LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

PetFlora

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the sun -The Sun -THE SUN. Come on people. The Suns is a constant. It's the RELATIONSHIP between Mother Earth, the sun (and the moon) that guides farmers.

Why do you think farmers plant in early Spring and harvest in the Fall? Yes, the weather plays a big part, but so does the Sun's varying spectral intensity due to earths' elliptical path around it. Since we grow indoors, weather is less of a factor and can be controlled. What does that leave? LIGHT, or more specifically, the ability to simulate natures' Spring-Fall spectral cycle.

Fixed spectrum lights (even with excellent PAR) fail to provide the varying PAR intensity required at the 2-3 different stages of a plant's cycle. That goes for Plasmas too!

I have grown with 400watt MH/HPS, LED, CFLs. The only lights that can simulate the Spring-Fall spectral cycle at a reasonable cost is T5s/ Coral bulbs.

Since flipping to 12/12 just 5 days ago (and with one barely performing Red Sun) and no Actinic to speak of (though the Quantum Grow has a short peak) the inter-nodal growth is exploding. Bud site branches are already 2"+ long at the top nodes, and 4-6" near the bottom, all with stout stems. I have never experienced anything like this. Viva la HO T 5 + Coral Bulbs! hth
 

hyroot

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has any one had problems with their badboy.? lately if mine gets bumped 2 bulbs stop working then i twist them in the other direction and they work again.
 
hey prof, i was wondering what the monthly extra cost on your electricity bill is because my 600watts on 12/12 is £20epm and 125cfl on 22/2 is about £5/10epm so to run these for the full cycle must cost a little extra?
regards
sorry for the monetary question
 

Tyler123

Member
The only bulbs I can get locally are made by HAGEN. They are 30.00 each. Does anyone know if these are good quality? I am looking at their actinic.
 

UnderCurrentDWC

Active Member
has any one had problems with their badboy.? lately if mine gets bumped 2 bulbs stop working then i twist them in the other direction and they work again.
I have the 16 bulb, every 4 bulbs is controlled by an individual ballast with an on off switch, 1 out of 4 can not turn off, It's been that way since I received the fixture. I use a lighting controller so I can bypass this problem, but yeah.... I'm having issues with mine too.

Here's some pics of a plant under the light.
Day 1


Day 8
 

hyroot

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Mine is an 8 bulb and its the 2 bulbs at one end. It seemed kind of flimsy as I put it together too. I might get one of those HTG ones for the next 8 bulb..They are even the same price after shipping. They run on 120 or 240 and have similar reflectors too.

. finally got a camera that actually works

Day 2 of flower under the t5.

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pr0fesseur

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Mine is an 8 bulb and its the 2 bulbs at one end. It seemed kind of flimsy as I put it together too. I might get one of those HTG ones for the next 8 bulb..They are even the same price after shipping. They run on 120 or 240 and have similar reflectors too.

. finally got a camera that actually works

Day 2 of flower under the t5.

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As far as electrical issues, Mine flickerd when i moved them.. i opened up the top and checked every connection.. they were hastily put together and have since behaved...
The ballasts are what i am after...
http://www.goodmart.com/products/fulham-race-horse-23-t5ho-fluorescent-electronic-ballast-120-277v-rh23-unv-254lt5.htm?source=gsGM
 

PROF XAVIER

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Mine is an 8 bulb and its the 2 bulbs at one end. It seemed kind of flimsy as I put it together too. I might get one of those HTG ones for the next 8 bulb..They are even the same price after shipping. They run on 120 or 240 and have similar reflectors too.

. finally got a camera that actually works

Day 2 of flower under the t5.

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You can reinforce the light fixture using simple components. Also, with a few pieces of Plexiglas and duct connectors, you can run a cool tube type fixture where the light can touch the plant for days without burning....delivering more light distribution than a 1000 Watt HPS. Just simple engineering and a trip to Lowes.
 

PROF XAVIER

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they have been discontinued
By the way, pretty plants and good color spectrum...be curious to see what they would do with more full spectrum linens maybe as a supplement? Cannabis is high light level plant. Best strains from Mexico and Afghanistan where sunlight is very intense. Just my two cents but VERY nice plants.
 

PROF XAVIER

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By the way, pretty plants and good color spectrum...be curious to see what they would do with more full spectrum linens maybe as a supplement? Cannabis is high light level plant. Best strains from Mexico and Afghanistan where sunlight is very intense. Just my two cents but VERY nice plants.
God damn spell check....lumens not linens!
 

PROF XAVIER

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I have the 16 bulb, every 4 bulbs is controlled by an individual ballast with an on off switch, 1 out of 4 can not turn off, It's been that way since I received the fixture. I use a lighting controller so I can bypass this problem, but yeah.... I'm having issues with mine too.

Here's some pics of a plant under the light.
Day 1


Day 8
Each ballast in the Barboy controls a certain number of bulbs. If you are having problems with the bulbs, check to see if the wires are tightly tangled. Also, the end connectors have to be alligned in a certain way. Also, the pins on the bulbs cannot have any oxidation, as will affect the bulb firing. Use fine grit sandpaper or a sharp xacto knife and gently scrape/ sand pins until nice silver finish removing all brown rust looking surface. Bending the fixture in one position too much will result in end connectors out of line and failure in bulb. Just use some kind of top reinforcement whether using steel or wood dowels or long bars, or apply 90 degree angle iron supports drilled through the corner of the fixtures. This fixture is flimsy....but with proper reinforcement, and correct bulbs...can be highly efficient light system!
 

pr0fesseur

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Great garden... the light is kind of entrancing.. you look a the healthy plants and wonder why you didnt do this sooner!... looking great! glad to see your ladies are doing well.
 

hyroot

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you notice when you leave your garden how everything looks like a hazy shade of green as if you just took a shot of weed tincture vodka. Everything goes green lol
 

MurshDawg

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Sorry they are discontinued... I have since found replacements :)
SWEET! Did you post the link earlier on? I was doing research on the effects of infrared light upon plant life and I think I stumbled upon the reason why HID heads think that HIDs are the end all be all. Is it possible that infrared energy, emitted from a lamp, is what causes plants to stretch. That seems to be the only variable that separates our lighting style from the HID heads.
 
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