LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

AltarNation

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He seemed abit shady to me, only a few posts here and they seemed like he was just after $
Same here. I might have scared him off with my cautious attitude. I was really throwing him through the ropes to make sure it was cool. I DID talk to Jeff at UVL and he confirmed that he had indeed supplied some of these bulbs to a fellow named Chris D, which correlates. So I don't think it was actually a shady situation, but I really wish he would have been a seasoned user so it was easy to trust him up front. And then he disappeared when he said he was supposed to contact me Monday so I don't know what to think. Fuck it though, I've got an email into Jeff to see if he has more of them.

Fed my ladies today for the first time since that big flush... took a full 5 days to dry out enough to rewater... and they grew SOOOO much in those 5 days... can't wait to see how they react to their first re-feeding.

And my "babies" are ready for transplant to their new airpots... just barely showing signs of N deficiency. Growth slowed way down over the last few days, so I knew something was up... I thought maybe they were just exceeding their container's size, but I thought the air pots were supposed to be so great because they could grow bigger and just air prune... I didn't even see roots coming out the sides yet, but I SUSPECT that has something to do with how hard it is to water the soil at the sides of the damn air pots in the first place. I'm NOT that happy with air pots overall. We'll see how they handle the new ones... this might be my last round with them though, because smart pots have not done me wrong and these are a pain in my ass: I took them into the bathroom to water in the shower today, just to make sure every square inch got hit with water before I tried to transplant. Water pouring out all over of course, but that's the only way to get water to the soil at the sides! I dunno, not my favorite design.

Just rambling about these here because i haven't started a log for these ones yet, heh. Anyway, I'm transplanting them to the bigger 3 gallon air pots later today, then they will go for the next 2'ish weeks to grow out roots in there... then they go into flowering, if the timing works out the way I'm predicting. This should work out nicely as it will mean that the FFOF will still be supplying nutes for roughly the first 4 weeks of flowering. Hoping I can hold off on nutes all together until then, but I might give them some very light doses of flower nutes to encourage bud development.

Time to go for a little run and enjoy some of this nice weather we've been getting... quick Q guys... should I wait a day or two before transplant or is it cool to transplant in a few hours? (seeing as I just gave them a thorough watering, that is why I ask)
 

polyarcturus

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hey UC been doing a lot of talking with the reef guys seems they have been running t5ho at 85w and 95w for a long time now. the studies show up to a 20% increase in par light. another thing is you guys need more lumens in flower yeah it cost more watts but it still keeps 80% efficiency.now the real downside to overdrivining bulbs (all fluoro are capable of being overdriven buy up to 2x wattage) is the start up voltage kills the bulbs as long as you keep the heat under control from the overdriven bulbs they should last near as long as normal lights.

also another note you could use programmed t5 ballast, well you could use a lot of different ballasts.
 

falcon223

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Well it was a busy day at work today ,and busy for the mail man. I got my replacement bulbs from UVL today for the 3 red suns that went bad. And got my seeds to. I have been waiting on the bulbs for about 2 months.

Lots to do now.
 

AltarNation

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Lucius I can't believe I almost missed that update, those look freaking LUSCIOUS... haha.. that was sort of a play on words, Lucius, Luscious... anyway. Great work. Do you have a grow log thread going?
 

AltarNation

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hey UC been doing a lot of talking with the reef guys seems they have been running t5ho at 85w and 95w for a long time now. the studies show up to a 20% increase in par light. another thing is you guys need more lumens in flower yeah it cost more watts but it still keeps 80% efficiency.now the real downside to overdrivining bulbs (all fluoro are capable of being overdriven buy up to 2x wattage) is the start up voltage kills the bulbs as long as you keep the heat under control from the overdriven bulbs they should last near as long as normal lights.

also another note you could use programmed t5 ballast, well you could use a lot of different ballasts.
Certainly some very interesting info there man... I am intrigued about the overdrive success these reef guys are having... not quite intrigued enough to mess with my lights yet but I wouldn't be adverse to trying out some new arrangement with a new fixture if someone else does the leg work and research. :0] Definitely keep us informed on what you are learning!
 

Lucius Vorenus

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Lucius I can't believe I almost missed that update, those look freaking LUSCIOUS... haha.. that was sort of a play on words, Lucius, Luscious... anyway. Great work. Do you have a grow log thread going?

Thanks man. Yea I started a grow with details earlier today. I don't think I'm gonna post much more on this thread because it's too hard to follow.
 

AltarNation

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Thanks man. Yea I started a grow with details earlier today. I don't think I'm gonna post much more on this thread because it's too hard to follow.
I hear that, LOL. It's so hard to find my own updates in this thread, that's why I started anew myself. Link us to your thread bro!
 

AltarNation

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Hay Altar, I think I might start some Kolossus this week end. I thank you for hooking me up with Sannes.
No prob bob... I am just waiting for my flowering to finish out, so you're gonna get a head start it looks like. Though I may jump the gun and sprout them a week earlier than i was planning (maybe next weekend) because I tend to forget that the first week doesn't need much light anyway. I'm sure I could fit them in with my vegging plants for a week.
 

polyarcturus

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its all bad guy think i killed both my ballasts on my fixture, just hit up a guy on CL supposed to pick up a 6 bulb fixture tommorow for 90, on the plus side he has all the bulbs i need so i wont have to order bulbs. but im so pissed at myself right now. it should have worked! i dont know where i fucked up worker for a second then shorted out, not expected. so i had to throw all my t12 i keep for backups in there. im just pissed at myself for wasting 50$. overdrive experiments are on hold currently. next time im buying a ballast i can fuck up and not the one in my fixture. i dont know how but the ballast i fucked up fucked the other ballast too even though they weren't connected or anything. bout to pop them open here in a minute and see if i cant see what went wrong. super pissed shouldve listened but oh well got a new fixture coming post pics of the new fixture tomm. god damn im pissed right now.
 

kpmarine

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its all bad guy think i killed both my ballasts on my fixture, just hit up a guy on CL supposed to pick up a 6 bulb fixture tommorow for 90, on the plus side he has all the bulbs i need so i wont have to order bulbs. but im so pissed at myself right now. it should have worked! i dont know where i fucked up worker for a second then shorted out, not expected. so i had to throw all my t12 i keep for backups in there. im just pissed at myself for wasting 50$. overdrive experiments are on hold currently. next time im buying a ballast i can fuck up and not the one in my fixture. i dont know how but the ballast i fucked up fucked the other ballast too even though they weren't connected or anything. bout to pop them open here in a minute and see if i cant see what went wrong. super pissed shouldve listened but oh well got a new fixture coming post pics of the new fixture tomm. god damn im pissed right now.
Sure you didn't cook your plug? Some of those wall sockets aren't rated for much.
 

polyarcturus

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i just feel stupid because it should have worked. i think it was because there was a slight difference in design between the 2 ballasts. im gonna retry here soon with some different ballasts.
 

polyarcturus

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well now i get to ask whats my best 6 bulb set up here are my bulbs choices that are coming with the light along with a couple i already have.

x2 10000k aquasun uvl, x2 10000k coralife, x2 420nm truelumen, x2 460 truelumen, x1 coralife atinic, 3000k philips
 
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