K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)
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K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
Thanks guys i really do appreciate the props, but im still tryin to make up my damn mind on what i wanna do, lol.
Fuckin this ScrOG thing is upsetting me a little bit. I went ahead n put the screen back on after a week n a half of having it off so i could weed out the males, resituate everything, and all that good shit, and then i put it back on last night, and the fuckin tops on ALOT of my girls were sitting 6" above the top of the netting. So i made a judgement call, and began pulling everything back under the screen, and beginning to ScrOG. I guess i just figured that since everything was going so well only a week and a half into flower, that the growth would just keep on comin at this same fast rate, and all the plants would adjust to the screen pretty well.
Only problem here is, the shit is CROWDED man. I dont know if i got enough room under there for the plants i got, lol. One one side i now have 9 plants in one 3x3 tray, and on the other side, i have a shit ton of clones that im not ScrOGging, plus one blueberry mom in the middle that i AM gonna scrog. So its gonna be kinda wierd, but i think ill be able to pull it off if i do it right. I think im just gonna have to cut back HARD some foliage, which is gonna hurt my feelings, lol, but i think ill be able to manage the budsites for this training sesh after theyve all lifted up thier heads to the light, and i can see which leaves are blocking which sites. After i check it out in the morning, ill make the call wether to take the screen off, and begin retraining them to grow vertically, or to begin clipping back all offensive foliage, and commence with scrogging.
On some serious shit though, if somebody has experience with a situation like this, or knows somebody who is a wizard under the screen, please direct them towards my novice ass, because while ive read god knows how much, this shit is enough to worry anybody, lol. the amount of bending ive had to do in the last 2 hours is rediculous. I even snapped one of my branches by accident, which luckily didnt snap all the way off, and is now splinted and hopefully will recover, but just having shit like that happen, really worries me about the rest of the grow. If i were to take the screen off now, id end up with a shitload of supercropped branches, which will probably lead to some big ass nuggets, but i'd rather see a completely full screen of varying strains man. If its doable, and ill end up with desired results and increased yield, then lemme know and ill continue with extreme prejiduce. If im running the risk of deminishing my yield, then lemme know, lol, and ill rip that fucker off my grow like there aint no tomorrow man.
Sorry for the panicked update, i seem to give alot of those lately, lol. Taking on such a big grow from 5 plants is a pain in the ass. But i guess if you never have problems you never learn anything...
Fuckin this ScrOG thing is upsetting me a little bit. I went ahead n put the screen back on after a week n a half of having it off so i could weed out the males, resituate everything, and all that good shit, and then i put it back on last night, and the fuckin tops on ALOT of my girls were sitting 6" above the top of the netting. So i made a judgement call, and began pulling everything back under the screen, and beginning to ScrOG. I guess i just figured that since everything was going so well only a week and a half into flower, that the growth would just keep on comin at this same fast rate, and all the plants would adjust to the screen pretty well.
Only problem here is, the shit is CROWDED man. I dont know if i got enough room under there for the plants i got, lol. One one side i now have 9 plants in one 3x3 tray, and on the other side, i have a shit ton of clones that im not ScrOGging, plus one blueberry mom in the middle that i AM gonna scrog. So its gonna be kinda wierd, but i think ill be able to pull it off if i do it right. I think im just gonna have to cut back HARD some foliage, which is gonna hurt my feelings, lol, but i think ill be able to manage the budsites for this training sesh after theyve all lifted up thier heads to the light, and i can see which leaves are blocking which sites. After i check it out in the morning, ill make the call wether to take the screen off, and begin retraining them to grow vertically, or to begin clipping back all offensive foliage, and commence with scrogging.
