Lucius Vorenus
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yea I saw yours I was trying to see if anyone else has had such good results.
LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow
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MurshDawg
Active Member
Aquarium Specialties are still waiting on their Red Suns just to keep people informed.
Aquarium Specialty told me that the distributor has about 400 back orders for Red Suns "all of a sudden". Hmmm....wonder why that might be, LOL. Anyway, they are expecting to get them in this week (week of 9/19) so we may be seeing them sooner rather than later. I already added the Wave Point Coral Wave to my order, so that should come with the Red Suns.
AltarNation
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lolol. I did the exact same thing.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
oh too funny. I received my fixture from Aq Spclty but no bulbs. It looks like i'm part of the problem ... I'm laughing!
cheers 'neer
cheers 'neer
pr0fesseur
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I vegged for a month and a week got a 2' plant outa that.. then bloomed got to about 3.5'.. it grows fast(er) than traditional T5.
others that have used my bulbs has noticed plants "leaning towards" the actinics..
pr0fesseur
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There are plenty of places to get these bulbs gents
look around reef geek has em marine depot...bulk reef supply...aqua cave!!... theres tons of sources.. most of them have a majority of the bulbs your looking for!Congrats on everyone who is going this route shows that there are people out there that believe in "reason" and "logic" rather than some guy telling you hid is the only way to go...
On a side note guess who found compact fluorescent? in reef bulb!!!! shhh looking for a place that will send me a sample....
Lucius Vorenus
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If using a 12 bulb Bad Boy how many Actinics would I use and would I leave them in during flower as well?
Pr0fesseur- could you put a list of how things should be in a 12 bulb?
Pr0fesseur- could you put a list of how things should be in a 12 bulb?
AltarNation
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Very interested in CFL additions, since my bad boy knockoff has a gap down the middle where the ballasts are... thinking I could hang a few CFLs from the middle point and get some center-hung side-lighting in!!
silasraven
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heres my thing about hat what does it cost to run per day i saw an LED online yesterday it said 2 cents a day to run for full 10-14 hour grow days. but theres also another i found where you can get
LED grow light, panel, bulbs, 225 LED, 14W, plant growth
for 30 dollars and some change.. people say lights blow out easy on something like this. but i still think you could solder your own lights when they burn out. still iffy on the LED for 30 they arnt cheap and this seems as a rip off. but hey im in need of light with a 300 dollar budget and a fixed income 600 so i cant afford giant electric bills. im shooten the shit any adivce and corrections? much appreciated
UnderCurrentDWC
Active Member
The only way to grow for 2 cents a day is outdoors!
A 14 watt 225 LED fixture is so under powered you'll end up throwing it away. With LED's you need at least a 1 watt bulb for decent plant canopy penetration, if you had 225 1 watt bulbs that would make a decent fixture but your gonna pay hundreds and hundreds of dollars for one of those.
silasraven
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i need something very cost effienct for a light. i found and HPS for 125. but it will jack my bill right up. only thing i no is CFL's but im not even sure about if they can even be run for a decent not to steep digit to my bill. i dont have a job so this makes the variables hard to come up with for a good solution.
It's pretty simple math. For a 65 watt (actual) CFL, that is 65 watts an hour. Power is charged by the kilowatt/hour, 1000 watts/hour, and it depends what you are charged for that KWH. Say it is 15 cents. if you had 7 65 watt (actual) CFLs, then 7*65=455 watts. Let's round up to 500 to make the numbers work easy. So for 500 watts you would pay 7.5 cents per hour. 12 hours a day = 90 cents a day. 30 days = $27 a month.
silasraven
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ah ha thank you. that is exactly what i needed, ill copy this and see how to work it up or down for the future. but for 65W CFL's thats right around where i need to be. winters coming soon. thanks so much
Lucius Vorenus
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Wouldnt a 12 bulb Badboy and a 600wt HPS light use about the same amount of electricity? The only advantage to the T5 would be the lower heat. RIGHT?
pr0fesseur
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12 bulbs you would probably want 3x4 bulb combinations or 4x3 bulb combinations...
something like this
for veg
fiji
actinic plus
454 or 75.25
F
A
4
F
A
4
F
A
4
or
F
A+
75
454
*repeat
pr0fesseur
Well-Known Member
YES same amount of electricity
YES Lower heat
NO not the only advantage.
MORE PAR=MORE USABLE LIGHT the plant receives more light that it can use to drive growth. its like octane in fuel sure a gallon is a gallon.. BUT 89 octane and kerosene have very different burn patterns! 89 octane will run a car just fine but kerosene is what you NEED for aircraft....... get it?
pr0fesseur
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T5 gives you the best coverage and heres why.. the light from a single point disperses so that a plant 2' from the light recieves 1/4 of the light that a plant 1' from lthe light does.... thus the inverse square law. now the law still applies to T5 BUT ALL the light comes from MORE Surface AREA! thus is more efficient.
