K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)

Thundercat

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SOunds great King, your gonna have one hell of a nice mix of buds man!! Its gonna be sweet seeing all those different strains in flower!! When you run out of the brute containers, Stinkbud recommends the rough neck containers, says they seal real well.
 

growme12

Member
how do u tell if your plants are male or femmale im doing the 12/12 now to see if any thing changes if they seed or flower....reply back if u can i dont use this very often
 

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
oh wow it is rubbermaid.... ive had bad experiences whenever i did try hydro.. dam containers crack....

and if you cant decide what to grow... just mix the strains :) thats what im doing.. i have like 3-4 strains going in my mum room... gonna get some calodial silver next week.. Pe@ce..
Yeah, ive had a SHITLOAD of rubbermaid totes crack at the bottom on me too dude. Ive had to replace my reservoir 3 fuckin times now man, i know n feel your pain, lol. BUT, these totes here are made of a different material. Its more like hard rubbery plastic than it is thin, flimsy plastic with a manly rough name attached to it to make it sound sturdy, lol. I love these containers man, they fuckin rock my socks :D

- N ooOooOOOooOOo, Colloidal Silver, eh?? make sure u gimme an update, ive never seen it used before personally...

SOunds great King, your gonna have one hell of a nice mix of buds man!! Its gonna be sweet seeing all those different strains in flower!! When you run out of the brute containers, Stinkbud recommends the rough neck containers, says they seal real well.
Man, ive been reading Stink's article in last month's hightimes over n over again, n i think sometime soon i might try n construct his aeromachines, n do the lb/every three weeks thing. It was the main article, with well made instructions n illustrations in the how to portion, plus the article itself was badass. I now have a new respect for that dude, and am VERY surprised that ABF didnt have his moment in the sun after that. Must be because his method is so much like Mel Thomas' SOG method, ABF just takes out the 2 wks of vegging the clones after they take root.

Anyways, back to the post, lol, Yeah, roughnecks i can see working, as long as you dont drag them on the ground once theyre full of water. I completely agree with J h man, rubbermaid tubs really are easy to crack when theyre full, its a frustrating phenom. Thats why i chose the Brute tote, cuz i was looking for something different from the rest of the every day containers that are used. It just kept pissing me off that this happened with my larger rez, n i didnt wanna have the same bad luck with the cloner, like sell a bunch of them n then have shitloads of people writin me back feedback cuz they cant muster the strength to lift up an 18gal container with water in it, lol. But maybe the roughneck minis are tougher than the big tubs, who knows? ill probably give it a shot, considering theyre WAY fuckin cheaper than the Brute totes :D

- Actually , why dont you build one using the roughneck n lemme know how it goes? worst case scenario, your shit cracks, and i send u out a Brute tote for free cuz i told you to use the roughneck, lol

how do u tell if your plants are male or femmale im doing the 12/12 now to see if any thing changes if they seed or flower....reply back if u can i dont use this very often
Ummm, i dont have pics on hand brother, but ill tell you this much. If your growing from seed, its gonna be a while til you see sex showing, but when your plant DOES show sex, there'll be one of two things youll see:

1: FEMALE GENITALIA -- This is a SUPER SMALL water pitcher lookin thing that will come out at each internode (the part of the plant where the branch meets the main stem - kinda looks like a plant's crotch i guess, lol) . The pitcher will have two VERY fine, VERY small hairs shooting out of it. These are called PISTILS. This is a sure sign that you have yourself a female plant. Man, fuck it. Gimme a second n ill put up a pic....

-- Now, before i put this pic up for you, Let me just say, that ALOT of people confuse female parts with those two TEETH that come straight out of the stem. You will be able to see the pitcher clear as day, and the hairs coming straight out of them here. directly to the right of these female parts, you will be able to see the two teeth that i am referring to. The female reproductive parts are clearer though, having WHITE or almost CLEAR hairs coming out. Checkit:



NOW, for the
-MALE. Male plant reproductive organs are exactlly what you would think they would be. a Set of Balls, which would eventually grow to show a penis. This is also clear as day to see, as far as the difference between the male n female go. You shouldnt be able to mistake one for the other at all. At the beginning of 12/12 (flowering), you will be able to see two MINI balls coming out of the same place that it would on a female plant. These balls are gonna be super small at first, so you may need a jewelers loupe to see them. But eventually theyll be big enough to see with your eyes -- but i recommend taking the males out as soon as possible, because you dont want some freak accident happening, and have your plants pollenated. After that, its seedville, n unless your breeding for seeds, i'd imagine you want some straight up, seedless sensimillia, yes?
lol, heres a pic of a male plant's bits. Hold on...



