LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow
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Lucius Vorenus
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You use 2 gallon through the whole thing??
pr0fesseur
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Indeed! I actually do.. Just dont pack the dirt down tight... The root ball will completely engulf the air pot using every inch of space and will air prune... if you need more room for growth, simply place in a larger bucket unwrap the pot and backfill with more dirt.... very little shock as the roots are already exposed to the environment.
Lucius Vorenus
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Really? Wow. Have you done that?
I need airpots, whats the best place to buy 3 gallon versions and have any of you used them with Coco or Rockwool grows yet?
pr0fesseur
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http://www.airpotgarden.com/
nuff said i only order from here. super fast shipping no hassle and great customer service... remember honey attracts more bees than vinegar
if you come off as an ass they will treat you accordingly... know what you want before you order you MUST order a minimum here...i use 2 galsand the mini starter pots they are a great fit for smaller grow and grew all my plants to 3' tall....
since airpots dont allow water to stay in the pot and drain away really fast i suggest NOT using rockwool or coco cubes.(coco yes)..the water retention will be an issue.. these are designed for soil/soiless mediums...with "some" water retention qualities.
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[video=youtube;nceTm3r1mZc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nceTm3r1mZc[/video]
nuff said i only order from here. super fast shipping no hassle and great customer service... remember honey attracts more bees than vinegar
if you come off as an ass they will treat you accordingly... know what you want before you order you MUST order a minimum here...i use 2 galsand the mini starter pots they are a great fit for smaller grow and grew all my plants to 3' tall....since airpots dont allow water to stay in the pot and drain away really fast i suggest NOT using rockwool or coco cubes.(coco yes)..the water retention will be an issue.. these are designed for soil/soiless mediums...with "some" water retention qualities.
[video=youtube;-NUjNBKex0I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NUjNBKex0I&feature=related[/video]
[video=youtube;nceTm3r1mZc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nceTm3r1mZc[/video]
grapeoptimo
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what posts in this thread can i find pics of plants flowering 7 weeks + under the T5 setup you have suggested?
PetFlora
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You beat me to it. I was going to say...
wait for it...
RTDT
APs: I started in the 4", then moved the plant to a 1.5G. Lay the plant on its side, remove the green thumb screw and the outer wall opens up. Root ball is in tact (you will see that the roots look like the video), gently place it inside the larger AP, and back fill. I think it is a good idea to use something in the base so the mix doesn't fall through. I had some S2G pads lying around that I cut, but I think a couple layers of unbleached napkins/paper towels will do the trick. Follow directions! The APs have a top and bottom. The top does not have holes in the first row to help prevent spillage.
Aquarium Specialties must be having a problem as I still do not have my Actinics. Corals have been in stock, but I have been waiting for Actinics and Red Life replacement for 3 weeks to save on shipping. Spoke with Kelly who says her last 2 shipments indicated that the Actinics were shipped, but were not in the shipment. She said she will have mfg send direct along with my replacement Red Life. Tic Toc.
In the mean time, I have been using the one Red Life, one Quantum Bloom, four Quantum Grow and 2 Aqua Suns. I think it's too much blue. Since I flipped to 12/12 two weeks ago, the plants have been slow to show sex. I didn't want to use the 2900 Quantum Blooms, thinking I would have the others by now, but will switch the remaining 5 Grows out for Quantum Blooms at "lights on" this morning.
My biggest plant continues to amaze me. Every day it grows 2-4" (now ~ 35") and all side branches are 10"+ long. Can't wait to show off the bud shots, but really need the missing bulbs to do it justice. I may have to order elsewhere.
pr0fesseur
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I used the free panty hose socks you get @ the shoe store and wrapped that around the base!!! i have pics here somewhere
pr0fesseur
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Ya I can only vouch for my experience... but they are a great vendor and have been under high volume lately.. I do seriously think i have single handedly caused their sales to skyrocket!..
there is reefdepot and others that have the bulbs in question be patient it will happen..
On a second note i cant wait to see pics.. the blue bulbs will assist with growth and yes they will be reluctant to show flowers until you throw red light on them.. but it does happen SLOWLY..without red suns(life) what the fuk ever they call em now..
So happy that im not the only one seeing dramatic and visible differences using these bulbs. these knuckleheads think that HID is the ONLY way to grow AMAZING plants.. the proof is in the Pudding (bill cosby style)[video=youtube;taQqVHw4PYU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taQqVHw4PYU&feature=related[/video]
^NoR*CaL@420
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pr0fesseur, would i still use those bulbs you recomend if i will use the T5 for vugging, and my HPS for flower? or would i want to replace the red with another blue or purple?
its a 4 foot 4 tube. thanks Pr0fesseur!
its a 4 foot 4 tube. thanks Pr0fesseur!
pr0fesseur
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UVL 75.25
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pr0fesseur
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yup go back and read the thread...last 8 pages or so should have pics... seek and ye shall find
Triplezero1
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Great work pr0fesseur!!! Just got done reading all of the thread & I have a couple questions.
1) What king of dry yields per m2 are you getting out of these lights?
2) How much heat are they throwing off?
3) what do you think about mixing them with high quality L.E.D. fixtures?
1) What king of dry yields per m2 are you getting out of these lights?
2) How much heat are they throwing off?
3) what do you think about mixing them with high quality L.E.D. fixtures?
pr0fesseur
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1.) If you read my thread i stated frequently my experiment was not about yield. and is impossible to quantify yield when measuring just the lights capability to grow.. too many variables to make an accurate statement. yield is different per strain and per grower.
2.) Heat was never an issue with my setup dramatically less than my 400HID threw off. 4-5-10 degrees less on average. depending on full light daytime nighttime and height of the lamp... the closer to the exaust the less heat reached my control unit... i used a control unit to adjust heat/cool/light/humidity. set it forget it.
3.) Why? your wasting money on led using this method these bulbs BLOW LED AWAY!
Lucius Vorenus
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Any of you have any comparison of these vs Airpots?
http://shop.geoplanter.com/GeoPot-Self-supporting-Geo-Pots_c2.htm
http://shop.geoplanter.com/GeoPot-Self-supporting-Geo-Pots_c2.htm
pr0fesseur
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