LED Companies w/ LINKS

stardustsailor

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A brother wants it to be " flash bang, concussion grenade and shotgun proof " ....

This baby is for ya ,Fran dear ...:hump::hump::hump:

:hug::hug:
As you want it to be ....

http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/public/en/crouse-hinds/products/lighting/led_luminaires/hazard_gard_evll_series_explosionproof_led_luminaires.html


And I think you're familiar with the arrays used also ...
Not another " Original Brigedelelouxx chips from USA " ....
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http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/dam/public/crousehinds/industrial-products/catalog-pdfs/lighting/hazardgard-evll-led-luminaires.pdf


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It worths it to take a look to some of real ' pro / industrial ' led illumination fixtures ...

http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/public/en/crouse-hinds/products/lighting/led_luminaires.html


Some of those ....

http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/dam/public/crousehinds/industrial-products/catalog-pdfs/lighting/champ-vmv-led-luminaires.pdf


They utilise some really "alien " (to us all ) leds ....
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weird led123.JPG


Cheers
:peace::weed:
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
From another RIU LED thread ,I got to know about this :

http://mastergardenersinc.com/index.html

According to those people there .....
These are their #1 choice .....

#1. New-Age 900W - Made in North America - wins the competition this year due to the size coming in 30”x 15” x 6”. The New-Age Mega Watt LED Grow light manufacturer only specializes in 1200W, 900W and 600W which is why they got it down to the science. These LEDs Gives you more coverage than any other 900W LED on the market and like #2. L9 by NASAgrow only top grade components and diodes are used. This light can be adjusted during the different periods simply by clicking the buttons. Gives you the most dense, hard and crystallized final product we have seen to date. No problems reported and Designed in North America. Top quality workmanship and engineered by top engineers in their field. This is a no brainer, absolutely the best on the market right now for 2013. New-Age 1200W, 900W and 600W also up to 2 year warranty.
Priced at $2449 for 1200W Mega LED, $1999 for 900W and $1449 and for 600W.
Grade A+

We advise getting the New-Age Mega LEDs from the wholesale supplier we did atmvphydroponics.com otherwise you could pay the full $2000- $2500 for the high quality 900W or 1200W. You will also receive warranty. Don't be afraid to make them an offer through email, they cut us a 40% discount off the regular price on 4 of them after we tested them. Good customer service.
For $ Best Bang for buck!

Go please and check those led lights ....
The #1 choice ....
The ones made and designed in North America .
The best bang for the buck .....
$1449 for 600W.


Here => http://www.mvphydroponics.com/

The the single cluster layout ...
The specs ...
Everything .....

Well ..Ok ?



Now go here => http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/New-product-Matrix-S600-smart-wifi_1848105578.html

No comments ,further ...



P.S.
FGS ..They've even kept the stickers from the original manufacturer ...

stickers new age.JPG

icons alibaba.JPG


I've tried in GEarth to find a city named "Shenzhen" ,anywhere in North America ...
Nope..Did not find it ...

How fuckin stupid ,those people,they think we are ?
All of them ..
Both Eastern and Western led sellers ...

They 've just gone crazy,totally out of any respect to our intelligence and common sense ...
In the name of profit ...

That's why ,I'll never cease to be a LED DIYer....
Because these days ...
Regarding led grow lights ....
It's actually very expensive to purchase a trully efficient led grow light from a commercial
manufacturer of brand company ...And the choices are pretty limited ,I should say ...

Other than that ...
What money can actually buy ..
Is either high quality parts ...
Or ...
Either double or triple re-branded piles of crap .

Whether some of you like it or not :

1) it's 100% true !
2) We're not all of us the ,'brain-zombies',that some think we are .

At least the market is free ..
And with lots of diversity ...
You can still be careful and buy the 600W crap ,with Wi-fi / bluetooth for just $400 and support the
rising eastern economic empires ...
Or ..
pay $1400 ,buy the same crap with no wifi / bt ,still
support the rising eastern economic empires ,along with couple of Western wise-guys ...

Or ...Start studying some electronics ...A bit more difficult than Lego or Puzzles ....
But ,nevertheless still doable ...

With $1400 budget ..
One can give the $400 ,take some electronics lessons ...
Get to know couple of things more ...(education,is called ? )
And spend the rest $1000 on his/her first TWO led light projects ...
(Creation & Recreation ,is called ? )

Choices ...Choices ...

Still one has to be 'awake' ,to make them ..
" Sleeping and dreaming " does not help,that much ...
Especially, if you are sleeping while standing or walking and
somebody else asks you to pay them, for the hotel-room provided ..

