Layoffs coming...

Red1966

Red1966

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ChesusRice said:
What Walmart Doesn’t Say… Walmart’s health care plans fail to cover hundreds of thousands of associates. In 2009, Walmart claimed that 52% of associates were covered under their healthcare plan. The company has refused to disclose coverage rates for its 1.4 million U.S. employees since then.[4] Walmart stopped offering health insurance to part-time employees (working less than 24 hours per week) in 2012.[5] Taxpayers are forced to provide healthcare for Walmart’s Associates. Hundreds of thousands of Associates and their family members qualify for publicly funded health insurance.[6] Indeed,according to data compiled by Good Jobs First, in 21 of 23 states which have disclosedinformation, Walmart has the largest number of employees on the public rolls of any employer.[7] Recent Analysis:
  • Missouri: In early 2011, Walmart led all employers with 10,028 employees and their dependents enrolled in Missouri’s Medicaid program, known as MO HealthNet (MHN). Enrollees included 2,403 employees, 827 employee spouses, and 6,798 children of employees.[8]

  • Massachusetts: In FY09, Walmart led all employers with 10,171 employees and their dependents using publicly subsidized health care. Enrollees included 5,072 employees and 5,699 dependents.[9]

  • Connecticut: In 2011, Walmart topped the list of Medicaid employers. As of May 2011, 3,654 Medicaid enrollees in the state were either Walmart associates (1,189 recipients) or the children of associates (2,465 recipients).[10]
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Since Walmart is also probably the largest employers in those states, this is misleading at best.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Red1966 said:
Since Walmart is also probably the largest employers in those states, this is misleading at best.
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yap yap yap yap yap but no actual rebuttal or disproof.

you have a problem with facts that don't fit your white supremacist worldview.
 
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ChesusRice

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Red1966 said:
Since Walmart is also probably the largest employers in those states, this is misleading at best.
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Its the same story in every state they are in

To make matters worse, these abusive Walmart policies have increased employee reliance on government assistance and the need for a government funded social safety net. In fact, Walmart has become the number one driver behind the growing use of food stamps in the United States with "as many as 80 percent of workers in Wal-Mart stores using food stamps."
Wal-Mart's poverty wages force employees to rely on $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. In state after state, Wal-Mart employees are the top recipients of Medicaid. As many as 80 percent of workers in Wal-Mart stores use food stamps.​
Walmart's employees receive $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. They are also the top recipients of Medicaid in numerous states. Why does this occur? Walmart fails to provide a livable wage and decent healthcare benefits, costing U.S. taxpayers an annual average of $1.02 billion in healthcare costs. This direct public subsidy is being given to offset the failures of an international corporate giant who shouldn’t be shifting part of its labor costs onto the American taxpayers
 
nontheist

nontheist

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Fuck it let them all quit and work for Domino's you know they make the attorney median pay scale, well that what libtards claims anyway.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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nontheist said:
Fuck it let them all quit and work for Domino's you know they make the attorney median pay scale, well that what libtards claims anyway.
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actually, known republicans, conservatives, and libertarians have been sharing their personal experience with you about those pay rates.

your butthurt is epic.

still working those 112 hour work weeks, socky McJizzsock?

PS: work on proper english with any time off you may have.
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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nontheist said:
Fuck it let them all quit and work for Domino's you know they make the attorney median pay scale, well that what libtards claims anyway.
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No, lets tell just the government (because US companies dealing with China only here ch-ching) we don't want to lower our standards, or see a hospital get $12.00 for an aspirin. Thats where these bottom feeding corps should be spending the lobbying dollars on, lowering health cost, not hours and wages.
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Dr Kynes said:
vinyl siding suck donkey balls.

unless it's done flawlessly all you get is rot, drafts and chunks of the vinyl blowing off in the breeze, and its always the bits right under the eaves. plus for like 5 years, every summer your whole house will smell like new jersey landfill, or a smouldering dildo.
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How do you know what a smoldering dildo smells like? Wait - I think we already know.
 
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Carthoris

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ChesusRice said:
What Walmart Doesn’t Say…
Walmart’s health care plans fail to cover hundreds of thousands of associates. In 2009, Walmart claimed that 52% of associates were covered under their healthcare plan. The company has refused to disclose coverage rates for its 1.4 million U.S. employees since then.[4]
Walmart stopped offering health insurance to part-time employees (working less than 24 hours per week) in 2012.[5]
Taxpayers are forced to provide healthcare for Walmart’s Associates. Hundreds of thousands of Associates and their family members qualify for publicly funded health insurance.[6] Indeed,according to data compiled by Good Jobs First, in 21 of 23 states which have disclosedinformation, Walmart has the largest number of employees on the public rolls of any employer.[7]
Recent Analysis:

  • Missouri: In early 2011, Walmart led all employers with 10,028 employees and their dependents enrolled in Missouri’s Medicaid program, known as MO HealthNet (MHN). Enrollees included 2,403 employees, 827 employee spouses, and 6,798 children of employees.[8]

  • Massachusetts: In FY09, Walmart led all employers with 10,171 employees and their dependents using publicly subsidized health care. Enrollees included 5,072 employees and 5,699 dependents.[9]

  • Connecticut: In 2011, Walmart topped the list of Medicaid employers. As of May 2011, 3,654 Medicaid enrollees in the state were either Walmart associates (1,189 recipients) or the children of associates (2,465 recipients).[10]
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Those people use government insurance because it is free. The government wants them to use it or they wouldn't set it up that way. If they didn't have the option to get free insurance from the government, then what percent of them would get Wal-Mart insurance? The government (democrats in particular) set up the system to work exactly like it is. I fail to see how you can set up a system and then when it works properly and just how you designed it, point to it and say "See how much this costs, this is all Wal-Marts fault."

Let me give you a fictitious analog. If the government gave out free cars to people who made less than 25k a year, would those people buy cars other than what the government was giving out? No, they would all take the free car. Then people would go and say "Well, since x number of those who got the free car are Wal-Mart workers then Wal-Mart should pay more so they don't get free cars anymore." It sounds retarded when discussing cars, why would it sound any less retarded discussing anything else?
 
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Carthoris

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Grandpapy said:
So in your mind you could never see kids putting lights on a tree.

And just barely over the limit? :wall:
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Over the limit FOR KIDS TOYS that they chew on, play with daily for years, and the like. This is a fucking string of electrical lights - do you let your kids play with electrical wires? Althor made the point.
 
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Carthoris

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Red1966 said:
I have noticed those lead tags on every electronics purchase I have made recently, not just from Walmart.
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With the exception of some things that are made to be left plugged in (tvs and the like dont have to have tags, but still have lead) all items have those tags and all of them contain lead. Let's go with a shorter list: name things that don't contain lead.
 
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ChesusRice

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Carthoris said:
Those people use government insurance because it is free. The government wants them to use it or they wouldn't set it up that way. If they didn't have the option to get free insurance from the government, then what percent of them would get Wal-Mart insurance? The government (democrats in particular) set up the system to work exactly like it is. I fail to see how you can set up a system and then when it works properly and just how you designed it, point to it and say "See how much this costs, this is all Wal-Marts fault."

Let me give you a fictitious analog. If the government gave out free cars to people who made less than 25k a year, would those people buy cars other than what the government was giving out? No, they would all take the free car. Then people would go and say "Well, since x number of those who got the free car are Wal-Mart workers then Wal-Mart should pay more so they don't get free cars anymore." It sounds retarded when discussing cars, why would it sound any less retarded discussing anything else?
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Walmart has plan options with cheap premiums but high deductibles.
Walmart’s 2011 health care offerings include cheap premiums of $32.70 per pay period for family coverage – or $850.20 per year – however, this plan has a high annual deductible of $4,400. In addition, Walmart Associates covered by the health plan face a $10,000 out-of-pocket maximum. This is greater than the average of $7,096 for other plans of this type in 2010, the last year for which data is available.
High deductibles mean high costs for workers and their families.

  • For benefit year 2011, Walmart’s basic health insurance plan for families includes a $1,000 contribution from Walmart to a health reimbursement account (HRA), which can be used for eligible expenses but cannot be used for prescriptions.
  • After a family uses up the HRA, they would have to pay a total of $5,250.20 of their own money for the $4,400 annual deductible and ongoing $32.70 bi-weekly premium before Walmart’s insurance starts contributing anything toward healthcare costs again.
  • For a family whose only income comes from a Walmart Associate making the company’s self-reported full-time average wage of $11.75 an hour, this equals over 25% of their annual income.
  • If you consider the $10,000 out-of-pocket maximum in addition to the $850.20 annual premium, that same family could pay over 52% of their income in a year for healthcare.[SUP]1[/SUP]
Walmart’s health care plan failed to cover nearly 700,000 associates in 2010.
In 2010, Walmart’s health insurance covered only 54% of their Associates. Walmart has over 1.4 million US Associates.
Walmart has admitted that public assistance is a “better value.”
Despite over $12 billion in profits, former President and CEO Lee Scott admitted in 2005, “In some of our states, the public program may actually be a better value – with relatively high income limits to qualify, and low premiums.”
Taxpayers are forced to step in to cover Walmart’s Associates.
Tens of thousands of Associates qualify for Medicaid and other publicly subsidized care. Indeed, according to data compiled by Good Jobs First, in 21 of 23 states which have disclosed information, Walmart has the largest number of employees on the public rolls of any employer.
 