- I know, i said at the beginning i wouldn't hook up pics, but to be honest, i really dont want anybody goin into this not knowing what to look for in a plant's sex. It would suck if i were that dude, n i just decided to say fuck it n grow out a plant until maturity n find out it was 100% MALE. So i hope that shit helped you out dude. If your already gone, then ill chalk this up to another useless thread about sexing a plant, lol, but if your still here bro, then im glad, n i hope your paying attention. Go read the FAQ's here on this website man, you'll learn ALOT about growing pot, and by the time your done with it, you'll know a SHIT TON more than you did goin in, and you'll even feel like your more "One with the plant", so to speak, lol.

Good luck with your grow bro. I wish you nothing but success :D
-heres another chart for you, just to kinda reinforce what i just said up there ^^ :









------ O YEAH, lol,
sorry i flaked n didnt snap off any pics last night man. I was busy as shit changeing out the bulbs n getting everything ready for flower. I dont know what ima do wiith my seedlings man, theyre pathetic lookin n to put them into flower this small has to be a crime or something. Im gonna take them out soon, n then top n train them, n maybe turn them into mother plants or somethin. I just cant do it, lol.

Pics tonight for sure man, just bare with me. Sorry bout that :D

-K1:shock:
 

Thundercat

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lol Nice novel as usual King!! I hear you on not takin pics, I've been meaning to all week, but havn't gotten around to it! I'm prolly not gonna make an aero cloner until I move, I don't think I'm gonna be able to come up with the money soon enough. My clones are almost getting big enough to take the first clones off of. I'm gonna wait till I can take all of them at once though. I want to have atleast 25-30 clones of my WW, and another 15-20 of my Kush. A few more weeks!! Well gotta go back to work. Peace man!! TC
 

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
man im EXTREMELY impressed with the way that Aeroponics works for my garden. Im making some drastic changes between right now, and 3-4 wks from now when i begin my first perpetual run. This should be interesting man, all im gonna say, is that StinkBud is a forward thinking typa dude, n he's really on to something with his lb/3wk setup. I think i just may borrow this setup, n add one unit, so i have a lb/2wks . We shall see though, i may just do it like his. At any rate, that aint too damn bad, thats for sure. I have 15 clones thatll be turned into mother plants, n ill also be able to do my Space Queen run on the side until i know the sex of the plant, n then ill incorporate her into the mix. Bah you'll see what i mean. Just wanted to let you guys know that 4 tables as opposed to 4 Aero Units, i think the Aero Units win..
 

Thundercat

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Just for the record, I've been saying this to you for like that past 9 months. Lol, but ya I know how cool I am, so thanks in advance. lol HA!!
 

420weedman

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hey k1ng, where did you get those misters from ... also the water pump, and how much $$ ?

i have access to a truck now so this week i hope i can begin construction on my new flower room under the basement stairs.... now im gonna go hydro eventually ..
but i have a few things i need to think about. i still want to be able to add plants to the room perpetual style .... im not sure if that can really be done with 1 tray... maybe a seperate container for each plant that gets hooked up to the system when i move it in there ....
 

Thundercat

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Weedman, I don't see any reason you couldn't just leave space for plants in the tray, and gradually add plants to it every couple weeks, then as you harvest just add more.
 

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
Just for the record, I've been saying this to you for like that past 9 months. Lol, but ya I know how cool I am, so thanks in advance. lol HA!!
Yeah motherfucker u did, lol. I shoulda listened too cuz if I did I'd already be deep into my perpetual run right now.
I decided that I'm gonna pick up a homebox XXL, n a clonebox, n put them with the tent I already have, n that'll be my setup. It's cleaner, I'll be able to tear down fast if I need to, n I'll get that good negative pressure in everything. So I'll pick up the two tents next month, along with a T5 light setup for my clones, n I'll be on my way. Use the 600 for my veg unit, n throw the two big dogs into the XXL n flower everything out. I'm loving this shit man. Found a good price on NON TOXIC tents, so it won't kill me to get that shit set up either. It'll be fun setting this shit up man :D

hey k1ng, where did you get those misters from ... also the water pump, and how much $$ ?