On some serious shit though, if somebody has experience with a situation like this, or knows somebody who is a wizard under the screen, please direct them towards my novice ass, because while ive read god knows how much, this shit is enough to worry anybody, lol. the amount of bending ive had to do in the last 2 hours is rediculous. I even snapped one of my branches by accident, which luckily didnt snap all the way off, and is now splinted and hopefully will recover, but just having shit like that happen, really worries me about the rest of the grow. If i were to take the screen off now, id end up with a shitload of supercropped branches, which will probably lead to some big ass nuggets, but i'd rather see a completely full screen of varying strains man. If its doable, and ill end up with desired results and increased yield, then lemme know and ill continue with extreme prejiduce. If im running the risk of deminishing my yield, then lemme know, lol, and ill rip that fucker off my grow like there aint no tomorrow man.
Sorry for the panicked update, i seem to give alot of those lately, lol. Taking on such a big grow from 5 plants is a pain in the ass. But i guess if you never have problems you never learn anything...
you been a busy boy
ur there, and ur doing fine. personally, i trust ur judgement
i like that you are giving different plants different conditions... i always try to have an experiment or two going on, or you never really know what's gonna work out best for the plants.
looks like you'll be smok'in perty for a long time to come. nice pics. and i envy all the varieties.
and i've seen it before... but that is still the World's Best Avatar
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GypsyBush
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Hey King, when is your next harvest?
Which ones will it be?
Shit is looking nice Bro!d
Best of luck with the screen... wish I could help, but I know NOTHING about them... sorry...
But I am sure a wizzard or two will come and help out...
I haven't seen him in a while but do you know JollyGreenGiant?
He has done some bitchin' SCROGS...
Well.. l8tr...
Which ones will it be?
Shit is looking nice Bro!d
Best of luck with the screen... wish I could help, but I know NOTHING about them... sorry...
But I am sure a wizzard or two will come and help out...
I haven't seen him in a while but do you know JollyGreenGiant?
He has done some bitchin' SCROGS...
Well.. l8tr...
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
Thanks Gambler, yeh that's pretty much the idea, to just have everything going with as much variety as i can, so i can learn how each seperate environment can grow a plant out and how well, Vs. how well I personally can grow a plant out, lol. Well that, and im pretty much using all the equipment i have at the moment, lol. As for the strains man, i fuckin bought a shit ton of seeds a few months back and it was either use them or have them go bad, cuz its kind of humid over here, and hard to properly store them (sorta). I have them in jars so no more air can get to them, but i would say that only about 70% of the seeds i tried to start actually germinated. So there's the variety, lol. If everything i started germed, i would probably only be growing like 2 or 3 strains right now
N Gyps,
My upstairs girls are about to begin wk 6 i think (gotta check my calendar again), tho it might be 5, this is why i write it down, lol. Theyre almost done anyways, lol, and the star is Sour P. You'll see what i mean in a week or two once i get some swellage. N yeh, i actually am about to msg Giant right now since you bring him up, lol i msg'd natmoon n bugs, but im not sure how much experience they have with Screens, only that theyre just experienced in general. Thanks for swingin by too man
Anyways, im bout to crash out. Talk to yall on the flip.
-K1
N Gyps,
My upstairs girls are about to begin wk 6 i think (gotta check my calendar again), tho it might be 5, this is why i write it down, lol. Theyre almost done anyways, lol, and the star is Sour P. You'll see what i mean in a week or two once i get some swellage. N yeh, i actually am about to msg Giant right now since you bring him up, lol i msg'd natmoon n bugs, but im not sure how much experience they have with Screens, only that theyre just experienced in general. Thanks for swingin by too man
Anyways, im bout to crash out. Talk to yall on the flip.
-K1
dankmango
Well-Known Member
I dont like scrog's cause I dont have the patience. I think thats the only key is patience. It also helps if you grow them a lot taller than is needed to move it to the next spot, so it has a little more bend than it really needs. If you try to move it to the next open spot as soon as you can it may fit in there, or you may be trying to get it to fit a little too much. just make sure you have a comfortable position so your back or legs or anything wont cramp up, n do it real slow. I cant do it though bro, Ill snap one on accident n get heated about it and it will mess with my ability to focus on that $hit. but if you grow them out taller before moving it it should have a nice skinny branch that moves well.
