January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

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Jan. 6 rioter dubbed 'Florida Flag Jacket' handed longest sentence yet
The Department of Justice (DOJ) said in October that Robert Scott Palmer of Largo, Fla., was part of the crowd of rioters on Jan. 6 and threw a wooden plank at U.S. Capitol Police officers as well as at D.C. Metropolitan officers. Palmer was dubbed #FloridaFlagJacket by online sleuths investigating the Capitol attack, per HuffPost.

Palmer pleaded guilty to assaulting law enforcement officers with a dangerous weapon, and his original plea agreement called for a sentencing range of 46 to 57 months.

However, after pleading guilty, the prosecutors said Palmer attempted to lie in an online fundraising and said he did "go on the defense and throw a fire extinguisher at the police" after being shot with rubber bullets and tear gas, per the Post.

The U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan agreed with the prosecution that his lie implied a failure to accept responsibility for his actions, and imposed a 63-month sentence, the report added.
In a letter to Chutkan ahead of his sentencing, Palmer claimed that he recognized that "Trump supporters were lied to" by former President Trump and people acting on his behalf.
Palmer told Chutkan in court on Friday he was “really, really ashamed of what I did” and that he would “never, ever, ever” go to a political rally again, according to the Huffington Post.
The DOJ said in October that Palmer was at "the front line of rioters confronting the officers."

No injuries were tied to Palmer's conduct, but the DOJ added that the size and weight of the objects he threw made them capable of "inflicting serious bodily injury."
 

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Jan 6 investigators believe Nov. 4 text pushing 'strategy' to undermine election came from Perry

Members of the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol believe that former Texas Governor and Trump Energy Secretary Rick Perry was the author of a text message sent to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows the day after the 2020 election pushing an "AGRESSIVE (sic) STRATEGY" for three state legislatures to ignore the will of their voters and deliver their states' electors to Donald Trump, three sources familiar with the House Committee investigation tell CNN. A spokesman for Perry told CNN that the former Energy Secretary denies being the author of the text. Multiple people who know Rick Perry confirmed to CNN that the phone number the committee has associated with that text message is Perry's number.
 

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Jan 6 investigators believe Nov. 4 text pushing 'strategy' to undermine election came from Perry

Members of the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol believe that former Texas Governor and Trump Energy Secretary Rick Perry was the author of a text message sent to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows the day after the 2020 election pushing an "AGRESSIVE (sic) STRATEGY" for three state legislatures to ignore the will of their voters and deliver their states' electors to Donald Trump, three sources familiar with the House Committee investigation tell CNN. A spokesman for Perry told CNN that the former Energy Secretary denies being the author of the text. Multiple people who know Rick Perry confirmed to CNN that the phone number the committee has associated with that text message is Perry's number.
Russian oil here for the taking!

What could go wrong with a 500 Billion dollar Deal?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I doubt Perry was the original author, he's dumb as a stump and I don't think he's up to the task of writing a document. He sent it, but I don't think he dreamed it up, probably too stupid to realize what he did or the implications.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Right about now the FBI should be getting warrants and seizing the cellphones and computers of all involved, it should have happened long ago.
 

CatHedral

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sure..why not? so disgusted with these people.


why would you plead the fifth and instead, just say i don't know?..could it be that he really knows which is why he plead the fifth?

he's a lying sack of shit who looks like the Penguin. Jim Jordan is the Riddler.
Manchin is Two Face
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Roger Stone Pleads the 5th Before Congress. Should Congress Immunize Stone & Force Him to Testify?

Roger Stone appeared before the House select committee investigating the attack on the US Capitol to testify. But rather than testify, Roger Stone pled the 5th - he invoked his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination - and refused to testify.

The question will now turn to the topic of immunity: should Congress immunize to Stone and force him to testify. Recall that Stone was convicted previously (and ultimately pardoned by Donald Trump) for lying to Congress when he testified in the Trump-Russia investigation. That is but one of the factors that will need to be considered as Congress decides whether or not to grant Stone immunity and compel his testimony.

This video discusses the considerations that go into the question of whether immunity should be granted.
 

canndo

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We now suffer from the shear volume of infractions and insults to democracy. This is a gish gallop of incidents and actions sourced to Republicans from all levels. Texts, meetings, phone calls, power points, civil actions, investigations on the state, local and federal levels, depositions, judicial delays, any one of which, if shown to be errant will sink all the others.