i have access to a truck now so this week i hope i can begin construction on my new flower room under the basement stairs.... now im gonna go hydro eventually ..
but i have a few things i need to think about. i still want to be able to add plants to the room perpetual style .... im not sure if that can really be done with 1 tray... maybe a seperate container for each plant that gets hooked up to the system when i move it in there ....
The pump I got from my local hydro shop for 24 bucks - www.hmoonhydro.com ... As for the sprayers I got them from bghydro for 50 cents a piece. I think I might try those green ones though for my aero flower n veg units- the threaded stem is a little bigger n would clog a little less easily I think.

Anyways man, well worth the cash for sure, n if your trying to set up perpetual hydro n take minimal space, I'd look into stink's diy machines too dude. They take up lterally like 1.5' x 4' each, n u can grow 14 plants per unit. That's an lb per unit easy, all u gotta do from there is stagger your units 3 wks apart n u got an lb every 3 wks. MSG me n I'll give u the specifcs if your interested.

---- so my modem fried on my wireless service, ski gotta wait til Friday for a replacement. Til then I'm iPhone bound again lol. But I still wanned to let you guys know about this shit.
SOUR P is by far the coolest strain I'm flowering upstairs man. Her buds are starting to fatten up, n her smell, is fucking unbelievable. She reeks like Fuckin lemonheads and some kind of estringent. But the lemonheads smell is crazy. I've never smelled bud like that before man, it doesn't smell like bud at all man. N it stays with you hardcore , I couldn't get the smell out of my nose lol. It's defnitely the sour diesel side coming out n shining. I can kind of smell something similar in my red D plant, but it's nowhere near as strong yet. I took a cutting from one of her lower branches to root up n make a mother, but then again I also germed another seed just in case lol- I WANNA KEEP THIS BITCH IN MY GARDEN lol. My first run on the perpetual setup is gonna be nothing but sour p man. That shit is beautiful.

So I'll be in here n there today n tomorrow, but I'll be back with pics on Friday.
Later guys :D
-K1
 

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
==Also just wanted to swing by really quick and let you guys know that i fuckin had 3 males pop up total in my garden. I moved my 10 autos out into my tent with my 600w n my cloner, under 18/6 light, cuz i heard 12/12 actually dramatically hurts an autoflowering plant's yield. So i set up the tent, moved the ten into the tent, and then checked my trays. Tray A is full of clones and femmed seeded plants, so no worried there, thats 20 females. But then on the other side, i found one Dutch Dragon male, one THe Black male, and one IcE male. So now im left with one of each, and ill be throwing my screen back on top of the grow in a day or two, as soon as shit resumed its normally scheduled programming.

Oh yeah, i guess i forgot to tell you bout this bullshit too, lol.
So i got my bud blanket in the mail from BG hydro with my sprayers when i built my cloner. I set up the blanket in my trays, and let shit go. From about 2 days after i put the blanket in , my plants started getting "The Claw", curling in slightly, but then curling DOWN dramatically. I had no clu;e what this could be, so i tried everything, without hurting the plants any further (epsoms, cutting back on waterings, ect..), because ifigured it either had to be some form of nute lockout, or i was over watering the plants. Turns out that the root blanket was so cheap, that it actually trapped about a gallon of water in each tray, on the bottom, along with alot of shitty sediment and nasty other shit from my nutrients. So for the last week n a half theyve been sitting in this neverending puddle of nasty shit, and obviously the roots havent had a chance to dry out and look for moisture, so theres been no growth, only a lightening of the budsites, and this leaf curl.

So i took out the blankets, and within 24 hours, there is improvement. So im assuming that in a couple of days, things will resume as scheduled, and go back to regular growth, in which case ill put the screen back up, since i have less plants to work with in Tray B, itll give me more room to tweak them bitches the fuck out, lol. Ive already stripped the bottom 1/3 of each plant down, did that shit like almost 2 wks ago, so with that taken care of, im ready to go, just waiting on this shit to be done with.