Thundercat
Well-Known Member
King I havn't done my SCROG yet, but I'd try to message Nonstopwhining, he has had some awesome scrogs, like 12 oz from one plant under a 600w light. He might be able to help, or even Someguy, he's done some sweet scrogs. Heres a link to someguys thread, I dont have one for NSW. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/192292-someguys-perpetual-parabolic-scrog-cabinet.html
My 2 cents on it bro, are that SCROGs are designed to increase yeild from less plants, with longer veg time. You've got plenty of plants, so I'd prolly leave the net up for support, but not worry about training them to it. I've read that having support for the plants helps them to not have to work as hard to support themselves, and inturn helps build bigger buds.
My 2 cents on it bro, are that SCROGs are designed to increase yeild from less plants, with longer veg time. You've got plenty of plants, so I'd prolly leave the net up for support, but not worry about training them to it. I've read that having support for the plants helps them to not have to work as hard to support themselves, and inturn helps build bigger buds.
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
Yeah that sounds about right man. I had nothing but really long, flexible, thin branches to work with with really nice node spacing on all the main stalks, so it was kinda hard to do it knowing that I wouldn't end up with those nice huge colas as an end result. I just hope that instead I end up with a shit ton of nuggggetts fillin up the screen way nicer than I woulda expected. But yeh now that I've had a little time
To think on it, I think I did the right thing too man. Besides, I'm still gonna end up with at least one nice big ass cola from the bunch, cuz of that one branch from my younger blueberry that I snapped. It snapped almost totally apart, but I didn't give it anytime to breath and form an air
Bubble in the stem, I tied that shit together immediately, and then
Zip tied it to make sure it stuck.
To think on it, I think I did the right thing too man. Besides, I'm still gonna end up with at least one nice big ass cola from the bunch, cuz of that one branch from my younger blueberry that I snapped. It snapped almost totally apart, but I didn't give it anytime to breath and form an air
Bubble in the stem, I tied that shit together immediately, and then
Zip tied it to make sure it stuck.
also, i think he stopped growing for the summer already... but OldFrog just had a nice journal going in which he used like 3 different screen heights or trellises on a pvc frame.
but you could also just use some cheap bamboo stakes as needed. i got some 25 packs (2') at the Dollar Tree for 1 dollar each.
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but you could also just use some cheap bamboo stakes as needed. i got some 25 packs (2') at the Dollar Tree for 1 dollar each.
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K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
Im totally good man. I cant believe i was worried to begin with over here. The screen is beginning to look fucking beautiful, and just to think of what it could turn into, is makin me one very happy fuckin grower
So, I figured out what was the deal with my Autos. 5 of them aint Autoflowering plants at all man. Dutch Passion must not have taken enough time to stabalize the strain, because these are regular plants, and if im right, theyre Power Plant. If they were Ruderalis Dominant, then they'd fuckin autoflower for me, lol, so i hope im assuming right here. If they ARE power plant, then im keeping them for mothers, and im gonna grow them out. Theyre already some nice sized bushes, perfect for starter moms, and confirmed females already, so i figure what the hell, and im just gonna keep veggin. The White Dwarves though, are most definitely autos, and are flowering nicely. Impressed with those. I also took one Taiga, and put it into the ScrOG mix, and is actually beginning to flower robustly, and quickly. fuckin awesome
-So im entering into the Clone without veg competition, started by Dewey Cox, it just looks like alot of fun and i have a shitload of clones i dont know what to do with yet, so im just gonna go ahead n enter. I mean, im going up against Bugsrnme n HBR, so it aint like i expect to win, lol, but hey, if i come close, ill be happy, and ill be able to roughly guage how much ive learned in the little time that ive been doin this.
Ill hook up an update sometime this week on the ScrOG..i wanna make sure i have everything under control before i unveil it. not becuase im so proud, lol, but rather because i wanna make sure it doesnt look like utter shit, hehe.
Pics of my cuts for the comp will be here tonight late late sometime
-K1.