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Carthoris

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Grandpapy said:
I've been buying wire in bulk for 15 yrs from US suppliers with no need for such label.
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That is because those wires are not part of a finished product. Wires intended for usage inside of items, walls, and for commercial use are not required to have labels in the same way that consumer goods are.
 
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Carthoris

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ChesusRice said:
Walmart has plan options with cheap premiums but high deductibles.
Walmart’s 2011 health care offerings include cheap premiums of $32.70 per pay period for family coverage – or $850.20 per year – however, this plan has a high annual deductible of $4,400. In addition, Walmart Associates covered by the health plan face a $10,000 out-of-pocket maximum. This is greater than the average of $7,096 for other plans of this type in 2010, the last year for which data is available.
High deductibles mean high costs for workers and their families.

  • For benefit year 2011, Walmart’s basic health insurance plan for families includes a $1,000 contribution from Walmart to a health reimbursement account (HRA), which can be used for eligible expenses but cannot be used for prescriptions.
  • After a family uses up the HRA, they would have to pay a total of $5,250.20 of their own money for the $4,400 annual deductible and ongoing $32.70 bi-weekly premium before Walmart’s insurance starts contributing anything toward healthcare costs again.
  • For a family whose only income comes from a Walmart Associate making the company’s self-reported full-time average wage of $11.75 an hour, this equals over 25% of their annual income.
  • If you consider the $10,000 out-of-pocket maximum in addition to the $850.20 annual premium, that same family could pay over 52% of their income in a year for healthcare.[SUP]1[/SUP]
Walmart’s health care plan failed to cover nearly 700,000 associates in 2010.
In 2010, Walmart’s health insurance covered only 54% of their Associates. Walmart has over 1.4 million US Associates.
Walmart has admitted that public assistance is a “better value.”
Despite over $12 billion in profits, former President and CEO Lee Scott admitted in 2005, “In some of our states, the public program may actually be a better value – with relatively high income limits to qualify, and low premiums.”
Taxpayers are forced to step in to cover Walmart’s Associates.
Tens of thousands of Associates qualify for Medicaid and other publicly subsidized care. Indeed, according to data compiled by Good Jobs First, in 21 of 23 states which have disclosed information, Walmart has the largest number of employees on the public rolls of any employer.
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The deductible is 3,500 in 2013. However, there is a $1,000 health care account with the family plan that pays the first 1,000 without deductible or copay. As well as no deductible/copay for things like heart surgery and spine repair.

Lets try a new approach:

How much do you think people should make automatically?

How much do you think health insurance should cost?

Wal-Mart pays 66.6% of the premiums.
 
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ChesusRice

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Carthoris said:
The deductible is 3,500 in 2013. However, there is a $1,000 health care account with the family plan that pays the first 1,000 without deductible or copay. As well as no deductible/copay for things like heart surgery and spine repair.

Lets try a new approach:

How much do you think people should make automatically?

How much do you think health insurance should cost?

Wal-Mart pays 66.6% of the premiums.
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Let me put it this way myself

Why is it Wal Mart was considered a great place to work and now it is some new age sweat shop?
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Carthoris said:
Those people use government insurance because it is free. The government wants them to use it or they wouldn't set it up that way. If they didn't have the option to get free insurance from the government, then what percent of them would get Wal-Mart insurance? The government (democrats in particular) set up the system to work exactly like it is. I fail to see how you can set up a system and then when it works properly and just how you designed it, point to it and say "See how much this costs, this is all Wal-Marts fault."

Let me give you a fictitious analog. If the government gave out free cars to people who made less than 25k a year, would those people buy cars other than what the government was giving out? No, they would all take the free car. Then people would go and say "Well, since x number of those who got the free car are Wal-Mart workers then Wal-Mart should pay more so they don't get free cars anymore." It sounds retarded when discussing cars, why would it sound any less retarded discussing anything else?
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"May 2002 - President George W Bush shows unexpected support for the (food stamp/EBT) program by signing a law making significant expansions. The law, championed by the program's top official Eric Bost, restores the eligibility of many immigrants, raises benefits, and gives bonuses to the states that enroll the greatest number of eligible people".

Blows your frigging charge against the Democrats right out of your bathtub, duckie.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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walmart changed from a family run business with actual ties to it's employees to a multinational conglomerate run by cost-accountants who only see entries in a ledger, and the entries are either red (bad), or black (good).

this is the same thing we get with centralized washington government, out of touch mandarins making proclamations about every picayune detail of our lives with no concern for the "outcomes" as long as they deem the costs/benefit analysis to be "satisfactory".

but here in the USA the individual is supposed to be able to do shit for themselves, and not be slaves to an all-powerful government in distant washington.

bureaucratic heavy-handedness is as sure a road to serfdom as socialist revolution and stalinist rule ever was.
 
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