The Autos arent really flowering though man, im kinda wierded out by it. By Schedule, they should only have like 3 or 4 wks tops left in their cycle, but theres only a couple rogue pistils on each plant, that have been there for at least a week now. I dont understand what the hell im supposed to be doin here man. 18/6 is what they like best, so what the fuck am i doing wrong? im using bloom nutes, under my 600HPS cooltube, and im getting no love back from these ungrateful bitches. All i want is an oz per plant, and ill be happy -- these are supposed to be some of those new "super" autoflowering strains, that are getting closer and closer to regular plant yields, but if they dont get a fuckin move on, im just gonna end up with two sets of fuckin 4" long pistils on each plant to fuckin smoke, lol.
 

DaGambler

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K1Ng5p4d3;2521728The Autos arent really flowering though man said:
i only have a bit of experience with 'autos'... i had some that were 'full auto' and some that were mostly auto. but i found that veg. style lighting (more than 12/12) will cause the partially auto plants to veg. more... and it will cause the full auto's (when on 24 hours of light) to do -nothing at all-. My full auto's completely stopped growing vegatatively at some point... and they only started doing something again when i switched them to 12/12.

i tend to beleive that they generally need the same type of lighting as normal plants for optimal hormone production and flowering (12/12). I'd be curious about where you found information to the contrary. i had good yield from both the full and partial auto's on 12/12... yield comparable to the non-auto flowering plants.
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K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
hmm, lol, well i hope your right bro, i still have a Taiga in the Ebb tray, so i can see which works better between 18 or 12 hours of light, so half of me hopes your wrong, but part of me is starting to believe that your right, because the Taiga has begun the stretch and has more pistils than the autos in my tent. I cant remember if it did or not before i moved her, but i guess we'll see. Everything has flowered now though, and is looking awesome. Even the autos in the 18/6 are lookin bomb, but havent stretched much at all. Maybe i should take them out of the tent, and see what happens....


Update comin in 30 seconds....:D
 

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
Wuddup guys n Gals!! Sorry i took so long to get back to you guys with an update, my wireless modem didnt get replaced until today, so i had to push everything back a bit. BUT, i have a full update for you guys now, and i hope i dont disappoint.

So, ill begin with downstairs. My SOG/Ebb&Flow grow is doing much, much better than it was, after a small problem with cal def, everything has recovered, and is now finished with week 1 of flower. They've all just recently begun the stretch, so ill put the screen back on tonight. --i had to take the screen off, so i could re-arrange everything, after moving my Autoflowers into my growtent, and removing 3 males from the bunch. Everything else is confirmed female, so like i said, ill take the screen n put it back on tonight, and begin weaving everything into its own hole in the net.

Here is a shot of both Tray A and B together:


-As you can see, everything is getting healthier and healthier again, and i couldnt be happier. Tray A is comprised of all Blueberry, Yumboldt, and The Black clones, along with my Blueberry Bonzai Mamma that i decided to flower out, after i took a good 10 clones to pick a new mother that i wont let dwarf out. This one i ended up flowering, and then taking out of flower, and revegging, so i think it kinda stunted the plant's growth a bit. Shes nothin but budsites though, so by the time shes finished i should end up with nothing but buds on her.
-Here's a pic of my Blueberry Mamma:


-I actually didnt end up taking any more close-up shots of the trays, as my lights were about to go off in my other flower room, and i wanted to hurry up and grab some pics up there while i could.

Before we go up there though, here is a shot of my growtent, where i am temporarily keeping my clonebox, along with my autoflowering plants (Taiga and White Dwarf). As soon as i grab another tent, ill be able to put the cloner in its own area.


-The Autos are doing great. They just started flowering, after what i thought was friggin forever, lol, but everything is back on track now, and in a week or two, ill be able to come back and take some nice bud shots for you guys. Im keeping all off these on a 18/6 schedule, with the exception of one Taiga plant, which im flowering at 12/12, to get an idea of the actual difference in yield between the two light schedules.

