'd fixture and 2x 4ft 2 lamp T8 fixture I have running next to it for a light booster.

Side by side experiments are fun, but detrimental to a real grow.
 
48martin

48martin

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infinitalus said:
You DO NOT want these. I bought one, and soon enough will only be using the fixture as a replacement if something happens. They are not nearly wide enough and the ballasts arent nearly as efficient as the fulham's. A Quantum Badboy is the best way to go (I bought a Grosite Kushmaster and am regretting it) because of all of the vented spots and easy take down. Ill be posting pics soon of the side with the grosite and then when I get my other 2 CO2 bags in Ill take pics of the side with the ebay'd fixture and 2x 4ft 2 lamp T8 fixture I have running next to it for a light booster.

Side by side experiments are fun, but detrimental to a real grow.
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Really good point!

I would say always look carefully at what you buy. Usually these fixtures are lower in price because of cheaper parts and/or cheaper labor. That does not mean you should disregard them but just understand what your getting. I personally will not purchase a fixture that does not have a UL listed ballast or warranty.

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Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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Altar, if those 8 bulb units for $150 on ebay were from the seller Growzebo (i didnt check the link, sry) those are what I have, every fixture I have except for my current Veg 6 bulb (hydrofarm) and 2 side panels (white, 4bulb hydrofarms), all the others are from Growzebo and Ive had no problems, they're worth the money. I use the 8 bulb for top overhead lighting since they're so compact (17" for 8bulbs) and their 4bulb panels for sidelighting. Their 6 and 8bulb panels ARE 2 bulbs per reflector, so they're not as efficient, but they're more compact so I figure they're a little more intense under the footprint so I can deal with it. Their 4bulb panels are single bulb to reflector and more efficient. I switched to a Hydrofarm for a little bit more money but a larger footprint and single bulb/reflectors in my veg box cuz thats what I wanted, but If you wanna cram a shitload of tubes into a smaller space, the Growzebo (Radiion brand) 8bulb panels are pretty decent, for $150 I'd take them over a badboy anyday (especially when Iheard you have to assemble the badboys...wtf???i dunno) check back through some of my pics.... they're all the Radiion cheapo's. oh and free shipping
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Undercover Cop said:
Altar, if those 8 bulb units for $150 on ebay were from the seller Growzebo (i didnt check the link, sry) those are what I have, every fixture I have except for my current Veg 6 bulb (hydrofarm) and 2 side panels (white, 4bulb hydrofarms), all the others are from Growzebo and Ive had no problems, they're worth the money. I use the 8 bulb for top overhead lighting since they're so compact (17" for 8bulbs) and their 4bulb panels for sidelighting. Their 6 and 8bulb panels ARE 2 bulbs per reflector, so they're not as efficient, but they're more compact so I figure they're a little more intense under the footprint so I can deal with it. Their 4bulb panels are single bulb to reflector and more efficient. I switched to a Hydrofarm for a little bit more money but a larger footprint and single bulb/reflectors in my veg box cuz thats what I wanted, but If you wanna cram a shitload of tubes into a smaller space, the Growzebo (Radiion brand) 8bulb panels are pretty decent, for $150 I'd take them over a badboy anyday (especially when Iheard you have to assemble the badboys...wtf???i dunno) check back through some of my pics.... they're all the Radiion cheapo's. oh and free shipping
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Yeah, I like the looks of them. I'm not so concerned about them being compact... I don't see that as a bad thing necessarily... like you said, more intensity per sq. inch.

Thanks for the input everyone. Going to consider my options and hopefully make a purchase before my next batch goes into flower.
 
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infinitalus

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Lucius Vorenus said:
Here are some rebranded Badboys online now selling for the same price but includes the bulbs. Same ballasts too. I figured some of you guys who are looking could use this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Skylight-T5-Fluorescent-Fixture-4-ft-8-Lamp-FREE-LAMPS-grow-light-bad-boy-/130675356073?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6cdbb1a9#ht_3099wt_1021
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Now thats a deal if it is what it claims it is. Although the 3000k bloom lamps shouldnt look white.. one problem is it doesnt list the dimensions of the product. I suppose you could email them and ask.. but I would still prefer PAR/PUR lighting. I guess those lamps could be used as a substitute if one blows.

Personally, Id rather use the badboy just because of the warranty they offer. Once I can afford a badboy, the standard and cheaper fixture will be used for side lighting. Im not really utilizing any at this point.

EDIT: I bought the samething from Growzebo. Worked with me on getting the lamps I wanted, and fast free shipping. Couldnt be happier with the transaction itself. After some consideration, Ill probably get a few more and use them for side lighting.. that way I wont have to trim the bottoms of my plants so much :)
 
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Lucius Vorenus

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infinitalus said:
Now thats a deal if it is what it claims it is. Although the 3000k bloom lamps shouldnt look white.. one problem is it doesnt list the dimensions of the product. I suppose you could email them and ask.. but I would still prefer PAR/PUR lighting. I guess those lamps could be used as a substitute if one blows.

Personally, Id rather use the badboy just because of the warranty they offer. Once I can afford a badboy, the standard and cheaper fixture will be used for side lighting. Im not really utilizing any at this point.

EDIT: I bought the samething from Growzebo. Worked with me on getting the lamps I wanted, and fast free shipping. Couldnt be happier with the transaction itself. After some consideration, Ill probably get a few more and use them for side lighting.. that way I wont have to trim the bottoms of my plants so much :)
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its a badboy. they just found the manufacturer in china that makes badboys and rebranded it. same maker of the bulbs too.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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No no no. That rebranded fake ass badboy nonono. Hydrosource is bad. They have gotten in trouble with every company. They have all pulled their products from them. The shop was a front for a shady dispensary before it got shut down. Suplosedly some of their inventory fell off a truck, winl.wink. They also have horrible reviews.

Also they do not accept returns. It says so in their policy. Ive been to their ghetto hole in the wall store in covina.
 
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