:fire:

Cheers!
:peace::bigjoint:
 
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zangtumtum

Well-Known Member
you are right SDS...In the name of profit....
products without any scientific justification and technical agglomerations very questionable ...
all coming from the same source and then rebranded, disguised, products that really make fun of people's intelligence ...only a few small exception ...
I've seen them all and have firsthand experience ... not worth anything and have no future ...
obviously steal money ....
massification of a certain part of the world,
is returning to the level of production exclusively junk,
killing the other economies and confidence in users.
 
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PSUAGRO.

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you are right SDS...In the name of profit....
products without any scientific justification and technical agglomerations very questionable ...
all coming from the same source and then rebranded, disguised, products that really make fun of people's intelligence ...only a few small exception ...
I've seen them all and have firsthand experience ... not worth anything and have no future ...
obviously steal money ....
Well said....................Can I ask what led panel is in your avatar?? or is it DIY??
 

zangtumtum

Well-Known Member
Well said....................Can I ask what led panel is in your avatar?? or is it DIY??
You are right PSUAGRO...it's one of my panel I design and I hope to introduce...it's the luxeon version...I drew one years ago...
passion is taking me to invest in my personal project in the light of these considerations and the overall economic situation, it is not easy, but I personally believe, I believe in the quality of the products of their materials their components that endure over time and not in their obsolescence, I believe in respect for people and their real needs by looking for a chemistry that really works without throwing money.
Aware of the speed in the evolution of technology, and particularly for "horti-cultural" lighting. My project starts from the bottom and without resources, thanks to your passion and technical skills,I alone do not have all your preparation, I hope to be able to reach the target. If I could, after more than a year since I read your arguments perceiving the passion and technical skills, I repeat, if I could invest and organize, I'd love to unite us all and create wonderful things.
Your projects, in my opionion,are excellent.
The rest of the market as we know it, is humiliating...
 
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CannaCole

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From another RIU LED thread ,I got to know about this :

http://mastergardenersinc.com/index.html

According to those people there .....
These are their #1 choise .....




Go please and check those led lights ....
The #1 choise ....
The ones made and designed in North America .
The best bang for the buck .....
$1449 for 600W.


Here => http://www.mvphydroponics.com/

The the single cluster layout ...
The specs ...
Everything .....

Well ..Ok ?



Now go here => http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/New-product-Matrix-S600-smart-wifi_1848105578.html

No comments ,further ...



P.S.
FGS ..They've even kept the stickers from the original manufacturer ...

View attachment 3170479

View attachment 3170480


I've tried in GEarth to find a city named "Shenzhen" ,anywhere in North America ...
Nope..Did not find it ...

How fuckin stupid ,those people,they think we are ?
All of them ..
Both Eastern and Western led sellers ...

They 've just gone crazy,totally out of any respect to our intelligence and common sense ...
In the name of profit ...

That's why ,I'll never cease to be a LED DIYer....
Because these days ...
Regarding led grow lights ....
It's actually very expensive to purchase a trully efficient led grow light from a commercial
manufacturer of brand company ...And the choices are pretty limited ,I should say ...

Other than that ...
What money can actually buy ..
Is either high quality parts ...
Or ...
Either double or triple re-branded piles of crap .

Whether some of you like it or not :

1) it's 100% true !
2) We're not all of us the ,'brain-zombies',that some think we are .

At least the market is free ..
And with lots of diversity ...
You can still be careful and buy the 600W crap ,with Wi-fi / bluetooth for just $400 and support the
rising eastern economic empires ...
Or ..
pay $1400 ,buy the same crap with no wifi / bt ,still
support the rising eastern economic empires ,along with couple of Western wise-guys ...

Or ...Start studying some electronics ...A bit more difficult than Lego or Puzzles ....
But ,nevertheless still doable ...

With $1400 budget ..
One can give the $400 ,take some electronics lessons ...
Get to know couple of things more ...(education,is called ? )
And spend the rest $1000 on his/her first TWO led light projects ...
(Creation & Recreation ,is called ? )

Choices ...Choices ...

Still one has to be 'awake' ,to make them ..
" Sleeping and dreaming " does not help,that much ...

Especially, if you are sleeping while standing or walking and
somebody else asks you to pay them, for the hotel-room provided ..

:fire:

Cheers!
:peace::bigjoint:
Just was quoted from the manufacturer of that exact light $410 for the S600 or $500 and change for the S900.