So, I figured out what was the deal with my Autos. 5 of them aint Autoflowering plants at all man. Dutch Passion must not have taken enough time to stabalize the strain, because these are regular plants, and if im right, theyre Power Plant. If they were Ruderalis Dominant, then they'd fuckin autoflower for me, lol, so i hope im assuming right here. If they ARE power plant, then im keeping them for mothers, and im gonna grow them out. Theyre already some nice sized bushes, perfect for starter moms, and confirmed females already, so i figure what the hell, and im just gonna keep veggin. The White Dwarves though, are most definitely autos, and are flowering nicely. Impressed with those. I also took one Taiga, and put it into the ScrOG mix, and is actually beginning to flower robustly, and quickly. fuckin awesome
-So im entering into the Clone without veg competition, started by Dewey Cox, it just looks like alot of fun and i have a shitload of clones i dont know what to do with yet, so im just gonna go ahead n enter. I mean, im going up against Bugsrnme n HBR, so it aint like i expect to win, lol, but hey, if i come close, ill be happy, and ill be able to roughly guage how much ive learned in the little time that ive been doin this.
Ill hook up an update sometime this week on the ScrOG..i wanna make sure i have everything under control before i unveil it. not becuase im so proud, lol, but rather because i wanna make sure it doesnt look like utter shit, hehe.
Pics of my cuts for the comp will be here tonight late late sometime
-K1.
Thundercat
Well-Known Member
Sounds fun man, I considered entering, but I don't have time at this location to finish flowering out any more plants. I am about to chop my current clones down into many many more clones though. Thats my project for the day, turn 12 into about 50 I think.
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
Sounds like a plan dude. Chop them bitches down on into somethin massive, lol.
I got another dillemma of choice on my hands now though, lol.
Ive had some unexpected financial burdens come to bare recently, which are preventing me from being able to switch methods of growth right now - or should i say, after the upstairs run is harvested. Once theyre done, i can probably swing buying two more trays n set them bitches up, and then i can outfit another BRUTE container to fit 15 mother plants, and run the moms n clones side by side for now. From there id just be working the four tables for now, using nothing but hydroton inside the pots to hold the plants in place. Rockwool floc is all well n good, but its expensive and non-renewable. Is it a mistake to use only hydroton? i have a few plants going in just hydroton right now in my trays, and i dont really see any difference in growth, so any opinions on that would be awesome
So yeah, thats it. From the mother brute container, to the clone container, to tray a, b, c, & d. ill pulll out my panda film to accomadate two more trays, and set up my other 1000w in that bitch, along with my 465cfm fan n 3ft filter. n ill be set up for long term essentially, but truthfully its just gonna be a temporary fix until i can do what i want to do with my aero setup. Ive seen what aeroponics can do man, and there's just no comparison IMHO. its the way to grow, and sooner or later, the majority of growing is gonna be done with aeroponics man. Its just too damn easy. ANOTHER thing im gonna be changing is my nutrients, without a doubt. FF tints the color of the roots, and i really dont think its good for hydroponics at all, so i think ill still switch to Stinkbuds nutrient schedule.
Lemme just post up some rough pics of my trays that i took the other day. They look way different and more developed now, and the net over tray B is completely filled up - i dont think i have any more room to train my plants at all over there, lol. As you'll sort of be able to see, thhe only plant in tray A im ScrOGging, is the BB in there, which is doing beautifully. All of the other plants are clones, including a couple of weak ones that ive weeded out already and replaced with strong healthy clones that will yield big ass nuggets, lol. Natural Selection takes place in my garden, hehe.
I got another dillemma of choice on my hands now though, lol.