The common voter has no chance of assembling this barrage of information into a form that might actually influence his outlook or conclusion.

Trump and his people have a penchant and talent for muddying the water and they are even now capitalizing on it.
 

canndo

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Appeals Court Denies Trump's Bid To Withhold Documents From January 6 Committee

A federal appeals court on Thursday rejected former president Trump’s bid to keep White House documents secret from the committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

MSNBC's Heilemann says it's all over for Trump after appeals court loss
The presumption is that there is a clear and obvious "smoking gun" within those documents.

Mr trump sees obfuscation and delay as a matter of course. That means he would hide his get well cards were they to be requested. I'm not so sure the documents produced by a guy who doesn't do documents will have our wished for effect.
 

CunningCanuk

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Roger Stone Pleads the 5th Before Congress. Should Congress Immunize Stone & Force Him to Testify?

Roger Stone appeared before the House select committee investigating the attack on the US Capitol to testify. But rather than testify, Roger Stone pled the 5th - he invoked his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination - and refused to testify.

The question will now turn to the topic of immunity: should Congress immunize to Stone and force him to testify. Recall that Stone was convicted previously (and ultimately pardoned by Donald Trump) for lying to Congress when he testified in the Trump-Russia investigation. That is but one of the factors that will need to be considered as Congress decides whether or not to grant Stone immunity and compel his testimony.

This video discusses the considerations that go into the question of whether immunity should be granted.
Meadows would be a worthy candidate for immunity. It looks like he was at the centre of the coup attempt so he could bring everyone down.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Meadows would be a worthy candidate for immunity. It looks like he was at the centre of the coup attempt so he could bring everyone down.
Yep all the strings lead to Meadows, Trump's gate keeper and prick, but Donald's prick just got caught in the meat grinder. I figure he will roll over for a deal eventually, when he's looking at time. Congress can grant immunity to him, but he better make it worth it and hand over Donald's head on a silver platter. The DOJ & FBI should have been getting warrants, seizing computers and phones while wiring the bunch of them for sound, they have cause for the warrant, but perhaps not the need. It's starting to unravel pretty quickly, the wanted to give the public a preview before the holidays, something to stimulate discussion in the country over the holidays. I will also make many of Trump's henchmen and minions think about the prospects for the new year. They've got them by the balls, mostly through their own sloppiness and stupidity, even Mitch is "interested", cause they are all his political enemies in the GOP.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I have to question why the about-face over testifying. It's almost like his family may have been threatened.
He's an idiot, 6000 documents and 2000 texts, one thing will lead to another, one phone to another and it's contents, he fucked himself and everybody else. This will most likely bring in the DOJ and FBI, who've been sitting on the sidelines, there's plenty of probable cause here and work for them to do.
 

HGCC

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I doubt Perry was the original author, he's dumb as a stump and I don't think he's up to the task of writing a document. He sent it, but I don't think he dreamed it up, probably too stupid to realize what he did or the implications.
I'm really pretty shocked. That's just freaking crazy.

The Republicans rejected him for being dumb in 2012. Oh how the world changed in 10 years.
 

schuylaar

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I doubt Perry was the original author, he's dumb as a stump and I don't think he's up to the task of writing a document. He sent it, but I don't think he dreamed it up, probably too stupid to realize what he did or the implications.
most people have a lock on their phone. i believe he was capable. + there was at least one misspelling and he loves Canadian so he's a 'sunny beams' kinda guy.

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schuylaar

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Right about now the FBI should be getting warrants and seizing the cellphones and computers of all involved, it should have happened long ago.
The Capitol does have it's own network; it's a lot to go through- there's no time limit on this.

Rightie Moms are still calling their boys in and FBI is still rounding them up.

Dear Rightie Moms- There is still reward for successful capture and prosecution of any Insurrectionist on January 6th.

hell i saw one pic spitting image of my ex-husband in the Rotunda but I won't make the call unless i'm sure..or will I? you should've seen how berserk he went when my daughter had eye surgery so she went to school with a black eye; teacher reported; FLDHS showed; fun ensued. cops don't like to be questioned; they want to be the ones who question.
 
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