LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow
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PetFlora
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Cpt Kron/et al,
CLONES: In the past I mostly started from seeds, in either S2G or RW Starter Cubes. I would hand water until the second leaf set, then move into a DIY bubbler. I was not crazy about the results, often losing 30-50% due to too much moisture. I cut the cubes in half, which helped some. I decided to order Sunleaves Super Starter Cubes (SSSCs), but neglected to start these plants in them. The seeds came from a friend's brother, but I could not get any strain or genetic info, so I named them Brother's Keeper. The BK plant that survived my HPA fiasco, I call BK-1. Thankfully, it's a female.
BK-1 is much bigger than any strains I have grown. She is taller/wider, with tons of long side branches, so I took 4 small clones, then a week later, she was twice as tall, so I took 7 more clones. These were cut after the 3rd node.
The first 4: Three were put directly into neoprene pucks and hung over my DIY bubbler. One clone was placed in a SSSCs (looks identical to Root Riot): all 4 have rooted, and been moved into my HPA rig.
A week later, I took 7 more clones. Four were placed directly into neoprene pucks, then placed inside a PVC coupler and hung over the bubbles; the other 3 were placed in SSSCs. All clones are healthy (no wilt), I can see root knuckles on the clones hanging in air, so it's too soon to see roots popping outside the SSSCs, but again, all are healthy.
Some of these will go into HPA, others F & D and others Air Pots as a test to see which performs best. hth
CLONES: In the past I mostly started from seeds, in either S2G or RW Starter Cubes. I would hand water until the second leaf set, then move into a DIY bubbler. I was not crazy about the results, often losing 30-50% due to too much moisture. I cut the cubes in half, which helped some. I decided to order Sunleaves Super Starter Cubes (SSSCs), but neglected to start these plants in them. The seeds came from a friend's brother, but I could not get any strain or genetic info, so I named them Brother's Keeper. The BK plant that survived my HPA fiasco, I call BK-1. Thankfully, it's a female.
BK-1 is much bigger than any strains I have grown. She is taller/wider, with tons of long side branches, so I took 4 small clones, then a week later, she was twice as tall, so I took 7 more clones. These were cut after the 3rd node.
The first 4: Three were put directly into neoprene pucks and hung over my DIY bubbler. One clone was placed in a SSSCs (looks identical to Root Riot): all 4 have rooted, and been moved into my HPA rig.
A week later, I took 7 more clones. Four were placed directly into neoprene pucks, then placed inside a PVC coupler and hung over the bubbles; the other 3 were placed in SSSCs. All clones are healthy (no wilt), I can see root knuckles on the clones hanging in air, so it's too soon to see roots popping outside the SSSCs, but again, all are healthy.
Some of these will go into HPA, others F & D and others Air Pots as a test to see which performs best. hth
PetFlora
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My bulbs are here. MY BULBS ARE HERE!
It's truly amazing how different the green leafs appear.
Here' s a shot of BK-1 in early bud, prior to installing the new bulbs. so all can follow along as she fattens up. Hopefully, I can finally earn my UN on other sites- PhatNuggz
BK-1 now >50", but more importantly, loaded with side branches and bud sites. I hope the bloom bulbs slow her growth down as I can't raise the fixture any higher.
The tiny bleaching on one leaf is burn. I try to keep the bulbs within 4" of the plant, but she has been growing so fast that within a few hours she can get within burn zone.
It's truly amazing how different the green leafs appear.
Here' s a shot of BK-1 in early bud, prior to installing the new bulbs. so all can follow along as she fattens up. Hopefully, I can finally earn my UN on other sites- PhatNuggz
BK-1 now >50", but more importantly, loaded with side branches and bud sites. I hope the bloom bulbs slow her growth down as I can't raise the fixture any higher.
The tiny bleaching on one leaf is burn. I try to keep the bulbs within 4" of the plant, but she has been growing so fast that within a few hours she can get within burn zone.
cannawizard
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--these chicks like it rough
bloom bulbs make plants stretch taller lol fuckin bend that main top to one side with some supercroppin or LST n she will explode from her side branches
cannawizard
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**thats gonna be another quote under Kron's sig.. rofl
Lucius Vorenus
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How do you make this?
hyroot
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TEA????
Usually I aerate the water for a day or 2 then I add molasses ( 1 tbsp per gal ) and aerate for another hour. The molasses neutralizes the chlorine and chloramine.
Then I add guano
VEG .............................1/2 cup peruvian seabird and 1/2 mexican bat.
EARLY FLOWER...... 1/3 cup peruvian seabird and 2/3 cup jamaican bat,
LATE FLOWER .........1/3 cup peruvian seabird and 2/3 cup indonesian bat.
to all 3 - 1/2 cup ancient forest humus (used to use ewc )
dr. earth seaweed concentrate or grow more kelp meal
grow more dolomite lime
aerate for another day and half
feed full strength no diluting
A few times when I've been out of stuff and not a lot of money, I used earth juice rainbow mix grow 5-5-2 and bloom 0-9-2 and primal harvest 0-12-1 and aerate that at same ratios. Everything else is already in it. When I have used that I actually saw a lot more crystals. Something in the earth juice seems to combat PM too.
CLONES: 2 red party cups of VEG TEA =4 cups, 1 red party cup of aerated water = 2 cups. then pour into tray.
recipe for 5 gallons
Lucius Vorenus
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so you're using that rather than any Nutes? I know shit about tea. Did I read Humus?????
ill have pics up in the next few days
hyroot
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thats all I feed them
Ancient forest humus or earth worm casting which both produce humic acid and that's where most of the beneficial bacteria and fungi comes from.guano produces some good bacteria too.
its humus from decomposing forest litter. Not hummus the levantine arab dip or spread for pita bread or flatbread
ohiogrown03
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these were what i brought back indoor from about 5 or 6 weeks ago, i transplanted one, and left the other in dirt. obviously the non transpanted one is doing better. Sorry for the awkard pics, i just the other day arranged this lighting, going to try it for a week or so and see how it goes, i did just have it about 2" away from tops.
when i brought them in they were starting to flower outside and about 8 inches tall with a total of 10-15 leaves a piece, really rough condition, got no attention but survived that long anyway. when i brought them in, i cut off the top buds and transplanted one to hydro. this is what they look like after about 5 weeks. the soil one is really a beast i think, it's bushy as hell, i trimmed up a few of the bottom stuff that was starting to grow, but i think i might wait another week or two and try to get some clones off of the soil one. i'm thinking maybe another month of veg for that one, what do you think? i'm building one of the bubble cloners and thats what i plan to put cutting in.
when i brought them in they were starting to flower outside and about 8 inches tall with a total of 10-15 leaves a piece, really rough condition, got no attention but survived that long anyway. when i brought them in, i cut off the top buds and transplanted one to hydro. this is what they look like after about 5 weeks. the soil one is really a beast i think, it's bushy as hell, i trimmed up a few of the bottom stuff that was starting to grow, but i think i might wait another week or two and try to get some clones off of the soil one. i'm thinking maybe another month of veg for that one, what do you think? i'm building one of the bubble cloners and thats what i plan to put cutting in.
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pr0fesseur
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well again 60/40 r/g for bloom
vice versa for grow
these are just for base...remember fiji's have some of the actinic in them.. you could do just fiji and red sun... maybe a single full spectrum for completeness,.