SO, now on to the upstairs growroom. Once again, i have 7 plants up there, finished wk 5 of flowering, and looking pretty good. Im still waiting for them to swell up a bit more, but i know that'll come :D pretty happy with how these ladies are all doing considering the circumstances that i began flowering them in.
-here's a group shot of all of the ladies hangin out:

- i turned the HPS off so you could see the buds themselves :D

So, well start with the couple plants that went untopped. Here is a pic of Durban Poison. Shes doin pretty well, and is beginning to give off a musky type smell, almost spicy. Not a great deal of resin production so far, but we'll see how it goes:



-Here is my favorite untopped plant. Its Sputnik #1. She is friggin beautiful all in all, although i cant quite put my finger on what that smell is. Its danky for sure, but right now im still waiting for a stronger scent to push its way through for me to smell. But shes a runt, but she has a nice ass top, which is only gonna get fatter n fatter as the weeks go by :



-Northern Lights. She is taller than all three untopped ladies, and shes actually giving off a decent amount of bud, considering how small i was forced to flower her out. She was the smallest plant in the bunch when i switched to 12/12, and now shes one of the tallest. wierd how that works, isnt it? Im just glad shes not spindly and super poor yielding. So far shes matched the progression of all of the other plants, so no complaints here at all :D



Here is Strawberry blue. Unfortunately, she ended up being a little spindly, but is starting to catch up to the rest of the pack. I dont really know what to say about this one, other than i attempted to supercrop a few of the plants, in hopes that they would bulk up a bit for me, and so far there is improvement, but it hasn't been enough time since i did it to tell if its going to work or not.



NOW, on for my absolute favorite plant in the bunch. The Sour P. Man, she is filling out, budding up, and STANKIN somethin rediculous, lol. She has nice sized tops everywhere, but her smell is what stands out the most to me. It reeks of fuckin LemonHeads candy, and some type of Estringent. The candy smell is all you smell though until you walk away from the plant, and then you smell your hands, and that sour D smell just shines through, and it wont go away. Ive taken several post flowering cuttings from this plant once the smell shone through, and have stuck them in my cloner, because this is most definitely one plant that i am keeping in my arsenal. Seed form is gone at my residence, so hopefully i can keep this going for a long time. I know its easy to pick up some more seeds from Resin Seed Co., but i also dont wanna chance not getting the lemonheads pheno, lol. That shit is wicked, and i cant wait to smoke her ass :D




Sorry i couldnt take a close up of this one, but she is propping up Church, after supercropping them both yesterday. Red D is gonna end up being a high yielder for sure, and has beautiful Colas forming, and has that Fuely Chemdawg smell undertone to it, but its not quite shining through yet. Ill hook up some more pics of this one for sure in next weeks update, but for now im sorry, but this'll have to do:(on the right)



And finally, Church. She is growing as expected, filling out slowly but surely, except for one cola, which has been stunted due to supercropping unfortunately, lol. I bent her too far, and she came pretty close to dying, as you can see all of her leaves are drooping, but theyre coming back slowly but surely, and recovering, so hopefully once theyve fully recovered, the nugget will fatten up too. But ive never bent too far before, so i guess well see what happens i guess, lol:




=====So that about does it for this update guys. Sorry it took so damn long to get it to you, but everything is fixed now, so ill be back next week with another update, hopefully with some better macros. Til then, i hope you enjoyed lookin as much as i enjoy growin :D

Many Thanks,

-K1.
 

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
*** I think i confused my Northern with my Strawberry blue, just lettin you know.

Also, I put cuttingd from Sour P into my Cloner last week, and 3 of the four i have in the cloner have already rooted nicely, and the other 4 that i have in rockwool blocks arent doin a damn thing, lol. Im gonna take everything n put it into the cloner tomorrow man. That shit is awesome, n im gonna end up with too many mother plants by the time im ready to do my next run, lol.

POST 2,200!!! WoOt!

-lol, K1.
 

K1Ng5p4d3

Junior Creatologist
Thanks guys, theyre gettin there, lol.

I cant wait to see what the ebb/flow trays turn out for me though man. They were lookin pretty meager last week, and then i fixed a little heat problem and cal def that i was having, and now theyve bounced right back man. I had three males though, which fuckin sucks - Dutch Dragon, The Black, and Ice all had males, but i still have one female of each strain, so no biggey.

Anyways, im off to go hook my screen back up n get down to weaving. Thanks for takin a look, n ill probably snap off somethin new for you guys whenever i finish up eeither tonight or tomorrow :D
 

Thundercat

Well-Known Member
Awesome update bro, those girls are looking great man!!! That sour P. does look like some dank shit man like you were tellin me. Very nice !!
 
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