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I meant to ask about that (C02) I run a fan with carbon filter because at the moment until my new space smell is an issue . The fan would suck it right out .. And how often are you supposed to use it and for how long ?

Yeah that's the problem with the poor mans Ac. Co2 would be useless with the fan going. You could pop in an Ac and just use your charcoal filter to recirculate which would work well with the smell. Another thing I have got mixed reviews on is the temps. I have heard that co2 is absorbed around 85 degrees so staying close to that number or 85-90 is ideal. That helps a lot with keeping temps in check.

That's the monitor I got, it's pretty sweet to monitor as well as controll. I checked up on levels with one of those co2 bag things. Xhale from Amazon and it didn't do shit to help the levels by itself so I picked up a tank and regulator.

My only problem was the humidity sky rocketed when I stopped recirculating air. So I had to dehumidify which then drove the heat up too. My small room with a large Ac it still ran tons.

AT600 is up and running in the 4x4 , it's a temporary home for next week and a half until I move into my 800sq ft room .
There isn't one dark spot in the tint at all . It's lit the fuck up lol

If you guys go back to earlier posts with my kind xl 1000 there were dark spots and shadows . Not anymore lol

Billygreen said:

AT600 is up and running in the 4x4 , it's a temporary home for next week and a half until I move into my 800sq ft room . maybe
There isn't one dark spot in the tint at all . It's lit the fuck up lol

If you guys go back to earlier posts with my kind xl 1000 there were dark spots and shadows . Not anymore lol

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lol told ya so ... so glad your over The Kind, enjoy your new light!

maybe start A new thread documenting your apache grow ?

The reasons people choose these lights including myself and billy is the advertising. Apache might be the best but why the hell are they impossible to find. Unless you type in Apache you won't find them. That's just dumb! One of the best production lights and hardest to find, what a waste

Well big that's one of the advantages of a forum like this,you get to learn from other people's mistakes.I made those mistakes long ago and tried to convey that to you...problem is, I let my passion cloud my judgement and could have went about it better.As far as apache it seems they made a decision not to advertise,why I'm not sure but I imagine it's because they spend a lot of time building lights for commercial or research facilities and they must have a comfortable clientele in that specific arena.

It's like Christmas lol , I love this fucking thing seriously guys. I feel like an ass for talking up Kind when I really didn't know the difference at that point . The kinds will be used in my new room but as the supporting cast . The Apache is the star for sure .
I'm definitely ordering some more in the next couple of months .

I will be documenting the progress under this light . I'm beyond impressed with it .

You guys know how it is when you're a young boy and you whack off the first time ? You think " wow this is awesome "
Until you experience some real p@ssy and then the whole world seems brighter lol
Well in this case Kind is your hand and At600 is that sweet thang we all know and love

Like I said as things progress I'll be posting pics of the ladies , they are Praying to the Apache God as we speak

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Well big that's one of the advantages of a forum like this,you get to learn from other people's mistakes.I made those mistakes long ago and tried to convey that to you...problem is, I let my passion cloud my judgement and could have went about it better.As far as apache it seems they made a decision not to advertise,why I'm not sure but I imagine it's because they spend a lot of time building lights for commercial or research facilities and they must have a comfortable clientele in that specific arena.

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That's kind of what they told me , their customers really aren't the small grower ,
They provide to Universities , NASA , and large medical grow ops .
We all know the product is fantastic but I can't stress how good they are at making their customers happy .
I'm a new grower in the sticks of Vermont and they treated me like I was an important customer and that speaks volumes to me .

And Resinhound I do eat my words with all the shit I talked , I was full of shit and a bit irritated that you obviously know a lot more than me about this shit but I thank you for being an asshole long enough to motivate me to learn some more and get a real fucking light for my plants lol
Thank you seriously

with that said " LED USERs UNITE " lol

It seems like a great light! I just could never justify $2400 for one light that size. Greengenes did a side by side with apache and cxb3070's and they weren't much different.

Airwalker16 said:

It seems like a great light! I just could never justify $2400 for one light that size. Greengenes did a side by side with apache and cxb3070's and they weren't much different.

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I watched his videos , guy seems like he knows his business for sure ,as I get into this more I'll explore and learn some more but for now I'm in love with the Apache

And yeah that's a lot of money but how hard is it really going to be to make my investment back

I'm going to be running 4 Kindxl 1000s, the AT600 and a 600 watt MH in my new space
With lights and supplies I have about 12-13k in already . Don't need anything else as far as I know except for maybe I'll start running co2 in new space
Maybe I'm being overly optimistic but after I start this next round and complete it I should have made my investment back at least
Fingers crossed here anyway

How many 3070's

It should come back quick. Depends on how much u smoke too lol. Fucked up as it sounds I won't smoke and haven't done so in probably 10 years. Back in high school a few times. I'm in this for the challenge and excitement

Airwalker16 said:

It seems like a great light! I just could never justify $2400 for one light that size. Greengenes did a side by side with apache and cxb3070's and they weren't much different.

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True,but he was also quoted as saying the r2 spectrum produced by the apache is the best he's ever used.And this was after his sojourn into the cob arena.Ofc one has to consider yield but there are other considerations as well like terpene and thc content.

I do like to smoke but in moderation of course . And my money is more Important than getting high lol
And it's a great hobby and stress reliever .
I've learned more in past two months than I have in last 15 years about anything and I haven't even scratched the surface .
Economy sucks where I'm at and I haven't been able to find another sales job since I was out with an injury for a couple years . I'm better now for the most part with some residual effects that smoking helps with .
Around here people are charging 100$ a 1/4 or 20$ a gram for some mediocre at best pot and people pay it because they don't know any better . I'm personally tired of making some untalented Grower rich on my dime .

So I took the initiative to learn to grow my own and hopefully with tips from you experienced guys on here I can succeed .
My goal is to provide a superior product and a competitive price point and drive these other assholes out of business . That's the plan Anyway

I'm here to tell you,these apache will grow some straight up fire My friend.

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I'm here to tell you,these apache will grow some straight up fire My friend.

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im gonna use it to finish off this first small round so I'll have some results soon enough
It's been a week and a couple days since I flipped these to 12/12 .. Starting to see some subtle changes .. NO BALLs anywhere I can see so that's a plus.

Eager as hell to see the finished product

Plants responded to first night of AT600 with a growth spurt of almost inch and half , no joke . Take that for what's it's worth .
Best 2500$ I've ever spent .

Billygreen said:

Plants responded to first night of AT600 with a growth spurt of almost inch and half , no joke . Take that for what's it's worth .
Best 2500$ I've ever spent .

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That's news I'm happy to hear. When I hung my kinds the plants didn't move for a week. Damn sensitive autos

Big smo said:

That's news I'm happy to hear. When I hung my kinds the plants didn't move for a week. Damn sensitive autos

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When I was vegging with the Kind XL 1000 I tweaked the spectrum heavy on blues and the plants exploded in new growth and that's no exaggeration at all . They would literally reach for The light every night , but when using full spectrum with Kind the plants didn't respond as well as with only blues .
I don't know the science behind it really but when I flipped on the At600 over the plants last night they perked up and started praying again and grew an inch and a half at least in 12 hours under it . Don't know if that was a fluke or what but no complaints here