Looks legit for my price point. Definitely not for $1,500.
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
Just was quoted from the manufacturer of that exact light $410 for the S600 or $500 and change for the S900.

Looks legit for my price point. Definitely not for $1,500.
My latest DIY led fixture with 5x MeanWell PSUs ,4x Sunon MagLev Fans and 4x Cree CXA3070 Z4s'
has cost me about $500 -$600... Well ,itt does not have WIFI or 600W (? ) ,
but it has real time Tc monitoring ,a nice LCD screen ,awesome cooling ,
definitely higher quality parts used ,thermal array protection,overkill in EMI filtering,etc ...
And is built to last ....










If I had $400 budget ,I would have still had the ' basics ' same ( Cree,MeanWell,Sunon ) ,
along with the manual 350-2000mA CXA driving contol and the manual 12 speed fans control ,
but the microcontroller and all of it's automated functions would 've been missing ...
Still ,a fully operational 400W (at plug max power ) led grow light ...

" Full Spectrum "....:P

DIY rules !!!
Cheers.
:peace:
 
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CannaCole

Well-Known Member
My latest DIY led fixture with 5x MeanWell PSUs ,4x Sunon MagLev Fans and 4x Cree CXA3070 Z4s'
has cost me about $500 -$600... Well ,itt does not have WIFI or 600W (? ) ,
but it has real time Tc monitoring ,a nice LCD screen ,awesome cooling ,
definitely higher quality parts used ,thermal array protection,overkill in EMI filtering,etc ...
And is built to last ....










If I had $400 budget ,I would have still had the ' basics ' same ( Cree,MeanWell,Sunon ) ,
along with the manual 350-2000mA CXA driving contol and the manual 12 speed fans control ,
but the microcontroller and all of it's automated functions would 've been missing ...
Still ,a fully operational 400W (at plug max power ) led grow light ...

" Full Spectrum "....:P

DIY rules !!!
Cheers.
:peace:
Make me one!
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
Make me one!
Maybe soon ,you will be able to have one ..
Who knows ...
And way cheaper than $1400 ...

The 'west economy' (R&D ,manufacturing/producing ,marketing, selling,etc ) will soon come to realise about the hard "adaptations" (or choices,if you like ...) they'll have to make ,
in order to 'survive' or even 'resist' ./ 'fight back' ....

Either companies,brands will have to increase the quality of products and decrease the retail prices,at the same time ...
(With a direct negative impact on companies' final profits and " production mass/numbers "....)

Or be totally destroyed and extinct ,
by the low quality ,massively producted ,cheap ProductsOfShit offered ,
by the rising dragon ...

Choices.


Cheers...
 
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Cococola36

Well-Known Member
My latest DIY led fixture with 5x MeanWell PSUs ,4x Sunon MagLev Fans and 4x Cree CXA3070 Z4s'
has cost me about $500 -$600... Well ,itt does not have WIFI or 600W (? ) ,
but it has real time Tc monitoring ,a nice LCD screen ,awesome cooling ,
definitely higher quality parts used ,thermal array protection,overkill in EMI filtering,etc ...
And is built to last ....










If I had $400 budget ,I would have still had the ' basics ' same ( Cree,MeanWell,Sunon ) ,
along with the manual 350-2000mA CXA driving contol and the manual 12 speed fans control ,
but the microcontroller and all of it's automated functions would 've been missing ...
Still ,a fully operational 400W (at plug max power ) led grow light ...

" Full Spectrum "....:P

DIY rules !!!
Cheers.
:peace:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^what he said^^^^^^^^^^^^^ lol diy rules if you know how to build a panel like that! I'd buy 4 lol ;)
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^what he said^^^^^^^^^^^^^ lol diy rules if you know how to build a panel like that! I'd buy 4 lol ;)
Still,you can learn how to built one and have it actually built ,by yourself ,for under $1000..

The magic ingredients needed ?
Love,Will and Commitment for and to what you are about to create/ make ... .

All three of them ,priceless and actually you get them , free of charge ,if you actually wish so.

Start as simple as this :

" I want one of these ,myself .... "

Let the magic DIY journey begin ....

Even failures & mishappens ,are actually valuable "lessons "..(Experience ,is called ? )

Cheers.
:bigjoint:
 
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zangtumtum

Well-Known Member
My latest DIY led fixture with 5x MeanWell PSUs ,4x Sunon MagLev Fans and 4x Cree CXA3070 Z4s'
has cost me about $500 -$600... Well ,itt does not have WIFI or 600W (? ) ,
but it has real time Tc monitoring ,a nice LCD screen ,awesome cooling ,
definitely higher quality parts used ,thermal array protection,overkill in EMI filtering,etc ...
And is built to last ....