Ive had some unexpected financial burdens come to bare recently, which are preventing me from being able to switch methods of growth right now - or should i say, after the upstairs run is harvested. Once theyre done, i can probably swing buying two more trays n set them bitches up, and then i can outfit another BRUTE container to fit 15 mother plants, and run the moms n clones side by side for now. From there id just be working the four tables for now, using nothing but hydroton inside the pots to hold the plants in place. Rockwool floc is all well n good, but its expensive and non-renewable. Is it a mistake to use only hydroton? i have a few plants going in just hydroton right now in my trays, and i dont really see any difference in growth, so any opinions on that would be awesome
So yeah, thats it. From the mother brute container, to the clone container, to tray a, b, c, & d. ill pulll out my panda film to accomadate two more trays, and set up my other 1000w in that bitch, along with my 465cfm fan n 3ft filter. n ill be set up for long term essentially, but truthfully its just gonna be a temporary fix until i can do what i want to do with my aero setup. Ive seen what aeroponics can do man, and there's just no comparison IMHO. its the way to grow, and sooner or later, the majority of growing is gonna be done with aeroponics man. Its just too damn easy. ANOTHER thing im gonna be changing is my nutrients, without a doubt. FF tints the color of the roots, and i really dont think its good for hydroponics at all, so i think ill still switch to Stinkbuds nutrient schedule.
Lemme just post up some rough pics of my trays that i took the other day. They look way different and more developed now, and the net over tray B is completely filled up - i dont think i have any more room to train my plants at all over there, lol. As you'll sort of be able to see, thhe only plant in tray A im ScrOGging, is the BB in there, which is doing beautifully. All of the other plants are clones, including a couple of weak ones that ive weeded out already and replaced with strong healthy clones that will yield big ass nuggets, lol. Natural Selection takes place in my garden, hehe.
Thundercat
Well-Known Member
Well man, it sucks to hear about the financial burdens, I know the feeling. But your girls are looking real nice. Good and healthy, and are really filling up that screen nicely. I think that you'll be doing awesome with the aero cloner, and veg unit, and then right into flowering on the ebb and flow trays. Your gonna have a ton of bud bro! I still don't now if I'm gonna be able to afford the hydro set up I'd like to run, I might end up doing a run or 2 with a hempy bucket style grow. Pack these clones I'm taking into hempy buckets and stick them under my 1000w. We'll see though, its all about the money in the end. I'll catch ya latta bro, TC!
Oh ya I just posted up a bunch of pics yesterday if you make it by the journal. Peace!
Oh ya I just posted up a bunch of pics yesterday if you make it by the journal. Peace!
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
Gyps, in tray B it's one plant per square foot. In tray A there's just the one BB in the middle that I'm scrogging, and the rest are untopped clones. I'll put up some pics tonight and show you how different everything looks. I'm just about out of room, n I need to strip back some foliage to make sure light gets to everything. All in all though I think I'm gonna end up dramatically increasing what my yield was initially gonna be. I knew I was gonna get at least an elbow from this one but now with the amount of budsites that are growing, I can't say what I'll end up with.
TC, hempy buckets sound awesome man. I'm sure you've seen enough hempy grows to know what kind of results they're capable of, so rock that shit, lol
Gambler, eh? LOL
So like I said, pics tonight sometime.
I'm starting a new journal next week, because I've been asked to do a beta test run on three new OG Kush crosses that haven't been tested yet, n the deal was that I can grow them if I do a beta run journal here at RIU. Not sure yet as to the names of the strains, but I should have the beans by Monday at the latest, so I'll be sure to keep you posted. Elite Genetics gear has alot of good feedback, so I can't wait to try this shit out lol.
I'll be back in a bit guys n gals,
-K1.
TC, hempy buckets sound awesome man. I'm sure you've seen enough hempy grows to know what kind of results they're capable of, so rock that shit, lol
Gambler, eh? LOL
So like I said, pics tonight sometime.
I'm starting a new journal next week, because I've been asked to do a beta test run on three new OG Kush crosses that haven't been tested yet, n the deal was that I can grow them if I do a beta run journal here at RIU. Not sure yet as to the names of the strains, but I should have the beans by Monday at the latest, so I'll be sure to keep you posted. Elite Genetics gear has alot of good feedback, so I can't wait to try this shit out lol.
I'll be back in a bit guys n gals,
-K1.