If I had $400 budget ,I would have still had the ' basics ' same ( Cree,MeanWell,Sunon ) ,
along with the manual 350-2000mA CXA driving contol and the manual 12 speed fans control ,
but the microcontroller and all of it's automated functions would 've been missing ...
Still ,a fully operational 400W (at plug max power ) led grow light ...

" Full Spectrum "....:P

DIY rules !!!
Cheers.
:peace:

my reference is just your latest solid work SDS, like other great DIY projects on RIU, whereas all the way done to date, your projects are icons,based on considerations, which at the commercial level, you can not find true answer, because the market logics are opposed. profit alone without science, design, quality,engineering, or intuition, experimentation, passion, real results, tested and proven effective.
Outside of our environment, excuse me if I post in your context but I also allow this, there is nothing high quality sound, the few exceptions we know the business well.
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
These are the schematics I'm starting with:
View attachment 3170571View attachment 3170572

Am I on the right track?
LOL..You're a crazy dude ....
:lol::lol::lol::lol:..
Even if you're on the right track ...
I'm afraid you won't be able to avoid a serious headache ...
Those schematics you're starting with ...
Are probably pretty ' heavy' to carry them around ,in your head ...

But for a start ,I guess ,they're fine ..LOL ...

And better shave ,before sticking that tape in your face skin ..
Unless ...

Ouch ...

It hurts just thinking of pulling that tape away ...

Cheers...
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
Even the longest journey starts with the smallest step......hehe
Mine has started some ~5 years ago ....
Trying to built my first LED grow light ...

Using a CV 12 VDC PSU and plenty of these ...
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and these...
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And I was really impressed when I was using ~50 Watts in total .....
And actually ,managed to grow a WhiteRussian plant and yield ...~40grms !!!!!
(0.8 gpw )

Until then ,I was growing with a 400W HPS ...
My best yield ever was ~280 grms ...
(0.7 gpw ) ...

Of course I sold eveything of my HID equipment and parafernalia ,the very next day ...
I needed ASAP 'funds' to support my new research and projects .
Risked ,everything ,by starting a journey to the 'unknown ' ...

Never really have regret it,for doing so ...
Never will.
That journey is endless.

Cheers.
:peace:
 

Rooster99

Well-Known Member
Mine has started some ~5 years ago ....
Trying to built my first LED grow light ...

Using a CV 12 VDC PSU and plenty of these ...
View attachment 3170597

and these...
View attachment 3170598

And I was really impressed when I was using ~50 Watts in total .....
And actually ,managed to grow a WhiteRussian plant and yield ...~40grms !!!!!
(0.8 gpw )

Until then ,I was growing with a 400W HPS ...
My best yield ever was ~280 grms ...
(0.7 gpw ) ...

Of course I sold eveything of my HID equipment and parafernalia ,the very next day ...
I needed ASAP 'funds' to support my new research and projects .
Risked ,everything ,by starting a journey to the 'unknown ' ...

Never really have regret it,for doing so ...
Never will.
That journey is endless.

Cheers.
:peace:
Your GPW was pretty impressive!! I imagine at the time that a larger panel to compete with a 400w hps would have been too expensive and hot at the time.

My journey started with the original KNNA thread many years ago. I built a 60w unit consisting of red/deep red/blue and NW. Used adhesive pads to stick the LEDs onto a large heatsink and threw a PC fan on top. Never got around to flowering with it due to circumstances, but it vegged like an absolute champ. It always seemed that LED was 'right around the corner' and that the next generation of emitters would be the holy grail we had been waiting for. It has been over 5 years since, and I think we are just getting to that point now with the CXA3070. I think we may be squeezing as much as we can out of this in terms of efficiency, but I think the next step will be making them cheaper (although the $/parW we are seeing now is many magnitudes better than in previous years so even the price has dropped dramatically). It really is almost a cliche at this point, but it would appear that it is a very exciting time for LED gardeners.
 
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stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
Your GPW was pretty impressive!! I imagine at the time that a larger panel to compete with a 400w hps would have been too expensive and hot at the time.

My journey started with the original KNNA thread many years ago. I built a 60w unit consisting of red/deep red/blue and NW. Used adhesive pads to stick the LEDs onto a large heatsink and threw a PC fan on top. Never got around to flowering with it due to circumstances, but it vegged like an absolute champ. It always seemed that LED was 'right around the corner' and that the next generation of emitters would be the holy grail we had been waiting for. It has been over 5 years since, and I think we are just getting to that point now with the CXA3070. I think we may be squeezing as much as we can out of this in terms of efficiency, but I think the next step will be making them cheaper (although the $/parW we are seeing now is many magnitudes better than in previous years so even the price has dropped dramatically). It really is almost a cliche at this point, but it would appear that it is a very exciting time for LED gardeners.

Oh yes!
That's for sure...

Brighter days are coming ,in this area of SSL ..
Yes!
 

FranJan

Well-Known Member
Sorry to be so Illumitex centric lately but they seem to be a very busy company. Got hit with an email this morning about their new "Quantum" line which is basically a tune-able strip light made for their
Controlled Environment Agriculture (CEA) line. Stock, it comes with Abeos running 660nm, 450 and 730 but can be customized. Each of these spectrums is individually dimmable and is really more for scientific research than the average grow tent but still interesting. Price? C'mon it's Illumitex so it's some where between Apache and Radiant :). And PSU? Illumitx is bragging that Penn State is using their stuff. So who do you know in the research dept. we can get really drunk one night ;)?




Details
  • Patented LED technology
  • Ultra-precision beam control
  • Edge-to-edge color uniformity
  • 4-channel Abeo™ LEDs
  • One channel of 450nm, two channels of 660nm and one channel of 730nm standard
  • 3 LEDs per foot
  • 4-channel, dynamic control with individual dimming per LED channel ranging from 0% to 100%
  • IP66 rated for wet and damp environments
  • Discrete 30″ power and communication cables with flying leads
  • Controls agnostic
  • Proprietary, integrated power supply — no external driver required
  • ETL/cETL safety listed & CE marking
  • RoHS compliant
  • 5-year warranty
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And it wouldn't be Illumitex without some whacky/contraversial/interesting stuff too. This is pretty interesting IMO.

http://www.illumitex.com/food-grown-led-lights-tastes-better-better/

Food Grown Under LED Lights Tastes Better and is Better For You

Illumitex NeoSol DS LED light on tomatoes​
Realizing that old-fashioned HID lights are eating up profits in energy costs, more and more produce growers are switching to energy-efficient LED lights.

And if cutting your energy bill in half weren’t incentive enough to switch to LED lights, here’s another reason: your crops will likely taste better and have higher nutritional content when grown under LED lights.

Plant growth and development is partially a result of how the plant responds to stimuli from the environment. Part of this interaction is facilitated by plant photosensor receptor proteins that are adapted to sense and relay information about the incident light spectrum. In the case of horticultural crops, light quantity, quality and duration inform the plant of conditions that ultimately contribute to plant productivity and produce quality.

Sensing the important ramifications (and commercial applications) of the flavor and nutritional benefits of LED light on plants, a number of researchers have conducted in-depth studies that demonstrate the benefits of proper dosage of LED light in specific wavelengths.

For example, a study conducted by Wageningen UR Greenhouse Horticulture studied several tomato varieties and various intensities of light. They found that certain varieties of tomatoes that receive extra light from LEDs contained up to twice as much vitamin C as the tomatoes not exposed to the LEDs.

Another study, published by Japanese researchers in 2012, demonstrated an increase in a particular antioxidant in mandarin oranges when plants were exposed to red (660nm) light.

In yet another study, scientists found that a pre-harvest LED light treatment was found to remarkably enhance antioxidant and nutritional properties of particular green vegetables due to the increased activity of the metabolic system for the protection from a mild photooxidative stress. Application of supplemental LED lighting to dill and parsley, for example, resulted in the accumulation of vitamin C and carbohydrates and in the enhancement of free radical binding activity and the activity of nitrate-reducing enzyme, according to this study from Vilnius University in Lithuania.

In a study from the University of Florida published in 2013, Thomas Colquhoun demonstrated that fruit volatile profiles of tomato, strawberry, and blueberry can be manipulated with specific light treatments. (Volatiles are the chemicals emitted by a piece fruit that allow you to smell and taste it. These compounds are really important in providing flavor to fruit and vegetables.)


The Florida researchers also found that post-harvest food stored under LED lights improves in appearance and flavor.

More work on the potential of LEDs to improve flavor and nutrition is ongoing, with a number studies in progress. But the evidence, even now, is strong enough to have convinced numerous growing operations around the world to switch to LED lights in their operations.

After all, what consumer can resist tomatoes that are packed with antioxidants and taste absolutely fantastic?
 
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